Fixxxer Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 While I don't envision him being any better or worse than EJ, Tyrod Taylor or Matt Cassel, when I think of Jeff Tuel I think only of that heinous INT against undefeated KC a few years back that pretty much buried our playoff chances that year. I guess you blocked the awful pick 6 against the Browns, two in one year, that has to be a record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 13, 2015 Author Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) Maybe we should give Teul an entire 16 games as starter so we know for sure he has what it takes. Lol Imo absolutely, since he was a 1st round draft pick too and has also won 6 of the 13 games he started and finished in the NFL. Oh wait... No he was a UDFA who has won nothing in the NFL and barely won games in college. So many similarities though you are right LMO! Edited April 13, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDVA Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I am grateful that this is not the same front office that drafted CJ Spiller with a first round pick when they had Fred still in his prime and Marshawn on the roster because some cry babies don't like thugs. The constant call for us to waste another draftpick on a QB, when there isn't one worth a damn out there. The pick six against KC aside, I thought Tuel for the most part performed well against an undefeated team with the number 1 defense in the league at the time. I have no problem giving Tuel a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 The pick six against KC aside, I thought Tuel for the most part performed well against an undefeated team with the number 1 defense in the league at the time. I have no problem giving Tuel a shot. This is the part I cannot understand at all. No disrespect: what did Tuel do that impressed you in that game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 It says less about tuel and more about the other candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 This is the part I cannot understand at all. No disrespect: what did Tuel do that impressed you in that game? In all seriousness, I liked his presence in the pocket. Quick release. Took some good shots down field, including that TD to Goodwin. Overall, I thought he did pretty well for his first start; not many UDFA's would do better under those circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 This is the part I cannot understand at all. No disrespect: what did Tuel do that impressed you in that game? That's what I'm saying. In the K. C game the Bills had more yards running than passing 241 - 229, and averaged more per attempt 6.3 - 5.87. The passing game had all 3 turnovers: 2 ints, 1 fumble(TJ Graham), if not for the rushing game and defense this game would have been a blow out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 In all seriousness, I liked his presence in the pocket. Quick release. Took some good shots down field, including that TD to Goodwin. Overall, I thought he did pretty well for his first start; not many UDFA's would do better under those circumstances. I know we've hashed it out before but I feel like quick release, presence and took shots are pretty wishy washy compliments.... I could stand tall and throw the ball downfield quickly but without accuracy, decision making, arm strength etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 13, 2015 Author Share Posted April 13, 2015 That's what I'm saying. In the K. C game the Bills had more yards running than passing 241 - 229, and averaged more per attempt 6.3 - 5.87. The passing game had all 3 turnovers: 2 ints, 1 fumble(TJ Graham), if not for the rushing game and defense this game would have been a blow out.and he wasn't touched. I believe the OL allowed 0 sacks that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 While I don't envision him being any better or worse than EJ, Tyrod Taylor or Matt Cassel, when I think of Jeff Tuel I think only of that heinous INT against undefeated KC a few years back that pretty much buried our playoff chances that year. Kid was thrown into the line-up with hardly any reps during the spring . No 1st team reps until a week or two before the game. What ? Against the #1 team defense in the nfl that week. C`mon. I think if he had the reps EJ was given,he would be just as good or better. And E.J. was a 1st rd pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 The problem with Jeff Tuel is that he suffers from "Ryan Neufeld Syndrome of the QB position." It is such a terrible, crippling disease that it affects not only your playing ability but the eyesight and judgment of certain fans that have no antibodies of the dreaded Ryan Neufeld Syndrome in their bodies. When you have Ryan Neufeld Syndrome, whose main symptoms are you are white and you excel at nothing but are adequate at most if not all phases of your position, you suck. That is why it is so debilitating and dangerous. If you have Ryan Neufeld Syndrome at the quarterback position, not only do you suck, but it could set the franchise back, as much as ten years. Jeff Tuel has the classic case of QBRNS. He is not short, he is not terribly slow, he is not terribly inaccurate, he does not have a terribly weak arm, he's not entirely stupid, he doesn't have any