T master Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Well here we are 15 years after the Bills last play off appearance & after all that time one person from those play off Bills is still relevant . All the rest have moved on or retired & he's still relevant . Wade Phillips has the best D in the league & is part of a 7&0 Broncos team . If there is any way to get a little revenge for being fired from the Bills i think this could be it. Ralph undoubtedly is looking down watching his beloved Bills & still doesn't have a clue that Wade is one of the best coaches in the game ! Maybe not a HC but still one of the best . I wonder if Wade coaches with a chip on his shoulder to show Ralph, Jerry, & others what they gave up on ? I for one at the time couldn't figure out why a coach with a winning record that got our team to the play offs was fired, same as i did when Fox was let go by the now 7 & 0 Broncos . Just goes to show you what i know while we all know why a coach BAILS with a winning record ! Because he was a money grubbing WIMP ! But i digress ! As i am only a fan & only know football from the fans perspective i know why i am not in the business because i would suck at it as most fans would !! But i still wonder about those calls back then. Was it Ralph or Wade that made the QB call ? Was Ralph P.O'd at Wade after the game because he lost in Nashville or was it because Wade stood up & voiced his displeasure at the QB call ? Or was he fired because he (Wade) made the QB call & Ralph wasn't for the change ? One may never know unless we ask Wade's wife --- YAH that's it !! But one thing you can't deny --- The Guy Knows Defense ! Where ever he goes the D is better for him being there ! And today he has the Best D in the league & is still relevant in the NFL !! Blitz on Wade !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I have always considered Wade Phillips to be one of the best D coordinators ever......ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuSeYiN_NYC Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 The title of the topic is what every woman wishes she can say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 You really like Wade Phillips' D, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Yea well, its helps to have Von Miller, and DeMarcus Ware at OLBer too. Phillips always had great defensive game plans during the regular season and once the playoffs hit not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Wade keeps it simple and lets his players play fast and loose. He was known for this in Houston, Dallas, Buffalo, and Denver. He doesn't over think it. Just the opposite of someone else we know. I never understood the decision on Flutie, and it was Ralph, not Wade. I also never understood why Ralph would fire a winning coach. He won with a running game and great defense, and the littel man running all over the place. I hope they win the SB so Peyton could leave on top, Wade gets a ring, and most importantly they beat the Patriots in their house in Denver in the championship game. We are not good enough to compete at that level. I hope we can finally make it to the playoffs, but I don't expect we can beat the top flight teams. I think if we start to gel, we can beat possible the Colts, or the Bengals if we are at full strength, but we will never beat the Broncos, or Patriots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Oh the golden days of yore with flutie and his noodle arm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thronethinker Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Too bad he can't make sensible special team decisions when it matters most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 we were spoiled when we fired Wade. he brought us to the playoffs but apparently that wasn't good enough because we were used to going to Super Bowls. he was the best coach that we've had since Marv imo. better coordinator than head coach though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I would rather have Rex's D scheme than wade's, though I like both guys and both defenses. I think an aggressive scheme will get you farther. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsmovinup Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Oh the golden days of yore with flutie and his noodle arm Flutie now goes by the stage name "Skin Flutie" and is a rising star in the adult film industry. A man of many talents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Wade keeps it simple and lets his players play fast and loose. He was known for this in Houston, Dallas, Buffalo, and Denver. He doesn't over think it. Just the opposite of someone else we know. I never understood the decision on Flutie, and it was Ralph, not Wade. I also never understood why Ralph would fire a winning coach. He won with a running game and great defense, and the littel man running all over the place. I hope they win the SB so Peyton could leave on top, Wade gets a ring, and most importantly they beat the Patriots in their house in Denver in the championship game. We are not good enough to compete at that level. I hope we can finally make it to the playoffs, but I don't expect we can beat the top flight teams. I think if we start to gel, we can beat possible the Colts, or the Bengals if we are at full strength, but we will never beat the Broncos, or Patriots. You are correct on your comment that it was the meddling owner who determined who was going to start at qb in the playoff game. Doug Flutie stated on a radio interview (and many other times) that it was Ralph Wilson who made the qb call. He directed Phillips to start Johnson over Flutie. The irascible owner also directed Wade Phillips to fire the special teams coach, who was a long term friend and associate of Wade. Wade said no. The owner then fired Wilson and refused to pay off his contract. The owner's reasoning was that Wade was being insubordinate so that he wasn't obligated to fulfill the rest of the contract. The owner was told by his staff and others that he had to honor the contract and pay off the remaining portion of it. The owner stubbornly resisted. It went to an arbitration hearing and in a very quick decision the owner was compelled to honor the rest of Wade's contract. With respect to the special team's coach that Wilson wanted fired the coach was dreadful. He deserved to be fired. But when it came to not honoring a contract the owner had no legitimate reason not do so. Ralph Wilson as an owner was incompetent. Ralph Wilson as a person was both honorable and stubborn to a fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I have always considered Wade Phillips to be one of the best D coordinators ever......ever I couldn't agree with you more, John, and I have believed it for years. What I couldn't believe was those rare times when this guy was sitting at home, instead of coaching a D somewhere. Seriously head shake worthy...I never understood how why this guy would ever out of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Well sure, 15 years later. But 50-60 years later he might need some help generating as much pressure up the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Great defensive mind. Not a great HC. Bills special teams were a train wreck under Ronnie jones. BTW, wade coached under buddy Ryan for several years in the late 80s. Their defenses are similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 My D is A+ too...hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Sooo Ralph is cheap? I assume you are referring to the contract flap with Wade Phillisp? If so the issue for Ralph wasn't over money. He felt that the HC was obligated to follow his dictates. Whether it was smart or not to fire Phillips is not the main issue in my original posting. Without a doubt he had the authority to hire or fire anyone he wanted to. But in this case he clearly had an obligation to pay off the contract with Wade after he fired him. Ralph was wrong from a legal and contractual standpoint. The arbitration result came back quickly and with no equivocations: He was obligated to pay the remaining part of the contract. It wasn't a question (in this matter) of being cheap---it was an issue of him being stubborn, Was Ralph a good owner? Look at his record and draw your own conclusions. My position on him as an owner is very firm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 They gave up on Wade the head coach, not Wade the D coordinator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 you think Wade is more upset about being fired as head coach of the Bills than he is about being fired as head coach of the Cowboys? great DC, not nearly as good of a HC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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