Obama's Post Presidency

[Deranged Rhino]

2 minutes ago, Juror#8 said:

 

Well when you ask it that way, sure. 

 

But, as you know, you’re making declarative statements and assuming a lot of facts that aren’t in evidence. 

 

Again, I implore you to go back through and read some of the threads. Read the thread on the Iran deal, or the numerous threads on the FISA abuse or Flynn's leak killers. There is MOUNTAINS of evidence on this site and in open source. 

 

Mountains. 

 

3 minutes ago, Juror#8 said:

And that’s not to be disrespectful. It’s to say that we can say things and non sequitur our way through this with powerful inferences relying on  questionable facts to back it up. 

 

 

I don't take it as disrespect. I like your contributions to this board, we've never had a problem with one another so please know I'm coming hard at you now but that too is not meant to be disrespectful. It's because I know you don't need me to tip toe around my point. 

 

5 minutes ago, Juror#8 said:

What do you mean that I’ll find out soon enough. Interest is piqued ...

 

We are in a roll out phase right now, as I've been calling it. The rolling out of evidence over time to prepare the public consciousness for the bigger disclosures to come. We know the IG report is massive (over 1.2 million pages) and we know it has teeth as 15 people within the FBI/DOJ have already been fired, demoted, or resigned because of the findings within it. 

 

It's my contention - and some of this is provable, more will be soon - that there has been a counterintelligence operation in place since the very early days of the Trump campaign. It's being run by Military Intelligence (DIA) and was designed to flush out the corruption (CIA) in various parts of the system.

 

We are going to see indictments and prosecutions of major players over the next 36 months. Major names including Comey, Holder, Lynch, Power, Clinton, Podestas, and possibly 44 himself. The clock is already ticking. 

 

60% of the clean up is happening behind the scenes. 40% will be public.  

6 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

Okay, I gotta draw the line here.  You are not risking your life posting this on PPP.

 

That's not where the risk comes. 

[Juror#8]

2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

You say this while admitting you haven't taken the time to see the dots that I've connected. You're operating on instinct and first impression rather than going by the evidence I've presented. 

 

 

Nothing about what I've written or said is about defending Trump. This isn't about politics, despite being cloaked in it. Politics and partisanship are the distraction used to prevent people from taking a serious look under the hood. You said it yourself. The staffers get along behind the scenes. There's fraternity. 

 

Because it's one big club, and party affiliations are noise to distract and divide the masses.

 

 

They are. And for over 60 years we have been hostages to their whims. 

 

That's changing now because truth is coming to the surface. Light is exposing the darkness. This is happening day by day to those who are paying attention. It's not the usual pendulum swing - big changes are in the works. We're looking at a year where we could very realistically see a peace treaty ending the Korean War and the ouster of the Mullahs from Iran. 

 

That would clear out two of the biggest (CIA constructed) hotspots in the world. It would lead almost directly to peace between Israel and Palestine. It would end the sectarian bloodshed in the ME once Hezbollah and Hamas are washed away from the Mullah's ouster. 

 

We're talking about GLOBAL change in a very short time. 

 

What's making that possible is the removal of this control system of which the POTUSes you're defending as being "good people" actively worked to create and reinforce. You may be willing to write that off once they're out of office and fall back on the cult of personality that protects these criminals - but you're about to see most of the country does not agree with that approach. 

 

Karma's coming for a whole mess of folk. It's just starting.

 

 

Risk my career to find the truth - and then risk my life and career to spread it where and when I can. Which is what I've been doing for going on two years now. 

 

I do this not to preach nor to convert, but to prepare the communities or people I care about (which includes you and this community) for the turmoil ahead. Because once this breaks, once it REALLY breaks, there's going to be a lot of confusion by a lot of people. You're ahead of the game because you (rightly) assume they're all crooks regardless of party affiliation - but remember there are plenty out there like Bob and Tibs who have been so brainwashed and who are so partisan they will react to the truth as if it's a coup. 

 

That's when things get dicey. 

 

Agree or disagree, I’ll be interested to see these dominoes that you’re saying are going to fall, fall. 