glaring weaknesses in his dropback, set up or motion. But when you have all of those qualities, you suck at QB and yet some people think you could be good. You cannot. Because you do not do one thing well. When you do not do one thing well in the NFL, you suck and do not belong in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 The problem with Jeff Tuel is that he suffers from "Ryan Neufeld Syndrome of the QB position." It is such a terrible, crippling disease that it affects not only your playing ability but the eyesight and judgment of certain fans that have no antibodies of the dreaded Ryan Neufeld Syndrome in their bodies. When you have Ryan Neufeld Syndrome, whose main symptoms are you are white and you excel at nothing but are adequate at most if not all phases of your position, you suck. That is why it is so debilitating and dangerous. If you have Ryan Neufeld Syndrome at the quarterback position, not only do you suck, but it could set the franchise back, as much as ten years. Jeff Tuel has the classic case of QBRNS. He is not short, he is not terribly slow, he is not terribly inaccurate, he does not have a terribly weak arm, he's not entirely stupid, he doesn't have any glaring weaknesses in his dropback, set up or motion. But when you have all of those qualities, you suck at QB and yet some people think you could be good. You cannot. Because you do not do one thing well. When you do not do one thing well in the NFL, you suck and do not belong in the NFL. Yatta yatta yatta, Not buying it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 The thing that gets me is EVERY Bills fan would have been on the Tuel Time band wagon if he would have played better in his FIRST NFL start because when he hit Goodwin he was the Bills next Brady but then when he threw the pick 6 he was relegated to the Bills dumpster of past QB's . BUT that being said so many say that EJ can't be judged after only 14 games typical Bills fan type answer !! (can you say total contradiction ??) I for one am glad Tuel has shown enough to hang around & would love it if one day before the end of his career he makes all the haters eat crow , weather it be in B/Lo or else where !! Then in true Bills fan form (if it were to be in B/Lo) like when Flutie was here they would love him as long as the winning happens then when he leaves they would crucify him !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) I know we've hashed it out before but I feel like quick release, presence and took shots are pretty wishy washy compliments.... I could stand tall and throw the ball downfield quickly but without accuracy, decision making, arm strength etc....It's relative too. We were coming off Thad, who would get sacked 5 times, and fumble 3 times. Or, EJ, who only checked down. So maybe I put too much stock in Tuel's presence and deep throws. Regardless, I think it's probably too early to write the guy off. Edited April 13, 2015 by JR in Pittsburgh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 The thing that gets me is EVERY Bills fan would have been on the Tuel Time band wagon if he would have played better in his FIRST NFL start because when he hit Goodwin he was the Bills next Brady but then when he threw the pick 6 he was relegated to the Bills dumpster of past QB's . BUT that being said so many say that EJ can't be judged after only 14 games typical Bills fan type answer !! (can you say total contradiction ??) I for one am glad Tuel has shown enough to hang around & would love it if one day before the end of his career he makes all the haters eat crow , weather it be in B/Lo or else where !! Then in true Bills fan form (if it were to be in B/Lo) like when Flutie was here they would love him as long as the winning happens then when he leaves they would crucify him !! Not even close. There's a lot to be said for a guy like EJ being able to execute more than 15 plays into a game versus a guy like Tuel that can execute scripted plays and falls on his face afterward. Enormous difference IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Jeff Tuel will be released after the draft. Whoever we draft will be the 4th QB getting reps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Not even close. There's a lot to be said for a guy like EJ being able to execute more than 15 plays into a game versus a guy like Tuel that can execute scripted plays and falls on his face afterward. Enormous difference IMO Compare EJ's Tampa game to Jeff's KC game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Compare EJ's Tampa game to Jeff's KC game. Howabout his game against the steelers. Oh but he was coming off a injury,and was rusty.........like Tuel not getting many reps ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDVA Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Jeff Tuel will be released after the draft. Whoever we draft will be the 4th QB getting reps. Where do you see a QB past Winston and Mariota who is or will be anything more than what Tuel is without the benefit of going into his third year of professional coaching? So why, why would you waste a draft pick for a number four QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Told you it was tuel time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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