YoloinOhio Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 Usually you try to find a way to keep good humans around. My wife is a marathon runner and, while watching her, I saw liburd and his co-runner together at the buffalo marathon. I think liburd did something similar at a 5k in orchard park. I was very impressed by and equally touched by his generosity of spirit. what he did was very kind but I don't understand this point at all. My company lays off "good humans" all the time as business decisions, restructures, management changes, etc. This is a multi billion dollar organization we are talking about. Finding a way to keep good humans around really isn't contributing to the objective of the organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 What would a team chaplain have to do to get fired? I'll point it out again: God hates this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 What would a team chaplain have to do to get fired? He probably diddled one too many kids, so now they have to 'relocate' him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Apparently the leaks were going out through the confessional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 they need to get better trainers as well. Strength and conditioning and medical staff goes hand in hand in making sure players get the proper training to PREVENT INJURIES. stupid Hammy injuries are just stupid and easily fixable with proper training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) what he did was very kind but I don't understand this point at all. My company lays off "good humans" all the time as business decisions, restructures, management changes, etc. This is a multi billion dollar organization we are talking about. Finding a way to keep good humans around really isn't contributing to the objective of the organization. Like everything else in life balance is important. Read the NYT article on the Amazon workplace. Sometimes you have to find a way to keep a couple of good people around at the expense of metrics, bottom line, etc. if liburd was incompetent or failing at his job, then there is no room to argue against your viewpoint. But if he isn't or wasn't, then maybe this is the type of situation where someone makes a compromise to keep liburd around in one capacity or another. Even berchtold kept a title. Edited March 31, 2017 by SectionC3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I'm not the type that usually likes to see anyone lose their jobs, but I am all for whatever changes McDermott wants to make. Some of these guys were Ralph Wilson era Bills lifers - Berchtold. McMillen (21 years). Lancaster (16yrs). We are not in the building. We have no idea how these people play into the culture there. If our coach felt a change is needed, I support it. I am all for getting rid of Ralph Wilson lifers anyway... Some of these guys have lasted through multiple coaches and general managers. I find it very hard to believe that none of those coaches/GMs wanted to get rid of any of them and/or bring in their own people. So if we finally have a coach who can help bring some real change to OBD, I am all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I'm not the type that usually likes to see anyone lose their jobs, but I am all for whatever changes McDermott wants to make. Some of these guys were Ralph Wilson era Bills lifers - Berchtold. McMillen (21 years). Lancaster (16yrs). We are not in the building. We have no idea how these people play into the culture there. If our coach felt a change is needed, I support it. I am all for getting rid of Ralph Wilson lifers anyway... Some of these guys have lasted through multiple coaches and general managers. I find it very hard to believe that none of those coaches/GMs wanted to get rid of any of them and/or bring in their own people. So if we finally have a coach who can help bring some real change to OBD, I am all for it. Very fair points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Need more MMA nutritionists in here. Heard Dan put too much cheese in the omeletes. That would explain all the injuries the past couple years. I LOVE what McDermott is doing so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 lol "chaplain." I hate that the NFL is so obviously Christian in just about every way. What does religion have to do with football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 All I know is I've never been very impressed by our conditioning staff...tons of players on IR every year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 Like everything else in life balance is important. Read the NYT article on the Amazon workplace. Sometimes you have to find a way to keep a couple of good people around at the expense of metrics, bottom line, etc. if liburd was incompetent or failing at his job, then there is no room to argue against your viewpoint. But if he isn't or wasn't, then maybe this is the type of situation where someone makes a compromise to keep liburd around in one capacity or another. Even berchtold kept a title.sure... I'm assuming that they felt there could be improvement at his position, and if that's the case they shouldn't be held back from making that change simply because he's a "good human". I'm not the type that usually likes to see anyone lose their jobs, but I am all for whatever changes McDermott wants to make. Some of these guys were Ralph Wilson era Bills lifers - Berchtold. McMillen (21 years). Lancaster (16yrs). We are not in the building. We have no idea how these people play into the culture there. If our coach felt a change is needed, I support it. I am all for getting rid of Ralph Wilson lifers anyway... Some of these guys have lasted through multiple coaches and general managers. I find it very hard to believe that none of those coaches/GMs wanted to get rid of any of them and/or bring in their own people. So if we finally have a coach who can help bring some real change to OBD, I am all for it. as I recall, it was reported that Marrone wanted to make changes to the S&C staff but he didn't have the power over that at the time, it went through the GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 What would a team chaplain have to do to get fired? lol you don't remember him telling Tex not to challenge the Hogan catch against the Chiefs when the replay showed Hogan caught the ball? Just once I'd like for a football player to blame Jesus for losing the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Firing the team chaplain seems like bad mojo to me. The trainer and strength/conditioning coach seemed overdue. totally agree. What did the Team Chaplin do to deserve getting canned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 lol you don't remember him telling Tex not to challenge the Hogan catch against the Chiefs when the replay showed Hogan caught the ball? Just once I'd like for a football player to blame Jesus for losing the game. I think Stevie Johnson did after the Pittsburgh drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 lol you don't remember him telling Tex not to challenge the Hogan catch against the Chiefs when the replay showed Hogan caught the ball? Just once I'd like for a football player to blame Jesus for losing the game. The Chaplin told Rex not to challenge a call? Odd. Oh, and remember SJ after he dropped the game winning TD vs. Steelers several years ago?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 lol you don't remember him telling Tex not to challenge the Hogan catch against the Chiefs when the replay showed Hogan caught the ball? Just once I'd like for a football player to blame Jesus for losing the game. Have you ever heard of a player named Stevie Johnson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) totally agree. What did the Team Chaplin do to deserve getting canned? he was a Rex guy. For those who don't remember ... http://www.barstoolsports.com/boston/yesterday-was-a-bad-day-but-at-least-our-coach-doesnt-take-football-advice-from-the-team-chaplain/?utm_campaign=BarstoolSports&utm_source=BarstoolTw&utm_medium=Socialflow Edited March 31, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I think Stevie Johnson did after the Pittsburgh drop. Oh my gosh how could I forget that?? If aliens from outer space ever ask me to describe the Bills in one play/sequence - it would be that. lol "How you do me like that?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 lol "chaplain." I hate that the NFL is so obviously Christian in just about every way. What does religion have to do with football? NFL and Christian do not seem synonymous to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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