 

I do think that you’re quick to penalize people for institutional and administrative control apparati which have been in place for decades, and I think that where you’ll fall short is in the context of n “intent” that most of these folks don’t have because they willingly follow a formula of plausible deniability. 

 

You missed that that when I said it before. It’s true. Lot of conversations with a lot of Lds (granted, legislative politics) where the answer is “he’d rather not know; it’s cleaner then.” Plausible deniability and agency paradigm is how good people hold their nose through their time in Washington. 

 

So I stand by my original thesis. Because I haven’t seen anything that suggests that he or anyone pirposefully mislead or undermined the country or its institutions.

 

And I know people who’ve spent time with the man. My best friend, a Republican, met him thrice at camp David when he (my friend) worked there. He’s (Obama) is a good dude and a good dad. And I have testimonials to back that up. 

 

If there are books or blogs or websites that you could direct me to, though, I’m always a student and willing to learn new ****. 

 

[TakeYouToTasker]

1 hour ago, Juror#8 said:

 

44 and 43 did great things for this country. For every thing that they did that was arguably “bad,” I can counter with something opposite to restore balance to their legacy. And such would be the cadence for every president throughout history. Our politics has just become this acidic catastrophe of blame and vitriol because it’s viewed through such a truncated and slanted lens. Ugh. What the !@#$. 

 

And this is a thread about what someone is doing post-presidency. So their personality and them as individual citizens is appropriate for discussion. There have been plenty of threads litigating their success and failures in office. 

You guys are having two completely different conversations.

[Juror#8]

11 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Let's see, Trump is spending a lot of time golfing but is also probably the hardest working President we've had in decades. Regardless, I don't really give twoshits about it if he is doing the other things right. He is actually trying to get this country back to following the constitution rather than grabbing more power like the previous few presidents have attempted to do.

 

DR is researching and posting real concerns regarding the Deep State. Those concerns may not mean anything to you but don't discount them just because you don't care.

 

I don’t agree that he is the hardest working president. And what does that have to do with the frequency and the timing of his vacations? You gave **** to Obama’s about it. Where’s the parity. 

 

Oh I forgot, you offer no pretense of being non-partisan. As long as they have an r after their name, their **** doesn’t stink and what they do is reasonable. 

 

That’s cool too. 

 

Anyway, I see that that’s how you get around that. You did the Crazy Betty routine. Or is that the soft shoulder? The ol’ indignant - divert attention - approach. 

 

Either way, it was a little weak. 

 

But it speaks volumes. 

 

So thank you for agreeing with me. 

Edited March 18, 2018 by Juror#8

[3rdnlng]

4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Again, I implore you to go back through and read some of the threads. Read the thread on the Iran deal, or the numerous threads on the FISA abuse or Flynn's leak killers. There is MOUNTAINS of evidence on this site and in open source. 

 

Mountains. 

 

 

 

I don't take it as disrespect. I like your contributions to this board, we've never had a problem with one another so please know I'm coming hard at you now but that too is not meant to be disrespectful. It's because I know you don't need me to tip toe around my point. 

 

 

We are in a roll out phase right now, as I've been calling it. The rolling out of evidence over time to prepare the public consciousness for the bigger disclosures to come. We know the IG report is massive (over 1.2 million pages) and we know it has teeth as 15 people within the FBI/DOJ have already been fired, demoted, or resigned because of the findings within it. 

 

It's my contention - and some of this is provable, more will be soon - that there has been a counterintelligence operation in place since the very early days of the Trump campaign. It's being run by Military Intelligence (DIA) and was designed to flush out the corruption (CIA) in various parts of the system.

 

We are going to see indictments and prosecutions of major players over the next 36 months. Major names including Comey, Holder, Lynch, Power, Clinton, Podestas, and possibly 44 himself. The clock is already ticking. 

 

60% of the clean up is happening behind the scenes. 40% will be public.  

 

That's not where the risk comes. 

Don't be so hasty to deny the danger of PPP. A steady diet of gator, baskin, Lebug, busey and others will certainly lead to loss of brain power. But, you're not so special, we all face that peril.

