LB3 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 If I'm being 100% honest about it, there's a part of me that hopes TT and EJ both play great in the next game and that Cassel screws the pooch. If Cassel is named starter, it will take some of the wind out of my sails. At least for a few days, until I convince myself that he's the right choice because...GO BILLS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonprophet Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 The other is a Ferrari Countach: Dude, that's a Ferrari F40. The Countach is made by Lamborghini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Dude, that's a Ferrari F40. The Countach is made by Lamborghini. Pointed out to me twice already. Thanks for being #3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ1 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 If I'm being 100% honest about it, there's a part of me that hopes TT and EJ both play great in the next game and that Cassel screws the pooch. If Cassel is named starter, it will take some of the wind out of my sails. At least for a few days, until I convince myself that he's the right choice because...GO BILLS! If cassel is the starter he doesn't make it past game 9 (physically). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I can't talk myself into Cassel as the starter. He's a good backup, that's all. We need to win the first two games this year period. Start TT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 He is not my choice....but I would totally get behind it if named starter and Tyrod is going to be in there at some point this season regardless.....book it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Mistake free football Ummmm. No ? 34 ints to go with his 30 tds last 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Ummmm. No ? 34 ints to go with his 30 tds last 4 years. Ryan, That is concerning to me as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Ummmm. No ? 34 ints to go with his 30 tds last 4 years. It's funny how certain narratives are taken as gospel. There is nothing inherently safer about going with Cassel. The Bills have played it safe at QB for years and it never worked. Of course now you have more weapons, but you are limiting them with conservative QB play. I say go big or go home with Tyrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negativo Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 The case for Cassel: "Meh" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 It's funny how certain narratives are taken as gospel. There is nothing inherently safer about going with Cassel. The Bills have played it safe at QB for years and it never worked. Of course now you have more weapons, but you are limiting them with conservative QB play. I say go big or go home with Tyrod. Guess experience on the resume means something. 2010 was an amazing year for him. Don't see any "consistency" though. ABC is all I say. Anyone but Cassel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 There really is little to no case for Cassel to start. Playing him says that the Bills' think they have a better defense than the 85 Bears, SB Champ Ravens, and a few other historically GREAT defenses. There is about a 1 in 1000 chance that this team goes far in the playoffs with Matt Cassel at QB. First, Cassel has played well in only 2 of 10 seasons and 0 of the last 4 seasons. Secondly, it is RARE for a team to win the SB with a journeyman QB. Lest anyone think that I believe that Tyrod Taylor or EJ Manuel are much better options - i don't. However, at least with both you have SOME chance that they will improve with experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Cassell is more experienced. This is pure unadulterated fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 This is pure unadulterated fact Some guys value more experience. I prefer raw talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 There really is little to no case for Cassel to start. Playing him says that the Bills' think they have a better defense than the 85 Bears, SB Champ Ravens, and a few other historically GREAT defenses. There is about a 1 in 1000 chance that this team goes far in the playoffs with Matt Cassel at QB. First, Cassel has played well in only 2 of 10 seasons and 0 of the last 4 seasons. Secondly, it is RARE for a team to win the SB with a journeyman QB. Lest anyone think that I believe that Tyrod Taylor or EJ Manuel are much better options - i don't. However, at least with both you have SOME chance that they will improve with experience. and there is the rub. TT and EJM have limited exp. They have have very different coaching experiences . But really they are both vessels of potential as compared to our beloved Matt Some guys value more experience. I prefer raw talent. Lets not get sidetracked . we are still talking football here. But even though the Bills are built to win now ( fan phrase ) i think the team should be looking long term still. TT and or EJM are investments that may or may not provide early rewards. I am torn honestly with who to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 If Astro is leaning to Cassel, I can respect his opinion (for now) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I think Roman prefers Cassel because he feels he can "out coach" the opposing DC with a safe, consistent QB. It could be considered a coach's conceit. It will probably work for a bit, but the bag of tricks better be deep. A guy like Tyrod can take the game away from an OC. If Astro is leaning to Cassel, I can respect his opinion (for now) He's not. He said he believes the coaches are. He prefers Tyrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 You are right HoF Watkins , my mistake "Even though I'm a big Tyrod fan, I think we're starting the year with Cassel under center. I hope I'm wrong." (Astro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 You are right HoF Watkins , my mistake "Even though I'm a big Tyrod fan, I think we're starting the year with Cassel under center. I hope I'm wrong." (Astro) Astro is the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Astro is the best. Hands down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Astro is the best. agreed. He is a playmaker and not in the tub. I think he makes the cutdown to 53. I dont care who they start. Lets go kick some Pony Patooty ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Ummmm. No ? 34 ints to go with his 30 tds last 4 years. Along with 20 fumbles/10 lost. So in the last 4 years and only 30 games played he's been pick off 34 times and fumbled 20 times losing 10 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Along with 20 fumbles/10 lost. So in the last 4 years and only 30 games played he's been pick off 34 times and fumbled 20 times losing 10 of them. Mr. Consistent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Along with 20 fumbles/10 lost. So in the last 4 years and only 30 games played he's been pick off 34 times and fumbled 20 times losing 10 of them. in a run-heavy, vertical system. But, he's great at play-action!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyK Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 IMO the Bills pick MC to start the year! I think they buck the trend of not playing 2 QBs and start by giving TT a little under 1/3 of the snaps and adjust as the games go on! (I am worried about TT staying healthy) I also think MC is gone in a year or two and they draft a QB and have a three QB battle again with TT and EJ again just my thoughts Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 in a run-heavy, vertical system. But, he's great at play-action!! And giving the ball to the other team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 (edited) Greg Gabriel weighs in on Tyrod Taylor. "I have not seen him make a poor throw in the first two games. While Taylor will never be mistaken for the likes of Aaron Rodgers or Andrew Luck, he can be similar to Michael Vick in his prime. If that happens, the Buffalo Bills may well be the surprise team of the AFC in 2015!..." http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/is-tyrod-taylor-the-answer-at-quarterback-for-the-buffalo-bills/ Edited August 26, 2015 by jeffismagic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Per WGR Matt was off a lot in the last SJF practice. TT has a good day and EJ was OK (could have been better w/o an INT thrown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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