papazoid Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 @mikerodak Important to note: Tyrod Taylor's contract contains offset language that would reduce the amount of any injury guarantee the Bills owe him 2017 by whatever 2017 salaries and bonuses are paid to him by his new team. so were not doomed ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 so were not doomed ?? Offset language is always good. I thought Overdorf is supposed to be an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Whatever. It's still on DW for signing TT to an extension when he didn't have to. TT was signed through this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 Whatever. It's still on DW for signing TT to an extension when he didn't have to. TT was signed through this year. Better than having to tag him and tie up even more $ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Better than having to tag him and tie up even more $ After his performance this year would we have been in a good bargaining position? Hard to say, but DW can't complain about the terms of a contract that he negotiated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 After his performance this year would we have been in a good bargaining position? Hard to say, but DW can't complain about the terms of a contract that he negotiated. Of course not. But they were smart to make it at their option with an opportunity to walk away clean if they so choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) Whatever. It's still on DW for signing TT to an extension when he didn't have to. TT was signed through this year. The contract was designed to be a team-friendly contract for a "Yes" or "No" answer - "Yes" Tyrod took that step, we want him to be our man, "No", last year was just a flash in the pan, now that teams have tape on him he regressed, byebye. If Tyrod had taken that step and had to be tagged for $19.6M, it would be a bigger hit on our cap than the $15.9 they're committed to paying him if they pick up his option. So there were sound business reasons to offer that extension. Unfortunately for the Bills, the answer came out "Perhaps", which makes the contract borderline for the team. Edited January 6, 2017 by Hapless Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 The contract was designed to be a team-friendly contract for a "Yes" or "No" answer - "Yes" Tyrod took that step, we want him to be our man, "No", last year was just a flash in the pan, now that teams have tape on him he regressed. If Tyrod had taken that step and had to be tagged for $19.6M, it would be a bigger hit on our cap than the $15.9 they're committed to paying him if they pick up his option. So there were sound business reasons to offer that extension. Unfortunately for the Bills, the answer came out "Perhaps", which makes the contract borderline for the team. Thus the dilemma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 At the end of the day,our QB follies continue and the FO continues to underwhelm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12Kachy Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 What if all of this is BS and the Bills keep him. I would not be opposed as any FA QB worth bringing in (ie can replace TT) is going to cost more. And if they really want to release him, Whaley put the organization in this position with expert contract negotiations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 What if all of this is BS and the Bills keep him. I would not be opposed as any FA QB worth bringing in (ie can replace TT) is going to cost more. And if they really want to release him, Whaley put the organization in this position with expert contract negotiations. I think this could happen. I also think depending on the HC, the Bills could have someone in mind they want to go after instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Whatever happens our team comes out looking dysfunctional as always Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I may be in the minority, but I'm hoping Tyrod comes out on top in this. Our organization came up with this contract. It's their fault. I agree with you. Yes and need to be able to exercise the options in contract. That was part of decision to sign the contract - Tyrod did not need to sign contract to go to Buffalo OR extension; his agent could have recommended against it. The Bills mistake was not putting him on IR week 17 or earlier; they have put players on IR for less. It's open season on OBD. @Deadspin Tyrod Taylor might be calling the Bills' bluff: http://deadsp.in/UNjkoUT They are wrong here. The Bills must decide whether to pick up Taylor’s contract option by March 11. They obviously don’t intend to do that. But in order to be released, he must first undergo a physical with team doctors. He’s got to pass that physical if the Bills are to release him without being on the hook for that $27.5 million. They did the SMART thing to preserve their rights under the contract since they do not know yet who HC/OC is. The new coach may prefer to go with TT with the positives/negatives or may prefer a veteran or rookie. The front office has not completed the end of year evaluation of his performance yet. Holy ****....he could die from this? Of course. Infection from surgery could cause him to lose his spleen and we know that is fatal. I cannot believe how uninformed you are - do you work for the media? We have a diverse and talented group here, so perhaps