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Debate: Round I - 26 Sept 20:00 EST on Fox

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Debate Round I  

40 members have voted

  1. 1. Who won

    • Clinton
      23
    • Trump
      17

  2. 2. Did the first debate affect your vote

    • Yes - I was leaning Trump but am now leaning Clinton
      2
    • Yes - I was leaning Clinton but am now leaning Trump
      0
    • Yes - I was leaning Clinton but am now leaning 3rd Party
      0
    • Yes - I was leaning Trump but am now leaning 3rd Party
      0
    • Yes - I was leaning 3rd Party but am now leaning Clinton
      2
    • Yes - I was leaning 3rd Party but am now leaning Trump
      2
    • No - I was leaning Clinton and still am
      7
    • No - I was leaning Trump and still am
      15
    • No - I was leaning 3rd Party and still am
      12

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Magox Hall of Famer

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95% have their minds made up who they are voting for. A debate result isn't going to change their mind.

 

5% have their mind made up, but lie about it to impress people with their intellectualism and open-mindedness.

 

Debates at this stage are useless.

 

 

Your point has merit but it doesn't quite work like that. You may have 95% or some number somewhere thereabouts, who would primarily vote for the D or R depending on their past loyalties, however you have a number of voters who are inclined to support a particular party who won't vote or may vote third party because they aren't energized enough to vote for that particular candidate.

 

Hillary hasn't energized the Obama coalition to pull away from Trump, whereas Trump has energized his base, albeit it is a much smaller swath of potential voters than the Obama coalition, but it appears these folks are going to turnout in high numbers.

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No, Progressives Don’t Want Fair Debate Fact Checks
by David French
Read more at: http://www.nationalr...ate-fact-checks
"assistance" from MSNBC
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"sell her presidency" ?.....................Uh, I think that's what many voters are worried about.

 

 

 

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I find this genre of advice annoying. Then I remember we've become a shallow country and overvalue illusion of authenticity

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Reminder for tonight

 

 

Let’s face it, we’re being forced to live through this ridiculous bizarro world info-stream of media gaslighting, while simultaneously accommodating the delusions of Park Row journalists, and their taxpayer funded co-conspirators in DC.

 

To wit:

…The importance and value of the Trump-Clinton presidential debate will be directly proportional to the media’s ability to declare Hillary Clinton the winner…

 

 

If Clinton does poorly, debates don’t matter. If Clinton does well, nothing has ever been more important in the history of all presidential campaigns than debates.

 

Replace the name Clinton with Trump above, and you can just reverse the valuation. Trump does good, debates don’t matter. Trump does poorly, debates are the bees knees.

 

These are the expressed media rules of the narrative going into the debate tonight. If Hillary remains standing and doesn’t cough out her wandering left eye into her custom glass of thick water – she’ll be declared the winner by a scale only comparable to North Korean election results….

 

 

As a consequence, there’s no need to get too emotionally invested in the valuation of this debate. In addition, despite the media proclamations, there’s only a tiny fraction of the electorate in the undecided column. Like a teensy number; less than 1%.

 

Every voter who will turn up to the polls on November 8th has already picked a side. Historically speaking, what happens tonight will not change that equation one iota – every single prior “debate bounce“, or lack thereof, has never lasted more than 10 days for any candidate.

 

Remember, there are trillions of dollars at stake. Moderator Lester Holt has already been given Candy Crowley’s immunity goblet, the debate construct is necessarily in the hands of Team Parkinsons, and the seal clappers are in their assigned seats.

 

The debate becomes more enjoyable if you remove anxiety from the equation.

 

Again I ask: …if candidate Donald Trump showed up to the debate in 6″ stilettos a Carmen Miranda hat and began twerking the lectern of Hillary Clinton would it change your vote?

 

 

See, there’s nothing to lose.

 

 

The same applies to the other side of the stage: if candidate Hillary Clinton froze, said: “bulldog pancake sailhouse”, grabbed the lectern and gave the national audience her best Michael J Fox impersonation, she’d still get 40% of the vote.

 

 

 

 

Think about it.

 

 

 

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/09/26/just-another-pre-debate-perspective-to-consider/#more-122258

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Reminder for tonight

 

 

 

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The same applies to the other side of the stage: if candidate Hillary Clinton froze, said: “bulldog pancake sailhouse”, grabbed the lectern and gave the national audience her best Michael J Fox impersonation, she’d still get 40% of the vote.

 

 

I would pay good money to see that happen.

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It'll be interesting to see if Lester Holt still has a career by 11pm tonight. I don't understand why he agreed to be a moderator of this debate. He doesn't have the gravitas of Tom Brokaw. He can easily disappear just like Candy Crowley did.

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PODIUM ADVANTAGE...

 

I'm surprised she didn't ask for a chair and a cushion.

 

She has, however, already begun crying foul.

 

Clinton team: It's not fair that Clinton has to debate Donald Trump AND fact check him.

 

It's not fair, you guys, so you better stop being mean to the old lady or she'll go all Ruth Buzzi on you with her purse.

 

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PODIUM ADVANTAGE...

 

I'm surprised she didn't ask for a chair and a cushion.

 

She has, however, already begun crying foul.

 

Clinton team: It's not fair that Clinton has to debate Donald Trump AND fact check him.

 

It's not fair, you guys, so you better stop being mean to the old lady or she'll go all Ruth Buzzi on you with her purse.

 

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Anything that keeps people's attention away from the big serious problems that face our country is good for Clinton and the left.

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