section122 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Well at least 1 of them made the right decision as Battle will be returning! http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2017/03/tyus_battle_definitely_returning_to_syracuse_basketball_next_season.html If he gets drafted anywhere in the first round it's the right decision for him. Guaranteed $2 mil. If NBA doesn't work out, he can go play in Europe. Finish school after he's done playing ball and has some money in the bank.I'm certain that Tyler Ennis doesn't regret the $5 mil he's going to have made by the end of this year. Also pretty sure Malachi doesn't mind getting paid to play NBA ball right now either. I get the idea but I just disagree. With the wage scale in the NBA players don't get paid until their 2nd and 3rd contracts (if they get there) and they are percentage increases. It behooves all of these guys to go as high as possible in the draft. Lydon right now is hoping to go at the end of the first. If he stayed and went were Kamisky went (I know white on white comp but I think it fits well - Kamisky was better than Lydon is right now) he would make much more money. Here is a good link for more info If someone gets picked 11th they make 6.4 in the first 3 years. 21st like Malachi is only 4 million. Never mind if they drop out of the first which Lydon certainly could do and then there is no guaranteed money. Making 5 million is cool but shortsighted. Players have to be looking at earning that second contract. That takes players from rich to set for life. I'm not upset and I get the idea of leaving if you know you can I just don't think it is smart. Dion Waiters, Melo, Wes Johnson, MCW, even Jonny Flynn made the right call because they were lottery picks. This is where I agree with your point even if I think Waiters and Flynn could have made themselves better by staying. Donte Greene, Paul Harris, Devendorf, Ennis, Richardson (especially him - best of this bunch imo and probably a top 10 pick this year), Chris McCullough (you forget about him? I did lol) all should have continued playing college ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Well at least 1 of them made the right decision as Battle will be returning! http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2017/03/tyus_battle_definitely_returning_to_syracuse_basketball_next_season.html I get the idea but I just disagree. With the wage scale in the NBA players don't get paid until their 2nd and 3rd contracts (if they get there) and they are percentage increases. It behooves all of these guys to go as high as possible in the draft. Lydon right now is hoping to go at the end of the first. If he stayed and went were Kamisky went (I know white on white comp but I think it fits well - Kamisky was better than Lydon is right now) he would make much more money. Here is a good link for more info If someone gets picked 11th they make 6.4 in the first 3 years. 21st like Malachi is only 4 million. Never mind if they drop out of the first which Lydon certainly could do and then there is no guaranteed money. Making 5 million is cool but shortsighted. Players have to be looking at earning that second contract. That takes players from rich to set for life. I'm not upset and I get the idea of leaving if you know you can I just don't think it is smart. Dion Waiters, Melo, Wes Johnson, MCW, even Jonny Flynn made the right call because they were lottery picks. This is where I agree with your point even if I think Waiters and Flynn could have made themselves better by staying. Donte Greene, Paul Harris, Devendorf, Ennis, Richardson (especially him - best of this bunch imo and probably a top 10 pick this year), Chris McCullough (you forget about him? I did lol) all should have continued playing college ball. I thought jerami grant should have stayed but he proved me wrong in regards to money anyway (still think he would have been a better player in the NBA if he stayed one more year and thus made more over the long run) McCullough I think has earned a decent wage too but out him in the same boat as grant, lydon would be lucky to get where they are of now, he stays another year then he'd be on grant and McCullough level and senior year he'd have a potential for a lottery pick imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Will Syracuse get a comp pick in 2017-18 with Lydon leaving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Will Syracuse get a comp pick in 2017-18 with Lydon leaving? It's a comp scholarship! Get it right! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 It's a comp scholarship! Get it right! Lol JB better stop getting commits from these 2017 kids, or we won't get a comp scholly in 2018! Jeebus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Lydon left? He looked better last year too. Career suicide or something wrong at SU or both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 JB better stop getting commits from these 2017 kids, or we won't get a comp scholly in 2018! Jeebus! He is too old fashioned and doesn't understand what it is to play the game nowadays! