Jauronimo Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: Don't get so emotional there, chief. I haven't created any opinions for you. My posts regarding you have been straight forward and factual. Nothing says you are right like hurling insults.... The insults started around page 325. You'll never guess who cast the first stone, chief.
jrober38 Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Magox said: Who gives a flying flip if you believe it's a "tiny portion" of the people out in the streets. The fact is that there have been thousands of small businesses destroyed, many law enforcement officers have been injured, some have died, communities have been destroyed, housing projects for low income folks have been torched. This is the reality! So again, you are minimizing it by saying "tiny portion". Tiny would be a few businesses, maybe one death. A few people injured. That would be tiny. Thousands of small businesses is not tiny. There are tens of thousands of people protesting around the country. If 5% of them are violent, that's a lot of people looting, hiding among the crowds, throwing bricks and rocks from a distance, and lighting things on fire when there are no cops around. These are professional protesters. A few people hiding in a massive crowd doing whatever they want without getting caught.
billsfan1959 Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: The insults started around page 325. You'll never guess who cast the first stone, chief. Sorry your feelings are hurt.... Of course, I don't believe I ever insulted you Edited June 2, 2020 by billsfan1959
Doc Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Without video evidence it takes time to actually build a case. And it took 7 months to convene a grand jury. That's a lot of prime looting and rioting, er, "protesting" time... 2 1
Dante Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 So true lol https://babylonbee.com/news/churchgoers-avoid-arrest-by-disguising-themselves-as-rioters 1 1
Warren Zevon Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: The insults started around page 325. You'll never guess who cast the first stone, chief. And he wonders why everyone he disagrees with stopped seriously engaging with him
B-Man Posted June 2, 2020 Author Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, jrober38 said: There are tens of thousands of people protesting around the country. If 5% of them are violent, that's a lot of people looting, hiding among the crowds, throwing bricks and rocks from a distance, and lighting things on fire when there are no cops around. These are professional protesters. A few people hiding in a massive crowd doing whatever they want without getting caught. That's certainly insulting to the 95%. Can't they stop the ones ruining their message...................There are a few isolated incidents I am aware, But I think your percentages are off................The majority of "protesters" are looking to riot. 2
jrober38 Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: You keep saying this; however, you never explain it. Why don't you do it now, so that nobody "twists" your words. Here is your chance to actually list substantive facts to support your position and we can have an honest debate. If I need to explain it, there's no reason to because you're obviously living under a rock. There are some open minded people on here who disagree with me on a lot of things but I can still have a good conversation with. You're not one of them if you can't see the obvious issues that affect the black community across the US.
Warren Zevon Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, B-Man said: The majority of "protesters" are looking to riot. C'mon, man. You know this is bull####. There are thousands and thousands of people marching in the streets
billsfan1959 Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Warren Zevon said: And he wonders why everyone he disagrees with stopped seriously engaging with him Oh, Warren. That hurts me. No, really.....
Buffalo_Gal Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 What politician thinks it is a good idea to organize a protest right now? That is some Grade A stupid. 2
Deranged Rhino Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, billsfan1959 said: You keep saying this; however, you never explain it. Why don't you do it now, so that nobody "twists" your words. Here is your chance to actually list substantive facts to support your position and we can have an honest debate. First, he's Canadian. So his views on this are about as relevant as my views on Canadian government. ***** him and his cowardly words. Second, he -- like all the NPCs -- are ignoring that the arc of history in this country has always bent towards justice. Our system has flaws, no one denies that. Those flaws, laws, and systemic issues take time to be addressed. Where we were in 1965 compared to 2020 is night and day. That is undeniable. It is also undeniable that the bend in this country has been towards fixing injustice, not exacerbating it. The system may be slow, but it is working. What the NPCs are calling for is burning the whole system down, a system that -- despite its flaws -- is constantly evolving towards justice. They do not have a replacement in mind, just the desire to watch the system burn. Because it will feel good. It will stoke all their virtues and make them feel as if they're helping the downtrodden. But in reality, when you burn one system without a replacement in mind, the people who get hurt the most (and most immediately) are those downtrodden folk. That's why they're going to lose. That's why their philosophy and virtue signaling rings so hollow. These people are being used, by very bad people, to push dangerous ideologies and chaos. They think they're helping their cause by doing so, but they're not. November will be very hard for a lot of people here. 3 3 2
Warren Zevon Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, jrober38 said: If I need to explain it, there's no reason to because you're obviously living under a rock. There are some open minded people on here who disagree with me on a lot of things but I can still have a good conversation with. You're not one of them if you can't see the obvious issues that affect the black community across the US. I wonder how he treats the cops on his force who stand with Black Lives Matter? Does he have as much vitriol for them as he does for the liberals on this forum?
