PolishDave Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 (edited) @salsports Pats TE coach/former NFL OC Brian Daboll went to St Francis HS and began coaching career at William & Mary Sean McDermott's senior year. Hmm Others here and elsewhere have wondered/suggested Daboll for Bills OC, but if you're looking for any connections to McDermott, there you go. He was OC for Browns a few years ago. Bad. But, it was the Browns so @bradleygelber Report from @jeffphowe was that Daboll would've been Pats OC if McDaniels left. Players feel he's ready. Would be a smart look by the #Bills From research the only positive things I can find on this guy is that 1) he is a local guy and 2) he worked for the Patriots as a tight end coach Here are his stats as an offensive coordinator Offensive Rankings Year Team Total Points Yards/Gm Rushing Yds/A Passing Yds/A Completion % 2009 Cleveland 29 32 15 32 32 2010 Cleveland 31 29 19 21 14 2011 Miami 20 22 15 13 18 2012 Kansas City 32 24 5 30 27 What is it about him that makes him look attractive other than he is local and worked as an assistant for the Patriots a few years? Not trying to knock the guy. Just don't see what there is to get excited about. Notice how short his stints have been as an offensive coordinator. That also doesn't bode well for him. Edited January 18, 2017 by PolishDave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 I don't think you can block a promotion for a coach, only lateral moves. If he's below OC now, the Pats have nothing to say about it unless they instantly promote him to OC and fire McD. Rex couldn't block Pettine from becoming the Bills' DC because he wasn't the DC in NY. Similarly, the Bills couldn't block Pettine from going to Cleveland because it was a promotion. Plus, how much of a d#$k would you be if you blocked somebody on your staff from a promotion somewhere else. How many people would want to coach under that leadership? Nobody who thinks they'll be a HC someday. Only position that cant be blocked is a HC vacancy. All others can be blocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Only position that cant be blocked is a HC vacancy. All others can be blocked. So why call them co-ordinators? Just call them assistant coaches to put them all in same pool. Honestly some of these names they come up with are strangest things ever. Case in point is Childress being the spread offense co-offensive coordinator in KC. Just call him assistant offensive coach and be done with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 So why call them co-ordinators? Just call them assistant coaches to put them all in same pool. Honestly some of these names they come up with are strangest things ever. Case in point is Childress being the spread offense co-offensive coordinator in KC. Just call him assistant offensive coach and be done with it. In the end theyre all assistants. But the assistants are then further specialized. In the end youre either a HC or an assistant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 I don't think you can block a promotion for a coach, only lateral moves. If he's below OC now, the Pats have nothing to say about it unless they instantly promote him to OC and fire McD. Rex couldn't block Pettine from becoming the Bills' DC because he wasn't the DC in NY. Similarly, the Bills couldn't block Pettine from going to Cleveland because it was a promotion. Plus, how much of a d#$k would you be if you blocked somebody on your staff from a promotion somewhere else. How many people would want to coach under that leadership? Nobody who thinks they'll be a HC someday. Agreed! Bad big picture policy if so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zac Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 From research the only positive things I can find on this guy is that 1) he is a local guy and 2) he worked for the Patriots as a tight end coach Here are his stats as an offensive coordinator Offensive Rankings Year Team Total Points Yards/Gm Rushing Yds/A Passing Yds/A Completion % 2009 Cleveland 29 32 15 32 32 2010 Cleveland 31 29 19 21 14 2011 Miami 20 22 15 13 18 2012 Kansas City 32 24 5 30 27 What is it about him that makes him look attractive other than he is local and worked as an assistant for the Patriots a few years? Not trying to knock the guy. Just don't see what there is to get excited about. Notice how short his stints have been as an offensive coordinator. That also doesn't bode well for him. He's Belichek's hand-picked replacement in waiting for McDaniels. That's all i need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafter Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 I don't think you can block a promotion for a coach, only lateral moves. If he's below OC now, the Pats have nothing to say about it unless they instantly promote him to OC and fire McD. Rex couldn't block Pettine from becoming the Bills' DC because he wasn't the DC in NY. Similarly, the Bills couldn't block Pettine from going to Cleveland because it was a promotion. Plus, how much of a d#$k would you be if you blocked somebody on your staff from a promotion somewhere else. How many people would want to coach under that leadership? Nobody who thinks they'll be a HC someday. Pettine was DC in NY. His contract expired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 He's Belichek's hand-picked replacement in waiting for McDaniels. That's all i need to know. ^^^^^THIS > Olson as OC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABuffaloFan Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Greg Olson? No, No, No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 He's Belichek's hand-picked replacement in waiting for McDaniels. That's all i need to know. Are we sure about this? Even if true, Belichick requires his coordinators to run the Pats O and the Pats D. They're not required to innovate. They're required to execute a pre-existing plan. Not sure he could do that here with Bill to guide him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABuffaloFan Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Anybody up for Gailey, his offenses weren't the problem. He got 1200 yards and 6.0 yards a carry from CJ Spiller. Imagine what he could do with McCoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 18, 2017 Author Share Posted January 18, 2017 Pats would prob block him. Where is McDaniels going? I thought he said hes staying.i think that article was from when mcdaniels was still interviewing and hadn't announced his withdrawal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Anybody up for Gailey, his offenses weren't the problem. He got 1200 yards and 6.0 yards a carry from CJ Spiller. Imagine what he could do with McCoy. He has plenty of experience. That's for sure. You would see a lot more passing too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 He has plenty of experience. That's for sure. You would see a lot more passing too. All I know is Gailey made a half way decent offense with a 7th Round draft pick QB (Fitzpatrick) an undrafted RB (Fred Jackson) a 7th WR (Stevie Johnson) and undrafted WRs (David Nelson and Donald Jones) and a journeyman TE (Scott Chandler). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABuffaloFan Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 All I know is Gailey made a half way decent offense with a 7th Round draft pick QB (Fitzpatrick) an undrafted RB (Fred Jackson) a 7th WR (Stevie Johnson) and undrafted WRs (David Nelson and Donald Jones) and a journeyman TE (Scott Chandler). Nobody hated Gailey either, he just didn't know how to HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 I'm down with the Chan as OC, I just don't think it's going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 i think that article was from when mcdaniels was still interviewing and hadn't announced his withdrawal Gotcha. Thanks. Good looking out man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 i think that article was from when mcdaniels was still interviewing and hadn't announced his withdrawal Never announce your withdrawal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Anybody up for Gailey, his offenses weren't the problem. He got 1200 yards and 6.0 yards a carry from CJ Spiller. Imagine what he could do with McCoy. He retired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 I'm OK with the blocking policy for the following reason. most position coaches are only signed to two year contracts which means at most there would only be one season that you could be prevented from leaving. I'm sure when coordinators leave for HC positions it does create some havoc for team losing him. But in reality there may be less than 1/2 dozen per year. Coordinators sometimes leave teams that don't even have a HC change. So if you were to allow anyone to also leave for every open coordinator positions, think there's just be too much churn. So for one year at most you're locked in Oh well, sorry!! I actually wonder if that was the reason the Bills retained Crossman as the guy McD wants is signed till next year and there wasn't anyone else he really wanted. Come the end of next season, regardless how well they may do, a change is made. Plus, how much of a d#$k would you be if you blocked somebody on your staff from a promotion somewhere else. How many people would want to coach under that leadership? Nobody who thinks they'll be a HC someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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