4merper4mer Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 The target doesn't seem to fit the targets of classic islamic terrorism, hence why I said it doesn't appear to be political or religious in motivation. The target generally fits the disgruntled office employee situation more. And (at least so far) there doesn't seem to be any message or extremist affiliation, or history of extremism. The prep work, religious affiliation, and travel history, though, fit islamic terrorism, and not disgruntled employee. That's why it comes off as so weird to me, it's like a mix of both, and neither at the same time. Either way, the couple in question are !@#$s, and I'm glad they're dead. How does a rock concert in France fit a classic profile? Maybe the profile has changed to completely soft targets that are known to the assailant. IF the reports of ME travel, multiple Middle Eastern men coming and going from the apartment, etc. etc. turn out to be true and this is called workplace violence like the ridiculous assertions about Fort Hood, then the already difficult task of combating this just gets more difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) Shooters were wearing GoPro cameras. Apparently a public statement was goal, not just a private act. That certainly dispenses with the spontaneous workplace violence meme. . . Edited December 3, 2015 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 How does a rock concert in France fit a classic profile? Maybe the profile has changed to completely soft targets that are known to the assailant. IF the reports of ME travel, multiple Middle Eastern men coming and going from the apartment, etc. etc. turn out to be true and this is called workplace violence like the ridiculous assertions about Fort Hood, then the already difficult task of combating this just gets more difficult. It still doesn't make sense. I'm sure they felt like the Paris attacks was an extremely successful operation. Why change plans now? I can understand if they didn't "succeed" in Paris. Either way it's evil and tragic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Shooters were wearing GoPro cameras. Apparently a public statement was goal, not just a private act. That certainly dispenses with the spontaneous workplace violence meme. . . There you go. How does a rock concert in France fit a classic profile? Maybe the profile has changed to completely soft targets that are known to the assailant. IF the reports of ME travel, multiple Middle Eastern men coming and going from the apartment, etc. etc. turn out to be true and this is called workplace violence like the ridiculous assertions about Fort Hood, then the already difficult task of combating this just gets more difficult. Yeah, that could definitely be. I'm not seeking to call this thing terrorism, or not terrorism, it's just... muddied to me, right now. Personally, it doesn't make much difference at this point. We have a lot of violence in this country, sometimes it's at the hands of someone seeking to send a message, sometimes it's at the hands of someone just looking to kill. Kind of getting numb to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 President Obama statement/press conference coming up soon, Words likely you won't hear: "Muslim" "Islamic" "terror" "jihad" "martyrdom"...but expect "NRA" "common sense gun control" Also, if history is any clue, Obama's statement will be full of 'I' and 'me'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 How does a rock concert in France fit a classic profile? It's high-profile. And it wasn't just a rock concert. It was several public places in the near vicinity of a well-publicized international soccer game. That's what made it high-profile. President Obama statement/press conference coming up soon, Words likely you won't hear: "Muslim" "Islamic" "terror" "jihad" "martyrdom"... Probably because there's absolutely no reason to think they apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 A "Powerful Rebuke"by Mark Steyn On Wednesday, 14 Americans were shot dead and another 17 injured at a Christmas party in San Bernadino. The temptation to retreat instantly to one's tropes is very powerful - and Sam Stein, who is "Senior Politics Editor" of The Huffington Post, surrendered in a nano-second: Planned Parenthood is about 1.3 miles from site of shooting. CNN, however, is reporting that the shooting didn't take place there. In fact, the slaughter appears to be the work of one Syed Farook, a US-born county employee described by his father as a "devout Muslim", assisted by a woman who may or may not be a wife or girlfriend. They had body armor and sophisticated weaponry. One male is dead, as is a female, Tashfeen Malik - apparently one of those harmless Muslim "women and children" the President was sneering at scaredypants Republicans for being such bedwetters about. Responding to the carnage in Paris, Barack Obama said that the most "powerful rebuke" you could send to the terrorists was to go ahead and hold the big climate conference as scheduled and show the killers that the world would not be deflected from talking about sea levels in the Maldives in the 22nd century. The President spoke at the conference yesterday. Today can be seen as a "powerful rebuke" to the fatuities of Obama. http://www.steynonline.com/7333/a-powerful-rebuke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) Oh look, CNN is suddenly changing its tune, hoping everyone will forget the hours of gun control blather yesterday. “Farook was in touch over the phone and via social media with more than one international terrorism subject” http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/03/us/san-bernardino-shooting/index.html … . Edited December 3, 2015 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 PP story falling off page 1 and the new story can't be capitalized upon because it was radical Muslims. Double whammy for the left wing agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 12 pipe bombs ... 1600 rounds of ammo ... Travel to Saudi Arabia and Pakistan ... Speaking over the phone and thru Social Media to Terrorists under investigation by the FBI ... Body armor ... Father said suspect was a radicalized devout muslim ... Female suspect was here on a Pakistani work visa ... POTUS explanation = workplace violence .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Media: This was workplace violence right? Police: There's zero evidence of that Media: Ok we'll go with workplace violence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandius Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 What's funny is that terrorism is actually the less scary prospect. It's not more palatable that a normal, moderate Muslim gets triggered by Christmas ham at a holiday party and goes on a killing spree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 PP story falling off page 1 and the new story can't be capitalized upon because it was radical Muslims. Double whammy for the left wing agenda. What do you mean? This is just another example of work place violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chef Jim Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 PP story falling off page 1 and the new story can't be capitalized upon because it was radical Muslims. Double whammy for the left wing agenda. Lefty Facebook friends have become eerily quiet too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Crazy religious fanatics at it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Crazy religious fanatics at it again. Why don't you come straight out with it and blame the one you want to blame? The one who made you bald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 12 pipe bombs ... 1600 rounds of ammo ... Travel to Saudi Arabia and Pakistan ... Speaking over the phone and thru Social Media to Terrorists under investigation by the FBI ... Body armor ... Father said suspect was a radicalized devout muslim ... Female suspect was here on a Pakistani work visa ... POTUS explanation = workplace violence .... Its an outrageous pathetic lack of honesty. Although he still calls the ft. Good shooting workplace violence and every involved is still ineligible for a purple heart, but I digress. Knowing this guys track record his response is right on par. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Crazy religious fanatics at it again. This time you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 You can't make this stuff up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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