starrymessenger Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Nobody has El Pegual by the shorties. If he doesn't want Ryan, Ryan won't be here. Paying him his contract won't deter that decision at all. GO BILLS!!! If that's true Wrecks Ryan should be toast. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 If that's true Wrecks Ryan should be toast. We shall see. So if Ryan is retained, it's because Pegula didn't want to fire a coach he has to keep paying? Well, since it can't be proved if that's the case, I guess you win that argument. Nice. But there are other considerations for the Pegulas here, chief among them, is another complete tear down the best thing for the organization at this point. There are pros and cons. I'm just saying Ryan's contract won't be a consideration one way or the other. If Pegula thinks a completely new direction is the one he decides is best, paying Rex will be just the cost of doing business for him. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 The one and done coaching hires worked pretty well for Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Well whatever the reason, keeping Rex would be another mistake. The first mistake was hiring him in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 once you are sure you made a mistake what is the point of waiting a certain number of years for show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 10m10 minutes ago Sammy Watkins: "If you're not going to do your job, cut him. It needs to be a business. We need some nasty coaches." Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 12m12 minutes ago More Watkins: "If they're not doing their job, get them out of here. If I'm not doing my job, step to me, get me out of here." Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 1m1 minute ago Mario criticized the #Bills subbing to match personnel: "If you're a bully on the field you don't let anything else dictate what you do." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 10m10 minutes ago Sammy Watkins: "If you're not going to do your job, cut him. It needs to be a business. We need some nasty coaches." Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 12m12 minutes ago More Watkins: "If they're not doing their job, get them out of here. If I'm not doing my job, step to me, get me out of here." Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 1m1 minute ago Mario criticized the #Bills subbing to match personnel: "If you're a bully on the field you don't let anything else dictate what you do." Who is Sammy talking about here? GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Who is Sammy talking about here? GO BILLS!!! Very interesting quote from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 10m10 minutes ago Sammy Watkins: "If you're not going to do your job, cut him. It needs to be a business. We need some nasty coaches." Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 12m12 minutes ago More Watkins: "If they're not doing their job, get them out of here. If I'm not doing my job, step to me, get me out of here." Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 1m1 minute ago Mario criticized the #Bills subbing to match personnel: "If you're a bully on the field you don't let anything else dictate what you do." Dayum Sammy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 once you are sure you made a mistake what is the point of waiting a certain number of years for show? It could be for show. OTOH, it would be a risk to fire the coach. It sends a message to any prospective coaches about the organization itself. The Bills had a head coach opt out after less than 1 year under new ownership and fire the next guy after 1 season. That doesn't look like a good situation from the outside. Of course they can always hire a Mike Pettine type coach, but is that just rearranging the deck chairs? It may be missing the players as a component to what is wrong. It's easy to keep the coaching carousel spinning, but if players are mailing it in for coach A, B, C, ... why are they going to suddenly light a fire for coach T, U, V? Frankly, it isn't going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 It's true. It "sends a bad message." HOWEVER keeping someone you want to fire just to hit some magic number does nobody any favors and just ensures you waste your future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 It could be for show. OTOH, it would be a risk to fire the coach. It sends a message to any prospective coaches about the organization itself. The Bills had a head coach opt out after less than 1 year under new ownership and fire the next guy after 1 season. That doesn't look like a good situation from the outside. Of course they can always hire a Mike Pettine type coach, but is that just rearranging the deck chairs? It may be missing the players as a component to what is wrong. It's easy to keep the coaching carousel spinning, but if players are mailing it in for coach A, B, C, ... why are they going to suddenly light a fire for coach T, U, V? Frankly, it isn't going to happen. The only way you get away with this is to bring in a President level executive, a czar. Dump the GM, dump the coaches (maybe you give 1 year), cut the under-performers, eat the cap hit the next year, have a good draft and start fresh with a good FA plan the following year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 It's true. It "sends a bad message." HOWEVER keeping someone you want to fire just to hit some magic number does nobody any favors and just ensures you waste your future. You're assuming that the only reason to keep Rex would be to hit a magic number. That might be true. OTOH, he may not be totally incompetent. No one is saying it worked out swimmingly in year 1, but one might hope the Bills hired him because they felt he could be a good coach. Who knows. What a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 You're assuming that the only reason to keep Rex would be to hit a magic number. That might be true. OTOH, he may not be totally incompetent. No one is saying it worked out swimmingly in year 1, but one might hope the Bills hired him because they felt he could be a good coach. Who knows. What a mess. They may have thought he was a good coach. But he's not. Wonder what idiot was advising Pegs. Or maybe it was just his decision, tho I find that hard to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 They may have thought he was a good coach. But he's not. Wonder what idiot was advising Pegs. Or maybe it was just his decision, tho I find that hard to believe. Doug Whaley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Michael Silver @MikeSilver 3m3 minutes ago Michael Silver Retweeted Joe bach They actually have good personnel Joe bach @jbach127 @MikeSilver @SteveSheflin changes are coming in buffalo and it starts with Whaley! He's had years too gather personnel and has flatlined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Doug Whaley Link? Ryan blew the Pegulas' mind when they interviewed him, Ryan's hire is on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Link? Ryan blew the Pegulas' mind when they interviewed him, Ryan's hire is on them. He had Rex on his list of HC candidates. He told the Pegulas he was in favor of the hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 He had Rex on his list of HC candidates. He told the Pegulas he was in favor of the hire. He said the same thing about Hugh Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 He had Rex on his list of HC candidates. He told the Pegulas he was in favor of the hire. The Pegulas said they would interview every HC candidate, they went to the meeting not expecting much, they left the meeting saying this is the guy. Of course Whaley was there and he got on board with his bosses decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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