K-9 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I'm confused. I thought Rex was attempting to run hybrid Schwartz's schemes for the earlier part of the season, which to my knowledge, doesn't involve 0 tech DT's. But he was doing less after the bye? Schwartz wasn't much of a hybrid scheme guy, perhaps you are confusing him with Petine. And yes, Ryan had his DTs playing less nose after the bye. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) Schwartz wasn't much of a hybrid scheme guy, perhaps you are confusing him with Petine. And yes, Ryan had his DTs playing less nose after the bye. GO BILLS!!! I meant that Rex was running a hybrid of his scheme and Schwartz. Playing a zero tech DT quite a bit would seem to contradict that. Edited February 2, 2016 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Even if you can jump to the conclusion that the highest rated ILB (Raglond) and/or OLB (Lee) are available in the first round and the Bills do take one of the two, I would bet a testicle that they swing around and take a true NT in the second. Anybody up for a penny ante bet? Cuz. Rex. Sux. Personal experience for i heard Rex was into feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 Related to this discussion - I listened this morning and Jim Monos indicates they aren't looking for a specific position fit on D in the draft http://www.wgr550.com/pages/22430434.php?contentType=4&contentId=18375631 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Related to this discussion - I listened this morning and Jim Monos indicates they aren't looking for a specific position fit on D in the draft http://www.wgr550.com/pages/22430434.php?contentType=4&contentId=18375631 This article lost me right away at "he's gonna use a guy to his strengths". I flash back to pretty much every game last season and watching Mario Williams and/or Marcel Dareus dropping back into pass coverage. "Strengths" he says? LMFAO. Sure. I also have a bridge with some trolls living under it that I want to sell someone. Takers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) How many times did Dareus drop into coverage? I honestly don't know. I know it was twice vs KC (1 per PFF). Just wondering if that's a real issue or something overblown. I'm just wondering if anyone has the numbers. Clearly we think, from a pass rushing capacity, he would have benefitted from a NT or Kyle being there so wasn't able to be as disruptive to the QB. Edited February 2, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) How many times did Dareus drop into coverage? I honestly don't know. I know it was twice vs KC (1 per PFF). Just wondering if that's a real issue or something overblown. I'm just wondering if anyone has the numbers. Clearly we think, from a pass rushing capacity, he would have benefitted from a NT or Kyle being there so wasn't able to be as disruptive to the QB. It was rare, but Luxy's bridge trolls told him it was all the time.... Edited February 2, 2016 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP's Voice Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Will he need to cut weight if he transitions to DE this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 This article lost me right away at "he's gonna use a guy to his strengths". I flash back to pretty much every game last season and watching Mario Williams and/or Marcel Dareus dropping back into pass coverage. "Strengths" he says? LMFAO. Sure. I also have a bridge with some trolls living under it that I want to sell someone. Takers? Mario and/or Marcel in every game I watched. I only watched about a dozen games, but it was mind numbing. Honestly guys, do some research on the zone blitz. That's essentially what Rex was trying to do. When less than half of the sacks that they did get came from their defensive line, it paints a good picture. To be fair to Weo here, it was rare when you consider it in the context of the number of plays they ran on defense. So if you run 50-55 plays on defense in a game and they do it once, it's not that much. That's really not the point though. If one out of 50 run plays, they asked Dan Carpenter to do it, would we be happy? Better yet, if Roman were telling us that Carpenter should be doing it because he fits the scheme better? Absurd example, but that's what was happening. I don't recall Mario or Marcel recording any passes defensed this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elroy16 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Lol, people are still bitching about Mario dropping in coverage? https://twitter.com/cover1eturner/status/694567244328734720 Mario dropped into coverage less than two times per game. Anyone remember the Patriots vs Broncos game a week ago where Von Miller had an INT and then they dropped a DT into coverage for the final play and stopped the Pats two point conversion? There is a place for lineman to drop into coverage, but it doesn't work when not everyone is doing their job. People should read this article: http://cover1.net/news/2016/1/21/2015-bills-defensive-study-defensive-line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Lol, people are still bitching about Mario dropping in coverage? https://twitter.com/cover1eturner/status/694567244328734720 Mario dropped into coverage less than two times per game. Anyone remember the Patriots vs Broncos game a week ago where Von Miller had an INT and then they dropped a DT into coverage for the final play and stopped the Pats two point conversion? There is a place for lineman to drop into coverage, but it doesn't work when not everyone is doing their job. People should read this article: http://cover1.net/news/2016/1/21/2015-bills-defensive-study-defensive-line Especially when that "lineman" is playing a standup LB position. I get that it's not the best use of a pass rusher, but Mario has the athletic skills to lend to the effort. Big time. He bucked early on and then just plain didn't give a crap as time wore on. