CommonCents Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Pre-injury Sidney Jones was by CB1 in this draft. I can't go all-in on a guy with an Achilles injury--the RTP rate (return to previous performance rate) for Achilles injuries is less than 70%--prior to Round 3 in a draft as strong at the CB position as this one. I'm with yah, just hoping he had something to protect himself financially. I did a little research and it seems no one knows if he had a policy like then ones we heard about with Jack, Jaylon Smith. If he drops from 15th overall to the third round that's 7-8 million in guaranteed money that will be lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 21, 2017 Author Share Posted March 21, 2017 @AdamStites_ Just getting started here at the UCLA Pro Day today. Bills GM Doug Whaley among the NFL personnel. @ChrisTrapasso Chris Trapasso Retweeted Adam Stites A few interesting UCLA prospects in this draft, but I assume #Bills GM Doug Whaley is closely watching crafty/skilled zone CB Fabian Moreau. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 yes actually both are smart, humble kids from NE ohio. Conley was a captain. He's better than our guy Eli Apple who went 10th overall last year, that's for sure. I respect that you have watched these guys every weeks through their college careers Yolo I really do.... but I disagree strongly that Conley is better than Apple in terms of the traits I look for in a pro cornerback. And you will recall I was the one last year saying don't be surprised if Apple sneaks into the top 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Is it me or is Johnson one of the most un-coordinated "top" prospects in recent memory at tackle? Personally I would try Robinson and Dawkins at tackle, then move them inside if need be, with Dawkins imo being a better guard prospect then tackle, but a capable tackle prospect to start with. Peppers hype train is rolling, practical application? indeed... I really don't see the hype with Johnson. Okay, he's really big, that's about it. He's like Le'Raven Clark where his length is actually a net negative because arms that long need a tight, compact punch and he doesn't have that. Lacks functional strength and bulk, get destroyed by a safety body playing edge vs Ole Miss. I have a hard time believing pro scouts look at his tape and think he's top-75 material. Robinson is definitely a tackle for me and I think Dawkins' issues get worse when you put him inside so I'd play him at RT in a heartbeat. Had a quick chat with Dion after the Combine and OG definitely seems to be the way he's getting evaluated but he likes my passion for keeping him outside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp2Warlick Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 #UCLA CB Fabian Moreau suffered what's believed to be a pectoral injury during the bench press today. Full injury extent not clear yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 #UCLA CB Fabian Moreau suffered what's believed to be a pectoral injury during the bench press today. Full injury extent not clear yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Jesus, CB's dropping like flies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P51 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 I really don't see the hype with Johnson. Okay, he's really big, that's about it. He's like Le'Raven Clark where his length is actually a net negative because arms that long need a tight, compact punch and he doesn't have that. Lacks functional strength and bulk, get destroyed by a safety body playing edge vs Ole Miss. I have a hard time believing pro scouts look at his tape and think he's top-75 material. Robinson is definitely a tackle for me and I think Dawkins' issues get worse when you put him inside so I'd play him at RT in a heartbeat. Had a quick chat with Dion after the Combine and OG definitely seems to be the way he's getting evaluated but he likes my passion for keeping him outside I'm with you on Johnson, I have 5th or 6th (?) developmental grade on him. What in particular do you think Dawkins issues are that gets worse at guard? Your passion is contagious.... 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 I'm with you on Johnson, I have 5th or 6th (?) developmental grade on him. What in particular do you think Dawkins issues are that gets worse at guard? Your passion is contagious.... I think his hands need to be a little sharper. My biggest concern is that DT's will be on him quicker so not striking quickly will be a bigger issue than on the edge. Also wanted to strengthen his core a little more to help him sustain blocks. From what I can tell, he's been working on that so he should be okay. Had some concerns with his arrest (along with Reddick) but he's a lovely dude. Takes notice when you tweet about him, good and bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Im pretty sure Whaley had that same reaction since he's there (probably to see him) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 (edited) Man, going from a deep CB class to shallow pretty quickly. At least with the pec injury, he should eventually fully recover. The Achilles for Jones might be a career limiter. I know I am in the minority here, but I think bargains can be had with drafting injured players later than they would have gone healthy. I see the draft as a long-term investment and I don't care if a player misses part or even all of their rookie season recovering - provided that the point that they were drafted represents a significant discount to their "healthy rating". As others have said, if the prospects for Sidney Jones to make a full recovery are good, I would be happy if they were able to nab him in round 3 - even if he misses this whole season. Edited March 21, 2017 by OldTimer1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 @adamstites_ Jim Mora says Fabian Moreau's injury is being evaluated but called it minor and says he doesn't believe it's anything serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 @adamstites_ Jim Mora says Fabian Moreau's injury is being evaluated but called it minor and says he doesn't believe it's anything serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Bills Spotlight coming up right now on NFLN "Path to the draft" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Bucky Brooks drafted Mike Williams and Budda Baker in first 2 rounds. Interestingly, he said MW would be the #1WR alongside Sammy (2) and Holmes (3). He said Baker can play CB or Safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Bucky Brooks drafted Mike Williams and Budda Baker in first 2 rounds. Interestingly, he said MW would be the #1WR alongside Sammy (2) and Holmes (3). He said Baker can play CB or Safety. I don't believe anyone that studies tape would say that Williams would be the number one over Watkins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 I don't believe anyone that studies tape would say that Williams would be the number one over Watkins.it was the first time I had ever heard anyone take that angle... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 I don't believe anyone that studies tape would say that Williams would be the number one over Watkins.FWIW, I have a friend that is a Clemson alum and follows them like we do the Bills. He thinks that Mike Williams is a better prospect than Hopkins and Watkins (he actually preferred Hopkins coming out). I don't know if I buy that but but he watches them much closer than I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 I believe Dabo also said that ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 FWIW, I have a friend that is a Clemson alum and follows them like we do the Bills. He thinks that Mike Williams is a better prospect than Hopkins and Watkins (he actually preferred Hopkins coming out). I don't know if I buy that but but he watches them much closer than I do.I don't see it. Sammy is just so, so talented. A special talent. I like Williams, but I don't see any where near the level of overall ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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