[Deranged Rhino]

8 minutes ago, Juror#8 said:

 

If there are books or blogs or websites that you could direct me to, though, I’m always a student and willing to learn new ****. 

 

Start with these two threads (click on them to read in full, I just kept the headers for space):

 

On 1/21/2018 at 5:23 PM, Deranged Rhino said:

This also belongs in the deep state thread, but I'll put the original here: 

 

Is 45 lining up treason charges for 44?

 

 

 

On 12/3/2017 at 6:26 PM, Deranged Rhino said:

Long read warning!

 

Something interesting I found in relation to some of my earlier Flynn speculations:

 

Who is David Cattler and why is that relevant to Flynn's plea? 

 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/02/02/white-house-national-security-advisor-announces-nsc-senior-staff-0

 

 

 

[Juror#8]

8 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

You guys are having two completely different conversations.

 

I agree. Initially, I was talking about the dude’s post-presidency love not about anything he did in office. 

Edited March 18, 2018 by Juror#8

[3rdnlng]

4 minutes ago, Juror#8 said:

 

So ... that’s how you get around that huh? You did the Crazy Betty routine. Or is that the soft shoulder? The ol’ indignant - divert attention - approach. 

 

Either way, it was weak. 

 

But it speaks volumes. 

 

So thank you for agreeing with me. 

Talk about weak, wait until I give you the "Crazy Ivan", you'll be wishing you'd never heard of PPP.

[Juror#8]

1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said:

Talk about weak, wait until I give you the "Crazy Ivan", you'll be wishing you'd never heard of PPP.

 

Hahahaha fair enough. 

2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Start with these two threads (click on them to read in full, I just kept the headers for space):

 

 

 

 

I sure will. I’ll check these out and report back. I’m always up for some good reads and to challenge a personal paradigm or three. 

Edited March 18, 2018 by Juror#8

[keepthefaith]

4 hours ago, Juror#8 said:

 

I don’t agree that he is the hardest working president. And what does that have to do with the frequency and the timing of his vacations? You gave **** to Obama’s about it. Where’s the parity. 

 

Oh I forgot, you offer no pretense of being non-partisan. As long as they have an r after their name, their **** doesn’t stink and what they do is reasonable. 

 

That’s cool too. 

 

Anyway, I see that that’s how you get around that. You did the Crazy Betty routine. Or is that the soft shoulder? The ol’ indignant - divert attention - approach. 

 

Either way, it was a little weak. 

 

But it speaks volumes. 

 

So thank you for agreeing with me. 

 

Obama wasn't !@#$ing things up while on the golf course, so for me he didn't golf enough.  Trump probably tweets less as a result of frequent golfing so it's good he's carrying on 44's tradition. 

[B-Man]

The Hill:........http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/380193-obama-would-create-a-million-young-barack-obamas-if-he-could

 

Obama ponders creating ‘a million young Barack Obamas'

 

Former President Obama said on Sunday that he would like to create "a million young Barack Obamas" to run the next stage in the "relay race that is human progress," the Washington Examiner reported.

 

Obama reportedly made the comment at a conference in Japan while discussing the Obama Foundation’s work to help young people around the world get connected using the internet.

 

“If I could do that effectively, then — you know — I would create a hundred or a thousand or a million young Barack Obamas or Michelle Obamas,” Obama said. “Or, the next group of people who could take that baton in that relay race that is human progress.”

 

 

 

Of course it's ridiculous and funny but I guess my response is to laugh more at our board's lefties who complain about Trump's ego (which, YES, he certainly has) but our last President never started a sentence without the word "I".......................

 

 

 

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[3rdnlng]

5 minutes ago, B-Man said:

The Hill:........http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/380193-obama-would-create-a-million-young-barack-obamas-if-he-could

 

Obama ponders creating ‘a million young Barack Obamas'

 

Former President Obama said on Sunday that he would like to create "a million young Barack Obamas" to run the next stage in the "relay race that is human progress," the Washington Examiner reported.

 

Obama reportedly made the comment at a conference in Japan while discussing the Obama Foundation’s work to help young people around the world get connected using the internet.

