Nihilarian Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Don't tell what to do mister ! What happened to the Defense? Bad choices or poorly allocated finances ? If you honestly want some real insight into what happened to the 2015 Ravens then read this, http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-anatomy-of-baltimores-lost-season/ "It’s hard to take too much issue with what the Ravens do in football operations, given how consistently successful Harbaugh and Ozzie Newsome have been over the past decade. After an unlucky 1-5 start, though, a disappointing defense and some poorly timed injuries appear to have sunk the Ravens in 2015." Fans thinking that the team has suddenly become a bad team or are thinking that the 2016 season opener is going to be a cakewalk have it all wrong IMO. Last season only two of eleven starters played a full 16 games on offense and five of sixteen starters on defense. That was a crapstorm of injuries last year. Even at 5-11, only three teams beat that 2015 Ravens team by more than 7 points all season and those games were all at the end of the year. Seattle, KC and Cincy and they still managed to beat a 10-6 Pittsburgh team in week 16 and that was with Ryan Mallett starting at QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Even at 5-11, only three teams beat that 2015 Ravens team by more than 7 points all season and those games were all at the end of the year. Seattle, KC and Cincy and they still managed to beat a 10-6 Pittsburgh team in week 16 and that was with Ryan Mallett starting at QB. And Cincy was only 8 points - it was within 1 score. They lost 9 of 11 by one score or less. The Ravens is a very tough start to the season for Buffalo. If we win that game we will be looking at a good season to my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Irony: Parsing Ravens losses is okay but doing the same with Bills losses is pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 If you honestly want some real insight into what happened to the 2015 Ravens then read this, http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-anatomy-of-baltimores-lost-season/ "It’s hard to take too much issue with what the Ravens do in football operations, given how consistently successful Harbaugh and Ozzie Newsome have been over the past decade. After an unlucky 1-5 start, though, a disappointing defense and some poorly timed injuries appear to have sunk the Ravens in 2015." Fans thinking that the team has suddenly become a bad team or are thinking that the 2016 season opener is going to be a cakewalk have it all wrong IMO. Last season only two of eleven starters played a full 16 games on offense and five of sixteen starters on defense. That was a crapstorm of injuries last year. Even at 5-11, only three teams beat that 2015 Ravens team by more than 7 points all season and those games were all at the end of the year. Seattle, KC and Cincy and they still managed to beat a 10-6 Pittsburgh team in week 16 and that was with Ryan Mallett starting at QB. Thanks for the Barnwell link. Not a happy read, but pretty thorough considering the date written. And Cincy was only 8 points - it was within 1 score. They lost 9 of 11 by one score or less. The Ravens is a very tough start to the season for Buffalo. If we win that game we will be looking at a good season to my mind. A very very interesting matchup indeed ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Trade the future for the past? Who wouldn't do that? Since you're peering into a crystal ball, how about the Mega Millions numbers. Kthx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Irony: Parsing Ravens losses is okay but doing the same with Bills losses is pathetic. One team has success this decade,one doesn't. Is it really this difficult to understand ? http://vimeo.com/30460289 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Irony: Parsing Ravens losses is okay but doing the same with Bills losses is pathetic. Is it ironic that you mention irony when you don't understand the title and the point of this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 One team has success this decade,one doesn't. Is it really this difficult to understand ? http://vimeo.com/30460289 I understand perfectly. If it fits your narrative, it's okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 I think we are done here. This is worse than arguing with my exes. My narrative AKA reality is wrong. Ravens decade = good, until PTR forgets and rewrites history with emotions. Good day sir, until the next Tyrod thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 I think we are done here. This is worse than arguing with my exes. My narrative AKA reality is wrong. Ravens decade = good, until PTR forgets and rewrites history with emotions. Good day sir, until the next Tyrod thread. If they play the Bills this season, they are overrated and suck. Get with the program dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 If they play the Bills this season, they are overrated and suck. Get with the program dude. I go to Baltimore often. Great stadium, great fanbase, nice atmosphere. Great home record, great playoff record. Aside from that they suck I guess. On To week 1. I'll be there, hope we can sneak out a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 I go to Baltimore often. Great stadium, great fanbase, nice atmosphere. Great home record, great playoff record. Aside from that they suck I guess. On To week 1. I'll be there, hope we can sneak out a win. Yep. Anyone who thinks the Ravens will be pushovers this year, or that the opener in Baltimore will be an easy win for Buffalo, is deluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Paying average QB's stupid money is a good way to screw up your franchise. I know when I ruin franchises, I like to win Superbowls. It is good to know that it's not even 3 years after a Superbowl win that your franchise is ruined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) Yep. Anyone who thinks the Ravens will be pushovers this year, or that the opener in Baltimore will be an easy win for Buffalo, is deluded. I worry about this game. and i worry about the Jets. On any Sunday is very true. But Ravens have a great program and it should be quite the chess match between Coaches Edited July 5, 2016 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 What we should be doing is thanking the heavens that Baltimore drafted, cultivated, groomed, and let go our Pro Bowl "Ranked number 1 in the NFL offseason aquisition" by ESPN At a very cap friend contract Starting QB Thanks Baltimore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 It's an interesting side by side comparison of Baltimore and Buffalo. Over the last 3 years, they've both averaged finishing third in their respective divisions. Both teams have won exactly 23 games over that timeframe. The Ravens best year (2014) was better than the Bills best year (2015), but their worst year (2015) was worse than the Bills worst year (2013). Regardless of all that and whether one makes the argument that the Bills are getting younger while the Ravens are getting older, opening day home teams have gone 29-19 in the last 3 years combined.So one other thing I looked at is how the eventual playoff teams of each season fare in week 1. Collectively, they have gone 22-14 over the three seasons combined, with 10 of those 22 games being won on the road. I won't go far as to saying that the opening day road game against Baltimore is a must win, but the Bills-Jets game in week 2 would certainly become so, should that happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 It's an interesting side by side comparison of Baltimore and Buffalo. Over the last 3 years, they've both averaged finishing third in their respective divisions. Both teams have won exactly 23 games over that timeframe. The Ravens best year (2014) was better than the Bills best year (2015), but their worst year (2015) was worse than the Bills worst year (2013). Regardless of all that and whether one makes the argument that the Bills are getting younger while the Ravens are getting older, opening day home teams have gone 29-19 in the last 3 years combined. So one other thing I looked at is how the eventual playoff teams of each season fare in week 1. Collectively, they have gone 22-14 over the three seasons combined, with 10 of those 22 games being won on the road. I won't go far as to saying that the opening day road game against Baltimore is a must win, but the Bills-Jets game in week 2 would certainly become so, should that happen. Painfully good post. We have some odds to overcome it seems Luxy ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 The Bills best year was 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 I know when I ruin franchises, I like to win Superbowls. It is good to know that it's not even 3 years after a Superbowl win that your franchise is ruined. Yep all down hill after paying a stupid contract to a mediocre QB. Doing so makes your former Super Bowl winning team garbage as we will see week 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 We have a very real shot at 3-1 in September. Most predictable loss is AZ, but my boys and I are flying up for it anyway. None are gimme wins, nor absolute losses. We need it as the schedule gets tougher in the later months. Let's see if all of this improved defense, TT eyes, gelling of the team is true or BS. FLR NOW, I'll enjoy my kook-aid as I hate to have nothing to look forward to this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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