someone who knows more than I on the topic will step in. Yes we are. Some make La Conjecture look like an amateur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Good, fairly balanced La Canfora article about Taylor's contract and the interpretation of the injury clause. Has sources and facts and all! http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/the-27-5m-question-how-will-bills-interpret-wording-in-tyrod-taylors-deal/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 The contract was designed to be a team-friendly contract for a "Yes" or "No" answer - "Yes" Tyrod took that step, we want him to be our man, "No", last year was just a flash in the pan, now that teams have tape on him he regressed, byebye. If Tyrod had taken that step and had to be tagged for $19.6M, it would be a bigger hit on our cap than the $15.9 they're committed to paying him if they pick up his option. So there were sound business reasons to offer that extension. Unfortunately for the Bills, the answer came out "Perhaps", which makes the contract borderline for the team. Remember when Bills did not offer a previous starting QB a extension and then columnist Jerry Sullivan made a big deal out of it and later after they did Jerry the mouth made a big deal about the terrible deal they did. Damned if you do and damned if you don't unless you be atheist and not care what the damn press says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 It's open season on OBD. @Deadspin Tyrod Taylor might be calling the Bills' bluff: http://deadsp.in/UNjkoUT I believe them to be mistaken in their (rather wild overinterpretation) of the Bills press release. It is possible that the Bills doctors believed he would recover with rest and the "they" in Tyrod's press conference was an independent groin/hernia surgeon specialist he consulted in Buffalo. But the part about "The Bills say the had no idea this was even a possibility until Taylor informed the team yesterday." is clearly 100% bogus - Taylor has been on injury report for a month, referred to someone who thought surgery was indicated and stated his plans for a 2nd opinion and surgery if indicated, during his locker clean out interview. Plus, I have seen no such statements by the Bills, saying they had no idea this was a possibility and etc. Deadspin is making sh*t up I think. Under the CBA, all players have the right to 2nd opinions with doctors of their choice and the Bills both sanction this and have something to do with this because 1) Taylor is free to seek treatment for a football injury with any medical provider he chooses and 2) under the CBA, the Bills pay. The Bills can argue about it if Taylor goes off the rails and seeks some experimental treatment that's not generally medically accepted, but that's hardly the case here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Because the Bills are dysfunctional, dummy. I don't know how they got into this position. Tyrod is clearly using them to show other teams that he can be a selfish, greedy, injury-prone, non-leader/non-team player who is damaged goods in order to escape a team that doesn't want him and won't pay him and has no viable coach so he can get a huge contract from that team, who doesn't really want him because it's obvious he sucks. Open your eyes, apologist! Innarestin'. Good take... [/realists] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 A crazy idea: why not keep him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 @mikerodak Tyrod Taylor's core muscle surgery was performed this week with the Bills being aware of, and involved in the process to have it done, league sources told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter. This was not a surprise to the Bills. Taylor was diagnosed with a core muscle issue late in the season and played with it until Week 17. Bills doctors told Taylor that surgery was possible and they even recommended that he visit Dr. Meyers in Philadelphia. None of this was done independently by Taylor; all of it was done with them being fully aware. Dr. Meyers determined there was no medical alternative; surgery was the only option. Taylor's recovery is expected to be six to eight weeks, possibly longer. @mikerodak Despite their statement yesterday, Bills were "fully aware" of Tyrod Taylor's groin surgery and involved in process, per @AdamSchefter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 @mikerodak Tyrod Taylor's core muscle surgery was performed this week with the Bills being aware of, and involved in the process to have it done, league sources told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter. This was not a surprise to the Bills. Taylor was diagnosed with a core muscle issue late in the season and played with it until Week 17. Bills doctors told Taylor that surgery was possible and they even recommended that he visit Dr. Meyers in Philadelphia. None of this was done independently by Taylor; all of it was done with them being fully aware. Dr. Meyers determined there was no medical alternative; surgery was the only option. Taylor's recovery is expected to be six to eight weeks, possibly longer. @mikerodak Despite their statement yesterday, Bills were "fully aware" of Tyrod Taylor's groin surgery and involved in process, per @AdamSchefter. Some cracker jack reporting there. I mean who had a clue the Bills knew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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