 

“If I could do that effectively, then — you know — I would create a hundred or a thousand or a million young Barack Obamas or Michelle Obamas,” Obama said. “Or, the next group of people who could take that baton in that relay race that is human progress.”

 

 

 

Of course it's ridiculous and funny but I guess my response is to laugh more at our board's lefties who complain about Trump's ego (which, YES, he certainly has) but our last President never started a sentence without the word "I".......................

 

 

 

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So, Obama wants to create a million little Barack Obamas, eh? And they have the nerve to call Trump a slut!

[keepthefaith]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

The Hill:........http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/380193-obama-would-create-a-million-young-barack-obamas-if-he-could

 

Obama ponders creating ‘a million young Barack Obamas'

 

Former President Obama said on Sunday that he would like to create "a million young Barack Obamas" to run the next stage in the "relay race that is human progress," the Washington Examiner reported.

 

Obama reportedly made the comment at a conference in Japan while discussing the Obama Foundation’s work to help young people around the world get connected using the internet.

 

“If I could do that effectively, then — you know — I would create a hundred or a thousand or a million young Barack Obamas or Michelle Obamas,” Obama said. “Or, the next group of people who could take that baton in that relay race that is human progress.”

 

 

 

Of course it's ridiculous and funny but I guess my response is to laugh more at our board's lefties who complain about Trump's ego (which, YES, he certainly has) but our last President never started a sentence without the word "I".......................

 

 

 

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Ever notice that Obama never plainly states what he wants?  What changes to this country and this earth does he want to see specifically?  He never puts his cards on the table and exposes the global communist that he is. 

[DC Tom]

1 hour ago, keepthefaith said:

 

Ever notice that Obama never plainly states what he wants?  What changes to this country and this earth does he want to see specifically?  He never puts his cards on the table and exposes the global communist that he is. 

 

Because he doesn't want to make any changes.  He just wants to organize communities.

[TakeYouToTasker]

 

1 hour ago, keepthefaith said:

 

Ever notice that Obama never plainly states what he wants?  What changes to this country and this earth does he want to see specifically?  He never puts his cards on the table and exposes the global communist that he is. 

President Obama is a monarchist.  It's the same fight humanity has been having since freedom was conceived of

[boyst]

If only little traytray dindunuffin he'd be alive to realize obamas dream

[B-Man]

Team Obama’s smear machine-in-exile mobilizes to destroy Iran-deal critics New York Post, by Seth Mandel

Original Article

“John Bolton is at the nexus of Russia’s interference in our democracy and the NRA’s reckless agenda”: The sentence is so bonkers, so pristine in its conspiratorial insanity that it should one day grace a Museum of Natural History exhibit on early-21st century US politics.   Yet it wasn’t from an anonymous troll, or some Hollywood figure with tons of followers but little common sense. It was tweeted by National Security Action — an outfit run by former top Obama officials. Described by The Washington Post as a “political strike force,” this NSA is a coterie of veterans from the Obama White House.       .

[/dev/null]

21 hours ago, B-Man said:

Team Obama’s smear machine-in-exile mobilizes to destroy Iran-deal critics New York Post, by Seth Mandel

Original Article

“John Bolton is at the nexus of Russia’s interference in our democracy and the NRA’s reckless agenda”: The sentence is so bonkers, so pristine in its conspiratorial insanity that it should one day grace a Museum of Natural History exhibit on early-21st century US politics.   Yet it wasn’t from an anonymous troll, or some Hollywood figure with tons of followers but little common sense. It was tweeted by National Security Action — an outfit run by former top Obama officials. Described by The Washington Post as a “political strike force,” this NSA is a coterie of veterans from the Obama White House.       .

 

[Deranged Rhino]

2 hours ago, /dev/null said:

 

 

I count at least two future felons ...

[boyst]

So I finally met someone I've been waiting to meet in social circles.

 

Evidently the Obama girls were pretty damn wild and would !@#$ in front of security and even smoke weed, constantly. Obama didn't travel much partially due to this, his girls would go crazy. 

 

Was told literally security stopped the oldest daughter when she was about 15/16 from going back to a boyfriend's house. In protest she took him to the other side of the room and gave him a Tiberius right there in front of everyone.