wilsonbc Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I keep hearing that the bills want to move on from Tyrod given what his option would do to our already strapped salary cap position for the next couple of years. In addition, there are reports that Whaley wants C. Jones to start or be the quarterback of the future. However, he is clearly a "project". We know that there is a small supply of starting caliber qb's in the NFL. We also know the bills don't have a plethora of draft choices this year. Lastly, virtually every expert would agree that Tony Romo is a better/more dangerous quarterback than Taylor, when healthy. There were reports that Jerry wanted to play him over Dak in the playoffs! Here is a plan that might make sense for 2017 and beyond: 1) trade Tyrod Taylor before his option bonus kicks in to a Qb needy team, particularly one that wants a mobile Qb. If you don't think he could fetch a 2nd or 3rd round pick then you haven't been paying attention to the trade and financial cost of qbs in the NFL over the last few years. 2) aggressively pursue Tony Romo in a trade. I don't love him. I know he is fragile. However, allegedly he will only be dealt to the AFC, his salary is low ($14.5 mil for 2017), and he wouldn't be the long term solution. The cost is reported to be a 2nd round pick with conditions. In this scenario, you get Romo for Tyrod. The trade cost to get Romo would not result in further depleting our small draft pick allotment. And better yet, no money locked up in our starting Qb in 2017 and beyond. 3) tell the world that C. Jones is the future franchise Qb, but he isn't ready yet. Give him plenty of practice reps (as Romo will need down time during the week). Let him develop and evaluate him after the 2017 season 4) draft the best available wr at #10 and tell Romo to entice him to accept a trade here. Romo might like McCoy, a healthy Clay, Watkins and a big, talented (and most importantly, cheap) Wr stud from the draft. Have you seen what the projections for Woods or any other WR2 are in this upcoming FA market???? 5) find a solid veteran starting RT in the FA market. RT's are far more affordable than Wr in the FA market. 6) get healthy on D, use draft picks wisely and let McDermitt do his thing. We will be better on D this year. Can't be much worse. 7) cross your fingers on health in 2017. If Romo stays heathy then the bills offense is certainly playoff caliber. And certainly better than last season. Romo and his health are a good fit for a quick passing west coast offense. And we have a very strong running game. If Romo gets hurt then C. Jones takes over and you can cut Romo with no salary cap ramifications and tack a new course next year. And we may be bad enough to get a high draft pick. Thoughts??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I think we need another QB thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsonbc Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 Isn't that the purpose of this website? To share ideas, information, and opinions? I don't think we need more idiots trying to police a website like there are actual laws being broken. If you don't have interest or input then just move along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 The chances of Romo getting hurt again are really high. The guy is in bad shape. Might as well just start Cardale, honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 The chances of Romo getting hurt again are really high. The guy is in bad shape. Might as well just start Cardale, honestly. I agree with this. If they're moving on from Tyrod it has to be either Cardale or a rookie drafted in the first round to lead this team in 2017. Everyone talks about Romo being fragile, which he certainly appears to be, but how many more years does he have regardless? If you're going to tear it down, tear it down. If you feel we are close with an improved McDermott defense, then go with Tyrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Why can't you plan on starting CardAle and still draft a rookie QB? If you think one of these guys coming out is the real deal then use that 10th pick and get their asses to Buffalo. Stop passing on QB's because it's hard to get the right one and get out there and find him. Or get your own ass out of Buffalo Douglas!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1) No team will trade for Taylor with his existing contract. 2) Dallas may get something for Romo, but will likely end up having to take a lesser pick or outright release him. They sure aren't getting a 2nd rounder for him at this point. His salary and injury history make him a huge risk. I'd look elsewhere. 3) Whaley wanted to see what they had in Jones and he wanted Taylor on the bench where he couldn't get injured. Don't read more into the situation than that. I do agree that they need to keep bringing him along. 4) WR should absolutely be in play at 10. 5) Agree. Finding a RT in FA is a necessity. It's a very weak draft for offensive tackles. 6) It'll be interesting to see what McD does with this defense. Retaining or replacing Gilmore is likely very important. 7) Health is always important, but building depth helps weather injuries. Finding a franchise caliber QB sure helps too. I don't think it should be Romo or Taylor, but they sure need to try to find one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Jesus how many threads do we need on the QB situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Jesus how many threads do we need on the QB situation? I'm guessing it's one thread for every poster who has a question or theory about the QB situation, but doesn't bother to look at any existing thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Enough with the Romo crap. He is not coming to Buffalo. With the fragile factor its a waste of cap space. Might as well pick up a cheap veteran, draft a QB high in the draft if McDermy likes what he sees, and let Cardale, the veteran, and the rookie compete for the starting job into the lost season of 2017/18. The chances of Romo getting hurt again are really