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 I thought jerami grant should have stayed but he proved me wrong in regards to money anyway (still think he would have been a better player in the NBA if he stayed one more year and thus made more over the long run) McCullough I think has earned a decent wage too but out him in the same boat as grant, lydon would be lucky to get where they are of now, he stays another year then he'd be on grant and McCullough level and senior year he'd have a potential for a lottery pick imo Forgot all about about Grant. Man so much talent missed with these guys leaving early for the check! I hope Lydon comes back but won't hold my breath. At least he hasn't signed with an Agent yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Forgot all about about Grant. Man so much talent missed with these guys leaving early for the check! I hope Lydon comes back but won't hold my breath. At least he hasn't signed with an Agent yet. That's what I said regarding Lydon, others said in this thread that he did sign with an agent..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 That's what I said regarding Lydon, others said in this thread that he did sign with an agent..... I saw that he was going to but as of today he hasn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 I saw that he was going to but as of today he hasn't Don't you go getting my hopes up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 I saw that he was going to but as of today he hasn't There has been conflicting information released. I'm assuming he did sign with an agent because JB mentioned it in his presser. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 "It's always their decision whether they should go," Boeheim said. "You don't have to agree with it, but you do have to support that decision. I'll be very happy for him because he's a great kid." Boeheim said most college coaches believe that if a player is not bound for the NBA lottery, he should return to school if he's capable of reaching that coveted and lucrative spot in the draft. "I know he can be," Boeheim said, "and that's what I told him. I think that's a better way to go to the NBA and make more money. They draft you high, they play you. Half the picks between 20 and 30 are out of the league within three years. But again, it comes down to what he thinks, what he wants to do. I'm just grateful he's given us the two years he's given us. He's been a huge part of our team." Syracuse basketball coach Jim Boeheim said he spoke with Orange sophomore Tyler Lydon at 1 p.m. Monday. At that point, Boeheim said, Lydon had not signed with an agent, which would end his college eligibility. http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2017/03/jim_boeheim_spoke_today_withtyler_lydon_who_said_he_hadnt_signed_with_agent.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted April 4, 2017 Author Share Posted April 4, 2017 Lydon is falling out of first round projections....wonder if that will impact his hiring an agent. Based on the rumors we have read here, wonder if he has any bridges left, sounds like he may have burned a couple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Lydon is falling out of first round projections....wonder if that will impact his hiring an agent. Based on the rumors we have read here, wonder if he has any bridges left, sounds like he may have burned a couple Well if he was rumored to have beef with Gillon, he wont have to worry about that as Gillon is gone, but if he was smart he would return for another season and get that first round grade. If Thompson can figure out how to defend the middle of the zone, a core of Battle Lydon and Thompson would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 My gut tells me that Lydon is too proud to come crawling back here with his tail between his legs after his big announcement. That said, I am surprised he hasn't hired an agent after all the reports that he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greybeard Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 I'm confused. I thought he was gone. Of course I still haven't seen that he signed. http://www.armchairallamericans.com/tyler-lydon-says-farewell-syracuse-hello-nba/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2017/04/autograph_session_means_tyler_lydon_wont_return_to_syracuse.html Looks like Lydon is officially gone. We can close the book on this one. Good luck, Tyler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted April 5, 2017 Author Share Posted April 5, 2017 throwing away his college career for what? $60 and Utica for christs sake????? http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2017/04/autograph_session_means_tyler_lydon_wont_return_to_syracuse.htmlLooks like Lydon is officially gone. We can close the book on this one. Good luck, Tyler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 throwing away his college career for what? $60 and Utica for christs sake????? cha ching!!! In all seriousness, I have got to think he can easily back out of this. The fact is that everyone who is going will be going to get GMac's authograph, not Lydon's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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