sodbuster Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Oh boy, speculation based on discredited speculation. September get here soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Ok, in the other thread on this exact same topic, I said the Ryans are delusional. But there is no way they are this out of touch reality---to think that if the season goes in the tank, the Pegulas are going to keep them...and let them dictate the new GM?? This is awesome stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Im really not understanding the "stab Whaley in the back" thing Could explain further on this? Sure no problem. Even Ryan will be able to understand it. In the original post of this thread the text below was written as part : ESPN seemed to think that if push comes to shove that the Ryans will stick together (they are very close after all) and overtake Whaley if need be in order to stay employed with the Bills and then eventually usher in THEIR choice for the new Bills' GM job. The next post was you saying I dont have a problem with any of this Now don't get me wrong, I know the original quote is some baloney ESPN made up but you still wrote you would not have a problem with any of it. I would have thought that just about anyone would have a problem with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Ok, in the other thread on this exact same topic, I said the Ryans are delusional. But there is no way they are this out of touch reality---to think that if the season goes in the tank, the Pegulas are going to keep them...and let them dictate the new GM?? This is awesome stuff. I think Whaley is safe and Rex is not....which is why Rex is gonna do it his way this year all the way Sure no problem. Even Ryan will be able to understand it. In the original post of this thread the text below was written as part : The next post was you saying Now don't get me wrong, I know the original quote is some baloney ESPN made up but you still wrote you would not have a problem with any of it. I would have thought that just about anyone would have a problem with that. No...I asked you to expand on why Whaley is getting a knife in the back. You have not answered that question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 No...I asked you to expand on why Whaley is getting a knife in the back. You have not answered that question. No offense but if I have to explain this again, apparently you can't read. The original post made a reference to Whaley getting stabbed in the back. You immediately posted that you would not have a problem with anything in the post. You gave a vague answer to my first question, which was a little vague itself, so I made my question more specific. Go back and re-read the thread. Maybe you just missed the Whaley part in the OP before you responded to not having a problem with it. Now do I think Ryan would do this to Whaley? Not really. I think ESPN made it up. But it is in the OP and you said you had no problem with the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 No offense but if I have to explain this again, apparently you can't read. The original post made a reference to Whaley getting stabbed in the back. You immediately posted that you would not have a problem with anything in the post. You gave a vague answer to my first question, which was a little vague itself, so I made my question more specific. Go back and re-read the thread. Maybe you just missed the Whaley part in the OP before you responded to not having a problem with it. Now do I think Ryan would do this to Whaley? Not really. I think ESPN made it up. But it is in the OP and you said you had no problem with the OP. What makes you think that Whaley is getting stabbed in the back? Do you have anything specific you can point to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 No offense but if I have to explain this again, apparently you can't read. The original post made a reference to Whaley getting stabbed in the back. You immediately posted that you would not have a problem with anything in the post. You gave a vague answer to my first question, which was a little vague itself, so I made my question more specific. Go back and re-read the thread. Maybe you just missed the Whaley part in the OP before you responded to not having a problem with it. Now do I think Ryan would do this to Whaley? Not really. I think ESPN made it up. But it is in the OP and you said you had no problem with the OP. by my count you made TWO references to Whaley getting stabbed in the back in this thread...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 If the Bills miss the playoffs because of the defense the Ryans are gone. If they finish less than 500 everybody is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 by my count you made TWO references to Whaley getting stabbed in the back in this thread...... The second one was a repeat after you didn't understand it the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 The second one was a repeat after you didn't understand it the first time. I still dont And your not answer the question even though multiple people are asking it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanOverChin Posted May 27, 2016 Author Share Posted May 27, 2016 What I got from the ESPN conversation is that there is the possibility that IF things go bad for the Bills this year that Whaley and the Ryans would be in survival mode with each blaming the other for the losing season in hopes that one group would be retained instead of BOTH groups being dismissed. It would become a power struggle of sorts at a certain point in the season. This kind of thing happens a lot when a high profile HC is involved. I remember when B. Cowher and T. Donahoe had their