high. The guy is in bad shape.Might as well just start Cardale, honestly. This I agree with this. If they're moving on from Tyrod it has to be either Cardale or a rookie drafted in the first round to lead this team in 2017. Everyone talks about Romo being fragile, which he certainly appears to be, but how many more years does he have regardless? If you're going to tear it down, tear it down. If you feel we are close with an improved McDermott defense, then go with Tyrod. and that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 so sick of the QB fights. Just put a Jugs football passing machine behind Wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 so sick of the QB fights. Just put a Jugs football passing machine behind Wood This. But not the one from USC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Getting Romo is a waste of time and energy in my book. Get McCown for the experience and let him fight it out with Cardale and a rookie, hopefully either Mahomes or Watson. I'm a huge Mahomes fan but the more I watch Watson the more he grows on me. Watson reminds me of J. Kelly in the way that he performs better when the pressure is on (for the most part). Go Bills!!!!! If we could land WR Williams at #10 and then trade back up and land Mahomes or Watson it would be an awesome draft and get a lot of fans pumped up again. Let's Go Buffalo!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 1) No team will trade for Taylor with his existing contract. This is true. And Taylor has no incentive to re-do his agreement to allow a trade. He is better off picking his own team in the FA market. If a team wants Taylor badly and doesn't think it will win the bidding war for him, they may be willing to eat the agreement in a trade but that us highly unlikely and just wishful dreaming like all of these pre-draft threads have been for the last ten+ years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 i would much rather sever ties with Tyrod (really like him, but his limitations as a qb will prevent him from ever being what we NEED from the qb position). draft a kid (whoever they feel strong about). and bring in whatever talented UFAs are out there. let the young talent (Cardale included) sling it out in all the mini camps, and coach the crap outa these kids to get the most talent on the field for opening day. by the end of the season we will know if we have someone here with the possibility of being great, or if we need to draft another one. and if they fall flat, then we draft high. cycle and repeat until we have a qb that the rest of the league hates! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Hey guys I have an awesome idea about what to do with the QB situation. I will make a thread b.c it is so awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomper Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 See what it'll cost to pry McCarron out of Cincinnati. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 See what it'll cost to pry McCarron out of Cincinnati. Could be an option... Let Taylor walk... Let someone else waste money on him... use the savings to upgrade the OL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Hey guys I have an awesome idea about what to do with the QB situation. I will make a thread b.c it is so awesome! that would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) Tyrod- hasn't shown me he can perform in the clutch with the game on the line. This is 3 or 4 potential W's to L's every season. It hurts because I really like him..but I watched the 4th quarters of the first Miami, Oakland, Pittsburgh games and the throws just weren't timely or accurate in the clutch. I would still be cheering like hell every Sunday if the Bills kept him -- but I would know deep down that the Bills ceiling with Tyrod at the helm is a wild card and a first round loss. Options: Heavy Game Experience: - Romo- He's played in 5 regular season games in the last 2 years. His injuries have been upper body ones. He is a really, really good QB who's time has passed and in many ways he is also not great in clutch. He is almost a sure bet to throw an INT with the game on line. Cutler - will be on the market..again not a clutch performer and fragile. See Romo's last line... Alex Smith - Andy Reid said Friday that Smith is the Chiefs QB next year Josh McCown- now 37 years old, never played a full season Fitz- Will rip your guts out at the wrong time but out of this list if I wanted a 1 year stopgap -- he would be my choice. Promising Potential: If the Bills sign/acquire one of these guys -- they are committing for the next 3-5 years. They are also committing to develop Cardale and have him realistically compete for the job in 2018 or 2019 after spending 2017 as a back-up. AJ McCarron - Worry about arm strength still but a really good game manager and accurate Mike Glennon- Still young. Tall, Rangy, nice arm, accurate. Got killed his first two years in TB. Will likely come fairly cheap. Does not cost a draft pick. Jimmy Garrapolo - there is no way Belichick trades him within the division so not realistic This year's Draft...Watson, Turbisky, Mahomes, Kizer, Kaaya, Webb Bills will need too much help other places to commit the #1 to this. McDermott will want a DT, LB or Box Safety with pick 1 because they are the key to his Defense. If Kizer drops to round 2 -- I hope Bills are all over this. He had a bad year last year..but ND was playing constantly from behind and Kelly didn't mix the passing game as he did in 2015 when Kizer shined (2015 was a mix of west coast slants and deep outs, middle to the TE, etc) 2016 was more one dimensional. He is accurate and sees the field, but when the opposition only has to defend down the field its easier. There is no reason the Bills can't combine Glennon, Jones and Kizer..and what tremendous assets these might offer for rebuilding....It would be nice to be a QB seller at trade time than always having to be a buyer... Edited February 12, 2017 by JoeF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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