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, bilzfancy said: This is gonna be very interesting, about time Cuomo showed he had a pair ….could be a long, long, LONG wait 'fancy...….
Magox Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, jrober38 said: There are tens of thousands of people protesting around the country. If 5% of them are violent, that's a lot of people looting, hiding among the crowds, throwing bricks and rocks from a distance, and lighting things on fire when there are no cops around. These are professional protesters. A few people hiding in a massive crowd doing whatever they want without getting caught. You are not getting it! You nor I can quantify how many are participating but what we can quantify is the actual damage that is occurring. The end result whether it was only one person or a million doesn't matter. What matters are the people injured, lives lost, businesses torched, housing projects destroyed, items stolen, people put out of work due to this (which are tens of thousands if not more), people feeling threatened and communities being destroyed. This has now hijacked what was a well-intentioned atrocious murder that was perpetuated by a heartless bastard. There was near universal agreement that something needed to be done, now because of all this crap that is happening, the focus has shifted. And rightfully so because there is a lot of tangible human suffering that is occurring because of these riots. Edited June 2, 2020 by Magox 2 1
IYKYK Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 18 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: "400 years" -- trying to reinforce the 1619 Project which is an insult to anyone with a functioning frontal lobe at best, at worst an assault on the very foundations of our nation. Are the liberals on PPP willing to bow down before black people and beg for forgiveness? If you don't, then you're a racist. 1
jrober38 Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, B-Man said: That's certainly insulting to the 95%. Can't they stop the ones ruining their message...................There are a few isolated incidents I am aware, But I think your percentages are off................The majority of "protesters" are looking to riot. I dunno, most people are going to these protests with a cardboard sign. The bad apples are going with hammers, knives and bricks. You might be right. I don't know for sure and I can admit that. I just think that if the majority of the crowds had those type of blunt weapons, there would probably be a lot more bloodshed than there has been because they'd be openly clashing with the cops. Most of what I've seen is a couple people throw rocks, cops move in with shields and batons, protesters run away to a safe distance, and then they do it all over again. If a big portion of the crowd had weapons, I think you'd see way more open combat in the streets. Again, this is based off what I've seen online. Things may very well be different.
billsfan1959 Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, jrober38 said: If I need to explain it, there's no reason to because you're obviously living under a rock. There are some open minded people on here who disagree with me on a lot of things but I can still have a good conversation with. You're not one of them if you can't see the obvious issues that affect the black community across the US. No, actually I don't live under a rock. I can easily acknowledge genuine concerns on the part of the black community and the perceptions they have. I have actually written posts to this exact point, if you care to go back and read them. I am simply asking you to specifically state what you think the problem is and what are your supporting facts? That is a fair question and an open invitation to honest dialogue. Will you accept? 1
Jauronimo Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: Sorry your feelings are hurt.... Of course, I don't believe I ever insulted you One post you're claiming some moral or gentlemanly high ground and in the next you're a tough guy who isn't concerned how his brash attitude rubs people the wrong way. How novel. F- 1
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