Doc Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, ALF said: The only way to help this economy and the stock market is to put money into stopping this virus not more tax cuts. The US can't do much about global fears and economic impacts to other countries, which is what is mostly tanking the SM. 2
GG Posted March 12, 2020 Author Posted March 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, ALF said: The only way to help this economy and the stock market is to put money into stopping this virus not more tax cuts. I'm guessing that at this point all available resources are going to stop the rapid spread of the virus. On the economic front, the no free lunch truism always applies. Beware of the unintended consequences of the total population lockdowns. The "cure" may be worse than the disease. 2 1
Koko78 Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 55 minutes ago, ALF said: The only way to help this economy and the stock market is to put money into stopping this virus... Did someone say flamethrowers?
4merper4mer Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 22 minutes ago, TPS said: Doesn't look like he reassured markets ... You must be so happy. 10 hours ago, ALF said: The only way to help this economy and the stock market is to put money into stopping this virus not more tax cuts. Lol. I heard nickels are a cure. If only the government saved all the nickels for themselves.
TPS Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 20 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: You must be so happy. Lol. I heard nickels are a cure. If only the government saved all the nickels for themselves. I'm not happy that the leader of the country, that most others look up to, is unfit for this challenge. He makes me actually like Pence.
mjt328 Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, TPS said: I'm not happy that the leader of the country, that most others look up to, is unfit for this challenge. He makes me actually like Pence. What would you have suggested he do differently? 1 1
CoudyBills Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, mjt328 said: What would you have suggested he do differently? He doesn't have an actual opinion on that. In fact, the party line he is spouting shows he can't actually form a legitimate opinion. Must be a bot.
4merper4mer Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, TPS said: I'm not happy that the leader of the country, that most others look up to, is unfit for this challenge. He makes me actually like Pence. If only we had one of your favorite commies in control.
Buffalo_Gal Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, TPS said: I'm not happy that the leader of the country, that most others look up to, is unfit for this challenge. He makes me actually like Pence. What exactly do you think these leaders, specifically President Trump, should be doing?
4merper4mer Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: What exactly do you think these leaders, specifically President Trump, should be doing? Commie stuff, duh.
Buffalo_Gal Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 Just now, 4merper4mer said: Commie stuff, duh. Of course! What was I thinking?
Doc Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, TPS said: Doesn't look like he reassured markets ... Restricting travel from Europe will do that...
Whatnot78 Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 28 minutes ago, TPS said: I'm not happy that the leader of the country, that most others look up to, is unfit for this challenge. He makes me actually like Pence. So you blame Trump for the pandemic, yet like the person he put in charge of said pandemmic? Makes sense ?
GG Posted March 12, 2020 Author Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, TPS said: Doesn't look like he reassured markets ... You mean that people who trade securities for a living crunched the underlying numbers behind his words?
Warren Zevon Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 Saddle up. The time to go shopping is today - this weekend things will be tough to come by - not because people are hoarding, but because everyone will be shopping at once.
Doc Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: Saddle up. The time to go shopping is today - this weekend things will be tough to come by - not because people are hoarding, but because everyone will be shopping at once. My wife went yesterday. No toilet paper.
TPS Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, 4merper4mer said: If only we had one of your favorite commies in control. The guys at American Conservative aren't too impressed either: https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/trump-coronavirus-speech-reaction/ Quote Good part: This is a new, more serious tone from him. I sincerely welcome that Bad parts: He looked and sounded unwell I don’t suppose I’m opposed to the European travel restrictions, but it’s much too late for that to do measurable good. They would have made a lot more sense two weeks ago. And exempting Britain from this ban is senseless. It sounded like he’s trying to frame the virus as an external threat. But it’s already here, and it’s rapidly spreading. This seemed more rhetorical than anything else — Trump trying to reinforce his image as a nationalist looking out for American interests He spoke much more about economic relief than public health concerns He spent far too much time and effort trying to defend his administration’s response, and no time speaking more directly to people who — encouraged by him and his media coterie — have spent the last few weeks minimizing the seriousness of all this He said little or nothing about testing, which we are still not able to do. No real talk about social distancing He did not declare a state of national emergency, which would have helpful policy and legal effects at the state level He said nothing about the critical-care crisis facing hospitals. I have found that this is a point that is not widely understood by the general public: that even if only a relatively small number of people are ultimately going to die from this virus, it stands to overwhelm our hospitals. This is why it is so very important for everybody to practice social distancing and the rest: to slow the rate of infection, and give our health care system the chance to cope. It is beyond comprehension why he didn’t make this clear to listeners tonight. I’ve had a number of conversations these past few days with people who aren’t following the story closely, and they are entirely unaware of this fact. The president blew an opportunity to explain that to the nation Watching him, I realized the cost of a president having pissed away his authority these past three years, with his daily juvenile tweets and schoolyard rhetoric. The country needs a president now who can inspire, galvanize, and lead. Tonight I saw a president who looked tired, afraid, and completely unconvincing. He ended by calling for an end to partisanship, and the nation coming together to fight this threat. That’s what any president should do in his position, in a moment of great national crisis. It is difficult to imagine a president with less credibility to make that ask Real leadership in this crisis is going to have to come from governors, from public health officials, and from institutional leaders. We saw tonight that even when Trump is trying to be on his best behavior, he just doesn’t have much of a clue about the nature of the crisis, or how it can best be fought.
Chef Jim Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 22 hours ago, Tiberius said: CORONAVIRUS Dow slides over coronavirus anxiety, oil-price war U.S. markets erased much of Tuesday’s gains at the open. By Taylor Telford and Thomas Heath 40 minutes ago Wrong thread.
TPS Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Whatnot78 said: So you blame Trump for the pandemic, yet like the person he put in charge of said pandemmic? Makes sense ? Where have I ever blamed TRump for the pandemic? This is what happens when people idolize him, they can't rationally evaluate him. I've been saying that he/they had an opportunity to get out front when they shut down flights with China, but they didn't. They have been reactive not proactive. Someone criticized Cuomo for bringing back SUNY students studying abroad, and fortunately he did that before Italy shut down. That is being proactive. Yes, compared to Trump, Pence looks like a leader. Edited March 12, 2020 by TPS
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