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 At the top of the draft, it's about finding the guy that can have the biggest impact. D-linemen apparently aren't the focus of Wrex's Scheme. Wait what happened to "BPA"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Sign a FA NT. Rework Mario's deal. Sign Richie Let Kyle, Nigel, and Cordy walk Draft LT in first round. Then add LB's in rounds two and three. Round four take a SS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I hope we go either Billings or Spence in the first rd both of these players have all-pro potential. Andrew Billings is a flat out beast at 19yrs old. He has explosive first step and a amazing burst when he closes in on a tackle. he has the size 6/2 325lbs and strength to play anywhere on the los. This kid has serious potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Sign a FA NT. Rework Mario's deal. Sign Richie Let Kyle, Nigel, and Cordy walk Draft LT in first round. Then add LB's in rounds two and three. Round four take a SS Let Cordy walk? Yeesh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Lol, people are still bitching about Mario dropping in coverage? https://twitter.com/cover1eturner/status/694567244328734720 Mario dropped into coverage less than two times per game. Anyone remember the Patriots vs Broncos game a week ago where Von Miller had an INT and then they dropped a DT into coverage for the final play and stopped the Pats two point conversion? There is a place for lineman to drop into coverage, but it doesn't work when not everyone is doing their job. People should read this article: http://cover1.net/news/2016/1/21/2015-bills-defensive-study-defensive-line I doubt this will change people's minds. The meme is all set now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Especially when that "lineman" is playing a standup LB position. I get that it's not the best use of a pass rusher, but Mario has the athletic skills to lend to the effort. Big time. He bucked early on and then just plain didn't give a crap as time wore on. GO BILLS!!! Was it apparent to you as it was to me that he slacked off? Some people (Nihalarian) are claiming that the scheme was the primary factor in Mario's lack of production. I agree that the defensive approach forced him to play with more control and area responsibility was an important factor in his level of play. But I still contend, especially as the season wore on, that he exhibited his frustration by not playing with a maximum effort and commitment. I thought his body language d was awful and indicated that he didn't care. I don't want to exaggerate his lassitude but for me it was evident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Was it apparent to you as it was to me that he slacked off? Some people (Nihalarian) are claiming that the scheme was the primary factor in Mario's lack of production. I agree that the defensive approach forced him to play with more control and area responsibility was an important factor in his level of play. But I still contend, especially as the season wore on, that he exhibited his frustration by not playing with a maximum effort and commitment. I thought his body language d was awful and indicated that he didn't care. I don't want to exaggerate his lassitude but for me it was evident. The word apparent doesn't quite capture it. It was blatantly obvious to anyone who has watched him closely over the years. He had NO explosion. At all. Barring some injury we don't know about, considering his early public disclosure of his displeasure with his role in the schemes, I am certain he just mailed it in. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 The word apparent doesn't quite capture it. It was blatantly obvious to anyone who has watched him closely over the years. He had NO explosion. At all. Barring some injury we don't know about, considering his early public disclosure of his displeasure with his role in the schemes, I am certain he just mailed it in. GO BILLS!!! Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Related to this discussion - I listened this morning and Jim Monos indicates they aren't looking for a specific position fit on D in the draft http://www.wgr550.com/pages/22430434.php?contentType=4&contentId=18375631 Because if we were looking for a specific position fit, Monos would obviously spill the Bills beans and say just that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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