BADOLBILZ Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 He's had opportunities to leave and it's not like teams don't know he's as good as guys like Hoyer or Fitz. I'd have taken him as the Bills QB years ago but my impression was that he rather likes the cushy job being a back up, not getting hit and living in South Florida. He could do that for another 6-8 years easy. Now if someone wants to give him $10M-$12M per year MAYBE that's a different story. My guess is he just gets a raise again in Miami and hopes he doesn't have to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Well done on both attempts at rationalization. However, it's like trying to teach trigonometry to a bunch of neanderthals at times around here. And when you cite facts, you are deemed a member of a cult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Would have no problem drafting Watson.....just dont want to throw the offense on his shoulders in his rookie year Why? Becuase he could be Dak Prescott? Please name the QBs that we can expect similar play from that are available for under 10M. Deshaun Watson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 He's had opportunities to leave and it's not like teams don't know he's as good as guys like Hoyer or Fitz. I'd have taken him as the Bills QB years ago but my impression was that he rather likes the cushy job being a back up, not getting hit and living in South Florida. He could do that for another 6-8 years easy. Now if someone wants to give him $10M-$12M per year MAYBE that's a different story. My guess is he just gets a raise again in Miami and hopes he doesn't have to play. That's been my take too based just on guesses. I think he realized backup qb is the best job around. Safe, loved, well paying - sign me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Yeah because he tried to sign him TWO years ago before the bad tape happened and because QB play cost denver a chance to defend their championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 (edited) I beg to differ. Let me explain, you win by scoring more points that your opponent. Now stay with me here being a top 5 scoring team means something. If you are top 5 you have half the way there, now you need to focus on your defense and make sure they know how to tackle. If you improve the defense, those pretty offensive stats get you a lot of wins. Just sayin.. If you score 400 points in a season and are still under .500, your problem is the defense. EDIT: Bills are #6 in points scored with the 10th toughest strength of schedule. Edited December 26, 2016 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 and because QB play cost denver a chance to defend their championship. Really hmmm why cant their defense stop People from scoring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Really hmmm why cant their defense stop People from scoring? Denver is 1st in passing offense. Shouldn't they be set? They don't score and they don't get 1st downs . Bad in both categories . They are 6th in scoring defense though. You don't think their D is far better than Buffalo's? The Denver Offense doesn't sustain drives , it is a team game. Most would say Denver has a very good defense and needs better QB play. I think Taylor is better than Simien. Not in any statistical metric, mind you . Just the eye test. Denver would be playoff bound with Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Denver is 1st in passing offense. Shouldn't they be set? They don't score and they don't get 1st downs . Bad in both categories . They are 6th in scoring defense though. You don't think their D is far better than Buffalo's? The Denver Offense doesn't sustain drives , it is a team game. Most would say Denver has a very good defense and needs better QB play. I think Taylor is better than Simien. Not in any statistical metric, mind you . Just the eye test. Denver would be playoff bound with Taylor. Maybe that defense shouldnt let KC and Raiders hang 30. But hey that argument only works where when trying to defend a Avg QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Why? Becuase he could be Dak Prescott? Deshaun Watson He may very well be......but without the OL and wideouts backing him up...he also probably is flat out not ready to be a NFL QB coming out the box. I still like him a lot Maybe that defense shouldnt let KC and Raiders hang 30. But hey that argument only works where when trying to defend a Avg QB Are either of those teams even close to 7th in the league scoring points? its not the same situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 He may very well be......but without the OL and wideouts backing him up...he also probably is flat out not ready to be a NFL QB coming out the box. I still like him a lot Our OL (Run Blocking) right behind Dallas Our OL (Pass Blocking) not as bad as people want to make it Our RB is comparable Our WR and TE are comparable He may very well be......but without the OL and wideouts backing him up...he also probably is flat out not ready to be a NFL QB coming out the box. I still like him a lot Are either of those teams even close to 7th in the league scoring points? its not the same situation Sure it is. Defense let KC and Raiders hang 30 cost them wins. Not the QB fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 So what is your solution? Rather than spewing out your dislike of Taylor on every single thread - give us an intelligent option. Draft? Free Agent? Trade? Right now (IMHO) Tyrod is our best short term option, unless C. Jones has an amazing camp next year. Jones should be given the chance to have an amazing game this Sunday. But he won't get that opportunity because if Ryan feels there's the slightest chance he'll be retained if he wins big against the Jets, he'll go with Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Jones should be given the chance to have an amazing game this Sunday. But he won't get that opportunity because if Ryan feels there's the slightest chance he'll be retained if he wins big against the Jets, he'll go with Taylor. Why should he Jesusnhe hasnt even been activated once this year meaning no better than EJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Deshaun Watson And how much are you willing to give up to get a draft pick where he still would be available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 We should just rename this site majbobby.com at this point. He's like a slightly more articulate Bills fan 4 ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 And how much are you willing to give up to get a draft pick where he still would be available? Whatever i need to because once you get a legit QB everything else falls into place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Whatever i need to because once you get a legit QB everything else falls into place Remind me never to have you negotiate anything for me. I'm sorry but you have such a simplistic view of what it takes to win. What about an O-Line or a defense? If you give up the house how are you going to fix the holes this team has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 (edited) Whatever i need to because once you get a legit QB everything else falls into placeThis place has become insane. Look. Forget about Taylor for a second. Dude you need to score more points than your opponent. It's like the only thing that matters- it makes zero difference how you do it. Their offense is REALLY GOOD at scoring points. Like one of the best scoring teams in the league and one of the best Bills scoring teams of ALL TIME. They are about to set the NFL record for fewest turnovers in a 16 game season. How much better do you need your offense to be before you say, hey ya know what, maybe the defense could've been better this year? Why are you so obsessed with Tyrod Taylor? He's a below average yet effective starting NFL QB. He's so far from the biggest problem on this team it's ridiculous. Edited December 26, 2016 by metzelaars_lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 (edited) This place has become insane. Look. Forget about Taylor for a second. Dude you need to score more points than your opponent. It's like the only thing that matters- it makes zero difference how you do it. Their offense is REALLY GOOD at scoring points. Like one of the best scoring teams in the league and one of the best Bills scoring teams of ALL TIME. They are about to set the NFL record for fewest turnovers in a 16 game season. How much better do you need your offense to be before you say, hey ya know what, maybe the defense could've been better this year? Why are you so obsessed with Tyrod Taylor? He's a below average yet effective starting NFL QB. He's so far from the biggest problem on this team it's ridiculous.You want one Run? Or you want to be built for sustainable success? You want one run by all means spend to Cap draft weapons and make that one Run. You want sustainable success if you have a QB you have identified (Bills have identified good ones) then go get him and not wait til you think where he should go. And i am not obsessed with Taylor i am obsessed with No QB since Kelly and watching team after team (minus Browns) thier QB Edited December 26, 2016 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 (edited) You want one Run? Or you want to be built for sustainable success? You want one run by all means spend to Cap draft weapons and make that one Run. You want sustainable success if you have a QB you have identified (Bills have identified good ones) then go get him and not wait til you think where he should go. But dude, they were exactly the same last year- 12th overall, top 10 scoring offense and Taylor had one of the better TD : turnover ratios in the league. You may not like how he looks or his passing yardage totals but he has been an effective QB both of his two seasons on the Bills. This is not up for debate. Edited December 26, 2016 by metzelaars_lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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