Justice Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Oh, that's good news. We've already had the argument about whether or not to let Mexican refugees into the country. No, it could just be a crime. When all crime becomes terrorism, "terrorism" becomes a worthless concept. I don't know, man, whenever this many people are killed at one time it's terrorism to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 "Terrorism" requires a cause, imo. We don't know what the cause is, for this yet. If it's not motivated by politics or religious beliefs, then it's probably doesn't qualify as terrorism. Could you explain to the fine people on twitter who are saying that they aren't saying if it's terrorism because they want to see if they are white or not. TIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Glad they seem to finally have the situation under control. As far as who is responsible... arabic, hispanic, white, black, whatever, !@#$'em, they're !@#$s. It's not under control yet. Suspect(s) still at large. Here's the best link, it's live and updates well ahead of the news: https://www.reddit.com/live/w0nn1o5hu90y No, it could just be a crime. When all crime becomes terrorism, "terrorism" becomes a worthless concept. LA Times is reporting the incident started when someone got angry during a meeting, left the building, then returned with friends and guns. This is unconfirmed, but it's gaining steam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 It's not under control yet. Suspect(s) still at large. Here's the best link, it's live and updates well ahead of the news: https://www.reddit.com/live/w0nn1o5hu90y LA Times is reporting the incident started when someone got angry during a meeting, left the building, then returned with friends and guns. This is unconfirmed, but it's gaining steam. That report conflicts with reports on CNN. They say the shooters were organized and had a plan. That takes time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 It's not under control yet. Suspect(s) still at large. Here's the best link, it's live and updates well ahead of the news: https://www.reddit.com/live/w0nn1o5hu90y LA Times is reporting the incident started when someone got angry during a meeting, left the building, then returned with friends and guns. This is unconfirmed, but it's gaining steam. Ah, I thought they got everyone (I've been watching that live stream since it went up) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 That report conflicts with reports on CNN. They say the shooters were organized and had a plan. That takes time. Correct. It's unconfirmed all around, but like I said, it's gaining momentum from people on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 3, 2015 Author Share Posted December 3, 2015 A bomb threat to the hospital right after the shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Press conference coming up in minutes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) Good Lord, some in the media are really going to push this as a workplace violence occurrence ? Funny how the word terrorism suddenly disappears I always bring pipe bombs to contentious office meetings. And AKs. And body armor. Seriously... ...............are any grownups at the LATimes? http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-up-to-20-shot-in-san-bernardino-active-shooter-sought-20151202-story.html … A disgruntled employee decides to shoot up his workplace? Ok. Makes little sense. http://www.nytimes.com/live/san-bernardino-shooting/a-disgruntled-employee/ … and make pipe bombs, get vests, masks, vehicle, weapons, plan, all in 20 min? Laughable. Thank goodness this wasn't TERRORISM................. . Edited December 3, 2015 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Oh, that's good news. We've already had the argument about whether or not to let Mexican refugees into the country. What if it's George Zimmerman or one of his fellow white Hispanics? There's more trouble brewing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 One male shooter, one female shooter confirmed dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Good Lord, some in the media are really going to push this as a workplace violence occurrence ? Funny how the word terrorism suddenly disappears I always bring pipe bombs to contentious office meetings. And AKs. And body armor. Seriously... ...............are any grownups at the LATimes? http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-up-to-20-shot-in-san-bernardino-active-shooter-sought-20151202-story.html … A disgruntled employee decides to shoot up his workplace? Ok. Makes little sense. http://www.nytimes.com/live/san-bernardino-shooting/a-disgruntled-employee/ … and make pipe bombs, get vests, masks, vehicle, weapons, plan, all in 20 min? Laughable. Thank goodness this wasn't TERRORISM................. . A disgruntled employee leaves a meeting in a rage, then comes back with two accomplices to shoot up the place. "What's that? You're mad at your boss, and want to shoot everyone? Of course I'm in! Let me grab my Uzi, and I'll meet you there. And hey...y'know what? Give Frank a call. He's always up for this sort of thing." Yeah, that sounds likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Tayyeep Bin Ardogan & Farouk Saaed. I'm guessing not white conservatives. Sorry mainstream media Police say "three may potentially be even more people involved in the planning." This was TERRORISM, not Christmas party revenge/ workplace violence B.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 A disgruntled employee leaves a meeting in a rage, then comes back with two accomplices to shoot up the place. "What's that? You're mad at your boss, and want to shoot everyone? Of course I'm in! Let me grab my Uzi, and I'll meet you there. And hey...y'know what? Give Frank a call. He's always up for this sort of thing." Yeah, that sounds likely. The house being searched now is owned by an employee of the county health department -- which was the department hosting the party (according to the FBI). Tayyeep Bin Ardogan & Farouk Saaed. I'm guessing not white conservatives. Sorry mainstream media Police say "three may potentially be even more people involved in the planning." This was TERRORISM, not Christmas party revenge/ workplace violence B.S. Not saying I know what it is yet, because I don't. But as crazy as it sounds, it's not unreasonable to think a guy (or guy and gal) with a grudge could dream up a pretty sick revenge plan involving all of these elements. It's not impossible. Unlikely? Certainly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Man, if this really turns out to be jihadist terrorism, we are going to witness the mother of all climate change summits. The coordination of the liberal media is impressive. Give them that. THIS IS WHO THEY ARE. THIS IS WHAT THEY DO. Left Spends Day In Coordinated Attack on Saying “Thoughts and Prayers” For the Victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 The house being searched now is owned by an employee of the county health department -- which was the department hosting the party (according to the FBI). Not saying I know what it is yet, because I don't. But as crazy as it sounds, it's not unreasonable to think a guy (or guy and gal) with a grudge could dream up a pretty sick revenge plan involving all of these elements. It's not impossible. Unlikely? Certainly. Yes, but the reports so far have been claiming it was a spontaneous act (as most workplace violence is to a large degree.) And it's very rare for someone to join in someone else's revenge fantasies. That's just bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) Yes, but the reports so far have been claiming it was a spontaneous act (as most workplace violence is to a large degree.) And it's very rare for someone to join in someone else's revenge fantasies. That's just bizarre. Agree that the "spontaneous" part is completely wacky and I don't buy it. But it's speculative. The LA Times has been saying from the beginning that it wasn't spontaneous, but the guy came to the party to make sure someone specific was present, and then was confronted by someone else. (for clarification, that's all unconfirmed of course. They cite a "federal source"). Edited December 3, 2015 by Deranged Rhino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Tayyeep Bin Ardogan & Farouk Saaed. I'm guessing not white conservatives. Sorry mainstream media Police say "three may potentially be even more people involved in the planning." This was TERRORISM, not Christmas party revenge/ workplace violence B.S. Even those are the real names, its inconsistent with a jihadist target. How about we find out what happened instead of premature attempt to pursue your own biased agenda? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 3, 2015 Author Share Posted December 3, 2015 A disgruntled employee leaves a meeting in a rage, then comes back with two accomplices to shoot up the place. "What's that? You're mad at your boss, and want to shoot everyone? Of course I'm in! Let me grab my Uzi, and I'll meet you there. And hey...y'know what? Give Frank a call. He's always up for this sort of thing." Yeah, that sounds likely. Too strange! Going to be a storage story told when all is said and done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Agree that the "spontaneous" part is completely wacky and I don't buy it. But it's speculative. The LA Times has been saying from the beginning that it wasn't spontaneous, but the guy came to the party to make sure someone specific was present, and then was confronted by someone else. (for clarification, that's all unconfirmed of course. They cite a "federal source"). this was as spontaneous as the benghazi youtube protest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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