BADOLBILZ Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Not true on EJ. You may think that the plan for competition (Kolb) was poor, but to say that they didn't have competition for him is incorrect. As to forcing a QB selection, the only time I endorse it is in a situation like the 2013 Bills--when the cupboard is completely bare of anyone with franchise potential. Anyone who thinks that Kolb was intended to provide serious competition to EJ really must think Nix, Whaley and Marrone were complete idiots. When the guy you call competition is a critically busted up and washed out vet.....who despite numerous opportunities never managed to even throw 10 TD passes in a season.....pathetically unproductive......well it's pretty clear he is a tomato can intended to be very easily kicked over by a rookie QB. The Bills had a veteran QB in TJax on a laughably cheap contract who could have easily kept EJ on the bench and they released him for a reason............they didn't want the locker room questioning their inevitable elevation of EJ Manuel to starter in his rookie season. I don't know what their exact intention was on draft day but when they cut TJax around minicamp time they had already decided that they wanted EJ to "earn" the job at the expense of a guy in Kolb that they should have been ashamed to have even acquired and exposed to more suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Anyone who thinks that Kolb was intended to provide serious competition to EJ really must think Nix, Whaley and Marrone were complete idiots. When the guy you call competition is a critically busted up and washed out vet.....who despite numerous opportunities never managed to even throw 10 TD passes in a season.....pathetically unproductive......well it's pretty clear he is a tomato can intended to be very easily kicked over by a rookie QB. The Bills had a veteran QB in TJax on a laughably cheap contract who could have easily kept EJ on the bench and they released him for a reason............they didn't want the locker room questioning their inevitable elevation of EJ Manuel to starter in his rookie season. I don't know what their exact intention was on draft day but when they cut TJax around minicamp time they had already decided that they wanted EJ to "earn" the job at the expense of a guy in Kolb that they should have been ashamed to have even acquired and exposed to more suffering. I disliked that Kolb was the plan for competition, but he was the plan nevertheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 If the QB class is similar to 2013 when they forced a pick, you'd kill them for that too. They can't win with fans like you either way. What forced them to make that pick? Where we will be picking that value is probably going to be a safety or a wide receiver That thinking is exactly why the Bills are a QB mess. Regardless of the round other NFL teams overvalue the QB position and leave the Bills holding the safety. Round 1, round 2, round 3...doesn't matter. Until they take a QB ahead of where they have him slotted they will continue to strikeout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 What forced them to make that pick? That thinking is exactly why the Bills are a QB mess. Regardless of the round other NFL teams overvalue the QB position and leave the Bills holding the safety. Round 1, round 2, round 3...doesn't matter. Until they take a QB ahead of where they have him slotted they will continue to strikeout. The Bills are not a QB mess Mr post#171. Evidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 The Bills are not a QB mess Mr post#171. Evidence? 1/8/2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Until they take a QB ahead of where they have him slotted they will continue to strikeout. Hey its me EJ Manuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 The Bills are not a QB mess Mr post#171. Evidence?Seriously? Is your name John? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) What forced them to make that pick? That thinking is exactly why the Bills are a QB mess. Regardless of the round other NFL teams overvalue the QB position and leave the Bills holding the safety. Round 1, round 2, round 3...doesn't matter. Until they take a QB ahead of where they have him slotted they will continue to strikeout. Buddy Nix's desire to find a "franchise" QB. If it don't fit, don't force it. Edited November 27, 2016 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Seriously? Is your name John? Come on now fergie.....dont be jaded that there is more then one that feels the same way on this subject. You have plenty of NNN's to pat you on the back. Cripple kind of dug a whole there - Lets take a QB no matter where we are slotted.....and hope that its not EJ Manuel.....until that is exactly what happens because we didnt stick with the best available talent model. Im not AGAINST a qb......but I dont want to overdraft one for the sake of overdrafting one...what if Mike Williams from Clemson is available when we pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Lol, I think I'm in the wrong thread.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Come on now fergie.....dont be jaded that there is more then one that feels the same way on this subject. You have plenty of NNN's to pat you on the back. Cripple kind of dug a whole there - Lets take a QB no matter where we are slotted.....and hope that its not EJ Manuel.....until that is exactly what happens because we didnt stick with the best available talent model. Im not AGAINST a qb......but I dont want to overdraft one for the sake of overdrafting one...what if Mike Williams from Clemson is available when we pick? Johnny - if you choose to wallow in mediocrity with Thurmanator, that's your choice. As for me and the other 98.5 percent of Bills fans, we'll wait for our front office to get "lucky". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Johnny - if you choose to wallow in mediocrity with Thurmanator, that's your choice. As for me and the other 98.5 percent of Bills fans, we'll wait for our front office to get "lucky". Have you seen the poll on who the qb should be? You are obviously not in the majority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Have you seen the poll on who the qb should be? You are obviously not in the majority Are you really using a TBD poll to help your case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Are you really using a TBD poll to help your case? should i not? It is in fact a poll of the fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Hey its me EJ Manuel and then you do it again and again and again until you get it right.The only reason Manuel was drafted by the Bills is because they botched years and years of finding an able QB. Because they failed they should stop drafting QBs. Great plan there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 should i not? It is in fact a poll of the fans? It is a poll of homers, like you. Because the realistic fans end up getting banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) It is a poll of homers, like you. Because the realistic fans end up getting banned. oh....ok lol What a lame lame arguement....but why should be any different then any other take you have had dont like the goalposts? You just move them Edited November 27, 2016 by John from Hemet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 oh....ok lol What a lame lame arguement....but why should be any different then any other take you have had dont like the goalposts? You just move them THere's no moving this goalpost .... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFL_franchise_post-season_droughts#Playoff_game_victory_droughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 THere's no moving this goalpost .... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFL_franchise_post-season_droughts#Playoff_game_victory_droughts Completely changing the subject is not moving the goalposts? I will slow down if you need me to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Completely changing the subject is not moving the goalposts? I will slow down if you need me to Oh, I'm sorry. Let me get back to the original post. Back when the Bills had a receiver who would go over the middle (Andre Reed) and sacrifice his body to catch accurate passes from his QB (Jim Kelly), the Bills were a good football team. Now ... we have Sammy Watkins who is "too hurt to play," until we play the 2nd worst team in the league .... in actuality he doesn't want to play because he's got a QB who is more likely to get him killed than he is to get him an accurate pass anywhere other that the sidelines. Meanwhile, because of the inaccurate, schitty QB and the "elite" wide receiver who will only play when he's 100% healthy .. our Bills suck complete ass. Move that goalpost, homer boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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