FireChan Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Eh, I could name others (Terrell Davis, Marques Coleston, etc.), but probably better to pick the best late round draft pick of all time. The point is....Although unlikely...It happens. And will continue to happen, regardless of the position. Again, for every single one of those guys, hundreds of nobodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 18, 2017 Author Share Posted March 18, 2017 You are probably the same guy from BBMB that talked about "sleepers" at WR for the Bills last season. I assure you our WR core is one of the worst in the league and there are no sleepers on this roster, just like I said last season when you and others said we didnt need a WR. Well I never said we dont need to upgrade this year And I never said it last year Listenbee can be a productive field stretcher... I never said he would be a #2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Last year, we began the offseason with so many WRs that I thought somebody - just one of them - would emerge as a legit #3 behind Sammy and Woods. And I was wrong. This year I expect nothing and will be pleasantly surprised if Listenbee, Holmes, or someone else steps up and does better than expected. I was thinking the same thing about last year's group of vet WRs. Salas did OK before his injury but what were the chances that none of the others panned out? I'm also not sure that Holmes is any different from last year's bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToTasker Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Again, for every single one of those guys, hundreds of nobodies. Nobody is disputing that. The first round, as reflected in an article pulled from NBC sports 2016, only has a 56% chance of picking day 1 starters. The draft is full of unknowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 I'm going with TE Logan Thomas also, he doesn't have to make a hard transition since he already played at a high level at TE, which is why he was recruited so high at the position. Ithink he can resurrect his career by making the switch, another reason I don't see them taking O.J. Howard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGBillsFan Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 They're all sleepers besides Sammy, I just hope someone wakes up this year. Exactly....can one of the sleepers step up and be a realistic options as a WR #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 And it's not Dez Lewis who disappears every year when the pads come on It is our redshirt rookie speedster Kolby Listenbee out of TCU He has already boasted that he is THE FASTEST PLAYER in the NFL And ran a 4.39 40 with A DOUBLE SPORTS HERNIA He is a natural hands catcher of the football, and is good at tracking the deep ball He has good size 6' 190 LBs with room to grow And his route running improved substantially over his time at TCU This kid has GAS speed and would have been a 4th round pick if not for his surgery With TT's deep ball and a threat like Sammy on the outside... I can see the bills taking advantage of 1 on 1 situations on the outside with Listenbee when the situation presents itself This kid can be a weapon https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DZD-vX71On44&ved=0ahUKEwizx4HI5eDSAhWC5oMKHcbICvgQt9IBCGwwFA&usg=AFQjCNH7Bl89yCtxm48M5acKWf4V5AD5aw how much more growth can we expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 19, 2017 Author Share Posted March 19, 2017 how much more growth can we expect? I think he could add 10LBs and be solid at 6' 200 I thinks it's doable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Listenbee has a chance to turn into something IMO. Some say he might have gone in the 3rd had he not been injured. I think that may be a stretch but he would have gone higher. Some say he is a body catcher. I disagree. He can and does use his hands. Tracks the ball very well. He is a burner with a sturdy physique. Concern for me is a non-existent route tree, not sure if he can be quick enuf out of his breaks and I wonder why he does not get better separation on go routes with his wheels. Could be a function of his limited routes and opposition putting their fastest corner on him. Not really banking on him but I think he has a chance to contribute. Hope so. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Hah. TJ Graham's senior year: 46 rec for 757 yards, 7 TD's Listenbee's best year: 41 rec for 753, 5 TD's Not to mention TJ had another 1000 yards returning. TJ Graham..... I know that name from somewhere.....We should give him a chance here! They're all sleepers besides Sammy, I just hope someone wakes up this year. Yes they were all sleeping while Sammy was limping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardb1952 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Listenbee has a chance to turn into something IMO. Some say he might have gone in the 3rd had he not been injured. I think that may be a stretch but he would have gone higher. Some say he is a body catcher. I disagree. He can and does use his hands. Tracks the ball very well. He is a burner with a sturdy physique. Concern for me is a non-existent route tree, not sure if he can be quick enuf out of his breaks and I wonder why he does not get better separation on go routes with his wheels. Could be a function of his limited routes and opposition putting their fastest corner on him. Not