3rdand12 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 (edited) I'm pretty sure Roman can take Prescott/ Boykin/Brisett/Hogan and make him into the QB he wants him to be. He runs a very QB-friendly system, so his priority would be to get a guy with specific intangibles between the 2ND - 5th rounds. That being said, I love Tyrod and hope he's here long-term. yes Why I want Boykin. He's like Tyrod in many respects. Ballsy when it comes to taking deep shots, would trust Sammy like he does with Josh Doctson. Bills have a unique opportunity they've not had in a decade or so, they have a firmly entrenched, adequate starting QB to groom someone behind. and, yes Edited April 21, 2016 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY315 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 (edited) Sorry if this was already posted http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/rating-the-nfl-draft-prospects-quarterbacks-b99704527z1-376408321.html Bob McGinn's anonymous NFL scout takes on 2016 draft QBs (inside info) Just a few: 1. JARED GOFF, California (6-4, 217, 4.78, 1): Third-year junior. "Extremely accurate," one scout said. "Amazing feet and pocket presence. Very similar to (Tom) Brady that way. Can make all the throws. But he has such a slight build. He needs to get stronger. And having played in that spread system he will need to take snaps under center and make adjustments." Started all 37 games of his career, compiling a 14-23 record. "He was surrounded by nothing," another scout said. "His best running back had a hip and was hurt all year, the receiver has all kind of talent and he's a nut job. The rest of them are pedestrian. He might be the most ready but I'd be nervous taking him before 10. Thing I don't like is his slender build." Finished with a passer rating of 98.9. Another Cal product, Aaron Rodgers, posted a two-year rating of 102.9 in 2003-'04. "I just don't see him having that winner quality about him," a third scout said. "His arm isn't great. They do a lot of that dink and dunk offense, a lot of that false production. He gets rattled by pressure. Everything has kind of got to be under control for him. He couldn't win there and you want him to be the face of your franchise?" From Novato, Calif. Small hands (9 inches). Scored 34 on the 50-question Wonderlic intelligence test.2. CARSON WENTZ, North Dakota State (6-5, 237, 4.69, 1): "Prototypical," one scout said. "I see everything. Arm strength. Accuracy. Toughness. Athletic ability. Smart. Great kid." "He's a genius, Wentz is," said another scout with knowledge of Wentz's 40 on the Wonderlic. "He could be really good. He's the best runner, he's the best athlete. He is off the charts." Fifth-year senior from Bismarck, N.D., who didn't start a game until his fourth year. Finished with passer rating of 105.3. "He gets away with things in that league (Missouri Valley) that he wouldn't get away with in the SEC," a third scout said. "He tries to throw in tight windows. Even in the (FCS) title game he threw two picks. The guy he reminds me of is (Blake) Bortles. Everybody was so excited about Bortles because of the height and the athletic ability, and this guy has the same thing. At least Bortles played against big-time competition. At this point I just don't see where he's that accurate of a passer." Compared by that same scout to Ben Roethlisberger. "He's big, athletic and has a freaking cannon," a fourth scout said. "Level of competition is the only thing. I'd sit him for a year and a half, two years. Then I got a real starter. He'll be shoved into the fire too quickly and it may crush him."3. PAXTON LYNCH, Memphis (6-6 ½, 246, 4.83, 1): Fourth-year junior. "He's the guy I like," one scout said. "He's got the poise, the vision. You can see what Memphis has done since he's been there. Guy beat Mississippi and put Memphis on the map. Good athlete. Got all the things I look for in a guy." Only other offers out of Deltona, Fla., were from Florida A&M and Bethune-Cookman. "For a tall guy he doesn't act like (Dan) McGwire or somebody," another scout said. "He can get out of trouble. He can run. He can make all the throws. Accuracy is good, not great. Just give him a minute … but Jacksonville gave (Blake) Bortles only four games." His 36-inch vertical jump tied Cardale Jones for best effort among QBs. His passer rating of 93.5 included 110.6 in '15. "You might hit the home run with Lynch but because of the mental you might strike out," a third scout said. "He has the best arm. It ain't even close. That big, tall son of a gun can run, too. He's a little spacy, a little different." Added a fourth scout: "The overall maturity level and disposition, I'd be a bit concerned. Big kid, strong arm. But he's a ways away mentally." Wonderlic of 18. Edited April 21, 2016 by CNY315 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 @sn_nfl We've ranked every first-round quarterback drafted since 2000, some you forgot ever played. http://www.sportingnews.com/list/4701578-nfl-draft-first-round-quarterbacks-picks-tebow-newton-manziel-rodgers @pfref Important Pre-Draft reading: How to Tell If Your Team Just Drafted a QB Bust http://www.sports-reference.com/blog/2016/04/how-to-tell-if-your-team-just-drafted-a-qb-bust/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 @sn_nfl We've ranked every first-round quarterback drafted since 2000, some you forgot ever played. http://www.sportingnews.com/list/4701578-nfl-draft-first-round-quarterbacks-picks-tebow-newton-manziel-rodgers @pfref Important Pre-Draft reading: How to Tell If Your Team Just Drafted a QB Bust http://www.sports-reference.com/blog/2016/04/how-to-tell-if-your-team-just-drafted-a-qb-bust/ Thanks 26 for sharing. I am in the camp of both these guys have bust written all over them. Add to that the fact that 2 teams mortgaged the house