billsfan1959 Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, Jauronimo said: I suppose I could declare that since I have not personally witnessed you (or anyone else in this thread) denouncing the murder of innocent black men to the max or condemning police brutality to the max and strongly considering that most of your (and everyone else's) posts pertain to looters and rioters rather than the impetus for the protest in the first place, that the bad actors in the law enforcement community have your support and you are minimizing injustice and its corrosive effect on society; but I'm not going to because that is asinine and I don't believe you hold any of those views. Why don't you go back and read through this thread. Now you are just being obtuse. 1
SectionC3 Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Many places around the world defer these cased to an independent 3rd party for review, to eliminate that conflict. In NYS the AG handles.
Warren Zevon Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, B-Man said: When you're more upset about Trump standing in front of a church than arsonists setting fire to it... I'm upset with the authoritarian means in which he arrived at the specific location. All politicians have nauseating photo ops. 1
jrober38 Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said: It should be open warfare with the military involved at this point. You don’t think this is actually happening ? Tell that to the business owners whose property and livelihoods are destroyed , merchandise looted, cities desecrated, etc etc. The media narrative ( except for the real media) is trying to shape public support for the criminals. I disagree. Open warfare suggest the military can be allowed to shoot on site. That's completely insane considering how few people in these crowds are actually breaking the law. And in all seriousness, does insurance not cover this damage? I completely agree with you about the media though. As I just said, they're only focusing on the spots where the cops are clashing with protesters because they want to make it seem as though that's what is happening everywhere.
SectionC3 Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, Buffalo_Gal said: But, let's blame Trump! His comment about TV ratings is particularly salient right now. Three crises and the fearful leader is taking time to process CNN’s overnight ratings. 1
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, SectionC3 said: Fake Presbyterian and hypo-Christian Donald Trump has got you fooled, that’s for sure. Hate to break it to you, but most presbyterians are fake. The PCUSA has long abandoned anything resembling orthodoxy in Protestant belief. And this is coming from a Presbyterian. 2
billsfan1959 Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Warren Zevon said: I'm upset with the authoritarian means in which he arrived at the specific location. All politicians have nauseating photo ops. I think he walked.... 3
jrober38 Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, B-Man said: When you're more upset about Trump standing in front of a church than arsonists setting fire to it... Are we just going to ignore that the person in charge of the Church was also more upset about the photo than the attempted arson? 1 1
Reality Check Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ny-gov-cuomo-blasts-de-blasio-underestimating-problem-may-overrule-nyc-mayor-national It looks like Benito Cuomo and DeBozo are getting a divorce soon. 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: Hate to break it to you, but most presbyterians are fake. The PCUSA has long abandoned anything resembling orthodoxy in Protestant belief. And this is coming from a Presbyterian. I worked for a Presbyterian church for a few years... cannot disagree with this.
Jauronimo Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, billsfan1959 said: Why don't you go back and read through this thread. Now you are just being obtuse. Go back and read all of your responses to my posts. Count how many opinions have you falsely attributed to me based on statements you haven't seen me make.
Boatdrinks Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, jrober38 said: Are we just going to ignore that the person in charge of the Church was also more upset about the photo than the attempted arson? They’ve clearly lost their mind. That’s more upsetting than their being upset. 2
jrober38 Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, Jauronimo said: Go back and read all of your responses to my posts. Count how many opinions have you falsely attributed to me based on statements you haven't seen me make. This is all this guy does. He just puts words in everyone's mouth and twists people's arguments into whatever he wants them to be.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, jrober38 said: This is all this guy does. He just puts words in everyone's mouth and twists people's arguments into whatever he wants them to be. MILLIONSSSSSSSSSSSS 5
Chef Jim Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, Warren Zevon said: What have the rioters taken over? Nothing. But they've destroyed a lot of property. Not a good look for their cause wouldn't you agree?
billsfan1959 Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, Jauronimo said: Go back and read all of your responses to my posts. Count how many opinions have you falsely attributed to me based on statements you haven't seen me make. Everybody I have seen you respond to has openly denounced the killing of innocent people, black or otherwise. We have also openly denounced police brutality and any criminal behavior on the part of law enforcement. On the other hand, we have seen you more upset about law enforcement moving a crowd, in a non-violent manner, than you have expressed about real violence that is taking place now. 1 2
Warren Zevon Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Nothing. But they've destroyed a lot of property. Not a good look for their cause wouldn't you agree? No doubt - the rioters should be detained and charged for crimes. Not sure they have taken anything over, though, as is being suggested.
jrober38 Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Chef Jim said: Nothing. But they've destroyed a lot of property. Not a good look for their cause wouldn't you agree? This is the hard part to evaluate. The value of property vs the value of everyone being able to live freely.
billsfan1959 Posted June 2, 2020 Posted June 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, jrober38 said: This is all this guy does. He just puts words in everyone's mouth and twists people's arguments into whatever he wants them to be. This from a guy who can turn any set of facts into a pretzel...
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