really banking on him but I think he has a chance to contribute. Hope so. Time will tell. The video seemed to indicate that he was under thrown to a lot. Nice that he still made catches though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 The video seemed to indicate that he was under thrown to a lot. Nice that he still made catches though. Agree. Also its normal and prudent to basket with your forearms a bit to catch a ball thrown over your head or shoulders. Doesnt mean he cant or doesnt use his hands. To the contrary he looks like he might have strong hands when competing for balls. Wonder how quick he is off the line (straightline speed not a problem obviously) and how he deals with the press. Lots of questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Hah. TJ Graham's senior year: 46 rec for 757 yards, 7 TD's Listenbee's best year: 41 rec for 753, 5 TD's Not to mention TJ had another 1000 yards returning. Graham was a protected late round pick/UDFA who the Bills took in the 3rd round. Listenbee was a protected 4th/5th round pick who slid because of his injury and because teams knew he probably wouldn't contribute last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 You can't count on late round picks, but you'd expect a few to come through. Our track record has not been good the last decade. We certainly could use some help this year! I would love to see Dez Lewis or Listenbee step up. If not, what is Namaan Roosevelt up to? On a parallel track, do you think Marcus Easley will get picked anywhere? He was one of our top special teams players, a very talented gunner on kick coverages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 These stories make me puke. Listenup never made it on the field last year and he is the savior? Logan has never played the position and he is the next great TE because he is big and fast? Get real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 19, 2017 Author Share Posted March 19, 2017 (edited) You can't count on late round picks, but you'd expect a few to come through. Our track record has not been good the last decade. We certainly could use some help this year! I would love to see Dez Lewis or Listenbee step up. If not, what is Namaan Roosevelt up to? On a parallel track, do you think Marcus Easley will get picked anywhere? He was one of our top special teams players, a very talented gunner on kick coverages. It's gonna be tough for Easley He is a special teams ace Which is vital and there is a spot on teams for guys like him But they are usually on a teams roster as a late round pick or UDFA and usually don't make it past 2 contract's Easley is worth a bit more than what a team will pay for a 6th wideout and ST guy These stories make me puke. Listenup never made it on the field last year and he is the savior? Logan has never played the position and he is the next great TE because he is big and fast? Get real.Well Listenbee was unable to play due to injury And Logan Thomas was the #1 TE recruit coming out of HS Jason Peter's was a converted TE George Wilson a WR It happens And find ONCE where I said SAVIOR I said a sleeper Edited March 19, 2017 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Graham was a protected late round pick/UDFA who the Bills took in the 3rd round. Listenbee was a protected 4th/5th round pick who slid because of his injury and because teams knew he probably wouldn't contribute last year. It really was a worth while pick for the Bills. Looking forward to seeing him running at speed in Pittsford this year ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 I just hope we finally see 16 full games of Sammy. I'm sick of getting excited watching him to play to be injured the next game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 It's gonna be tough for Easley He is a special teams ace Which is vital and there is a spot on teams for guys like him But they are usually on a teams roster as a late round pick or UDFA and usually don't make it past 2 contract's Easley is worth a bit more than what a team will pay for a 6th wideout and ST guy Well Listenbee was unable to play due to injury And Logan Thomas was the #1 TE recruit coming out of HS Jason Peter's was a converted TE George Wilson a WR It happens And find ONCE where I said SAVIOR I said a sleeper I like the post 716. He is perfect sleeper material ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 And it's not Dez Lewis who disappears every year when the pads come on It is our redshirt rookie speedster Kolby Listenbee out of TCU He has already boasted that he is THE FASTEST PLAYER in the NFL And ran a 4.39 40 with A DOUBLE SPORTS HERNIA He is a natural hands catcher of the football, and is good at tracking the deep ball He has good size 6' 190 LBs with room to grow And his route running improved substantially over his time at TCU This kid has GAS speed and would have been a 4th round pick if not for his surgery With TT's deep ball and a threat like Sammy on the outside... I can see the bills taking advantage of 1 on 1 situations on the outside with Listenbee when the situation presents itself This kid can be a weapon https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DZD-vX71On44&ved=0ahUKEwizx4HI5eDSAhWC5oMKHcbICvgQt9IBCGwwFA&usg=AFQjCNH7Bl89yCtxm48M5acKWf4V5AD5aw Still need someone to get him the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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