to get them and people are going to get fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Thanks 26 for sharing. I am in the camp of both these guys have bust written all over them. Add to that the fact that 2 teams mortgaged the house to get them and people are going to get fired. You're welcome! Don't you just love the information age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Kevin Patra: NFL has a QB Development Problem (16:33)NFL.com’s Kevin Patra joined The John Murphy Show to discuss his latest article that takes a look at the uphill battle QBs face when drafted outside the first round. Patra cites a development problem in the NFL and the lack of live-reps for mid-round picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Can you have both? Here's my simulation with all of our Analysts' Grabs also included for fairness: 1 19 Buffalo Paxton Lynch QB Memphis 2 49 Buffalo Kenny Clark DT34 UCLA 3 80 Buffalo Kyler Fackrell OLB34 Utah State 4 117 Buffalo Pearce Slater RT San Diego St 4 139 Buffalo T.J. Green FS Clemson 5 156 Buffalo Mehdi Abdesmad DE34 Boston College 6 192 Buffalo Kevin Byard SS Middle Tennessee 6 218 Buffalo James Burgess ILB Louisville Love your sig draft but I'm not a fan of Cardale, I'm tired of guys with tons of "potential" that never pan out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Hashtag deep ball QB. @PFF_Sam Bowling Green QB Matt Johnson completed 40 passes travelling 20+ yards in the air in 2015, 20 of them went for touchdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Hashtag deep ball QB. @PFF_Sam Bowling Green QB Matt Johnson completed 40 passes travelling 20+ yards in the air in 2015, 20 of them went for touchdown. Is his WR draft able with the off field? Roger Lewis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Is his WR draft able with the off field? Roger Lewis? draft them as a pairing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 (edited) Is his WR draft able with the off field? Roger Lewis? There's a lot going on in that case and I'm not entirely sure what to think. Looking at it from the outside, it seems unlikely that a 4 year consensual relationship turned to rape. He blamed jealousy on her part for the allegations and that certainly could be true given the age of them at the time. He certainly seems to be on the straight and narrow now and I don't see why someone shouldn't give him the benefit of the doubt (unless there's damning evidence to the contrary). I'll be honest, I didn't think I was looking at an NFL WR with Lewis. Maybe take a punt on him if he goes undrafted. I think Johnson made him look a better vertical threat than he is. Edited April 22, 2016 by Blokestradamus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 JP Losman + Ryan Mallett = Paxton Lynch <dropping mic> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 (edited) Is there a good analytics breakdown for QBs in this draft for accuracy at all ranges. A lot depends if they are under pressure and throwing into tight coverage. Edited April 23, 2016 by ALF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 @PatKirwanCBS Measuring accuracy of the best of the rest of the QB Class of 2016: http://bit.ly/1WHLM4I Is there a good analytics breakdown for QBs in this draft for accuracy at all ranges. A lot depends if they are under pressure and throwing into tight coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I'm spending my afternoon watching a QB from the Ohio Valley Conference in the FCS. He's been kind enough to put All-22 footage up of 3 games. He's also neglected to include the incompletions. I might give him a draftable grade just for being that brazen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Thanks 26 , that's a new site for me and it looks very thorough. Player Profiles of eligible players Scouting Reports from real NFL Scouts Analytics Passing, Rushing, & Coverage Maps for every skill position player Audio/Video Reports and Podcasts on each Prospect “Real Football’s Draft Edge is the deepest inside coverage and analysis available anywhere!” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 (edited) I'm spending my afternoon watching a QB from the Ohio Valley Conference in the FCS. He's been kind enough to put All-22 footage up of 3 games. He's also neglected to include the incompletions. I might give him a draftable grade just for being that brazen. I can confirm I'd rather have Jarod Neal of UT Martin over Christian Hackenberg, Cody Kessler, Joel Stave, Jake Coker. Still a bit raw as a passer but there's something there. He's a switched on kid, knows when to attack and when to check down. Good arm, needs work on his form (falls away on some throws in clean pockets). Shows the ability to step up in the pocket and deliver with anticipation and velocity. Best completion rates were against Arkansas and FCS title finalists Jacksonville State (2 of UTM's toughest 3 opponents, Ole Miss being the other). Needs some physical maturation as well. Ceiling is probably a game manager backup, I wouldn't anticipate him getting drafted but someone should at least get him in a rookie minicamp. Edited April 23, 2016 by Blokestradamus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 QB Wonderlic scores http://www.nfldraftdiamonds.com/wonderlic-scores-qbs-draft/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 @PFF_Jeff QB rating when under pressure in 2015: Lynch 100.6 Cook 53.2 Hackenberg 44.5 Prescott 82.1 Doughty 81.1 Adams 103.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Interesting read How Height Unfairly Sets Up NFL Quarterback Prospects for Success/Failure http://presnapreads.com/2016/04/24/how-height-unfairly-sets-up-nfl-quarterback-prospects-for-successfailure/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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