power struggle. The Rooneys eventually entrusted Cowher with both the GM and HC duties. There comes a point in time when a high profile HC realizes that he can't win if he isn't able to acquire the type of players that he desires. When a GM and HC don't work towards the same goal (i.e. the GM doesn't totally believe in what the HC is doing) then that doesn't always happen. However, it appears to me that Whaley is doing everything that he can to help Ryan obtain the players he needs. In fact, it seems to me that Ryan is telling Whaley what to do and Whaley is trying to fulfill his every want. The problem they have is that as a team they have not managed the salary cap very well AND have built the team ass-backwards. They should have worked to acquire a franchise QB as a top priority either through the draft or by trade. Instead, they have tried to fill every other position first and then paid many of those players very handsomely. Now they have to hope and even stake their own jobs on a lower level player like T. Taylor being able to carry the team on his shoulders in 2016 and beyond. It wasn't the best plan and if Taylor doesn't produce this year both Whaley and Ryan could find themselves out of a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 From what I heard on ESPN radio this morning it sounds as though ESPN believes that Rex and Rob Ryan are planning to espouse their control of the Bills this season. This all stems from the fact that Vic Carruci reported back in January 2015 that the Pegulas issued an ultimatum to both Whaley and Rex Ryan that either they get the Bills into the playoffs in 2016 or they will both be fired. The implication is that Rex is now "all in" meaning that if he is going to go down then he is going to go down "his way". "His way" means that Rex is going to surround himself with people who believe in him as a HC and in his defensive philosophy. He has added Ed Reed and vet DC Rob Ryan already, which fortifies that thought. He has also let guys like star player DE Mar. Williams fly the coup because they were not "all in". He seems seriously pissed at Mario for the way that he behaved last year. ESPN seemed to think that if push comes to shove that the Ryans will stick together (they are very close after all) and overtake Whaley if need be in order to stay employed with the Bills and then eventually usher in THEIR choice for the new Bills' GM job. It will certainly be interesting to see how this all plays out. Of course, winning solves all. Everyone but Boyst is pissed at Mario I hate to be a naysayer. I'm really trying to find a hint of optimism. But reading that just made me feel like this team is going to be a 4-win team (after 17 weeks, not 4). I don't see this as good news. At all. all part of the roguetank plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 I still dont And your not answer the question even though multiple people are asking it Are you for real? THE VERY FIRST POST IN THIS THREAD SAID: ESPN seemed to think that if push comes to shove that the Ryans will stick together (they are very close after all) and overtake Whaley if need be in order to stay employed with the Bills and then eventually usher in THEIR choice for the new Bills' GM job. You immediately replied to that saying you had no problem with it. Do you understand now? Other things that may need further explaining: 2+2 = 4 The sky is blue Water is wet What makes you think that Whaley is getting stabbed in the back? Do you have anything specific you can point to? I'll research that and get back to you. I don't know where to start. Maybe I'll go to the top of this thread or the UFO thread. How's the badminton tourney going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) Are you for real? THE VERY FIRST POST IN THIS THREAD SAID: You immediately replied to that saying you had no problem with it. Do you understand now? Other things that may need further explaining: 2+2 = 4 The sky is blue Water is wet I'll research that and get back to you. I don't know where to start. Maybe I'll go to the top of this thread or the UFO thread. How's the badminton tourney going? I know you think your making sense....but your really not. why do you think its proper for two different people to ask you the same question.....but the answer to each different one should be different? Edited May 27, 2016 by John from Hemet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 I know you think your making sense....but your really not. In which province is Hemet located? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 In which province is Hemet located? What does that have to do with the question you have been asked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 What does that have to do with the question you have been asked? I'm just trying to re-asses the level that I'm dealing with. I'm guessing Manitoba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 First the Buffalo Bills then....The World arghhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 why do you think its proper for two different people to ask you the same question.....but the answer to each different one should be different? This cannot be real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 I'm just trying to re-asses the level that I'm dealing with. I'm guessing Manitoba. You do realize that your mostly here for comic relief right? You cannot assess other poster's when your drinking juice box from the kiddie table yourself....your only hope is that can keep up...... You take snip its out of other peoples posts and twist them (attempt to....cuz your not very good at it and its too obvious) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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