Freds rushing stats last year

[Shoto]

Fred's value is listed in the intangibles.

Stat-1 He is a true leader of the players and all the players respect him, a true informal leader, Vetran Leadership is huge when dealing with young men.

Stat-2 He is a true gamer, gives 100% all the time, he'll have no issue playing behind McCoy, his touches will be down but his yards per carry will still be over 3.5 per touch.

Stat-3 He knows how to get the tough yards, look at his conversion rate on 3-1

Stat-4 He likes Buffalo and they like him, Fred's career kind of mimics Buffalo the little know player from D-3, and Buffalo vs the NFL

Stat-5 I like him and I would to see him go out a winner, and this year we're going to the play offs with Freddie!!!!!

[QB Bills]

My prediction: Freddie will have a higher yards per carry average than McCoy this season.

[ndirish1978]

So let me get this straight......

 

The bills go out and get the 3rd best RB in the league in the offseason

 

And we are bitching about Fred Jackson.....pretty much the heart of the team......and his whatever carries he might get behind McCoy?

 

This is a NON issue here.......

 

+1 There are several posters on this board who revel in going against the grain.

[Maury Ballstein]

My prediction: Freddie will have a higher yards per carry average than McCoy this season.

That's a spicy.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Stats are useful tools, but they never tell the whole story. I think that everybody, even Buffaloed in Pa, knows how valuable Fred has been to this team. But, let's get real, here. This will be Fred's last season. We all know it. His role will be limited, sure. But, he will still be an asset in his limited role, both on and off the field. He will retire a Bill at the end of the season, and I hope they retire his number. There should never be another 22 in a Bills uniform.

 

Now leave it alone.

Well said.

 

The problem is some people in here create a strawman to tear it down. They say Fred is the feature back and that he is no good. But he is not a feature back-- he will be an effective backup and 3rd down back. I think we will see him e productive and tough, and then retire after this year.

[Cold Front]

141 carries for 525 yds 3.7 ypc. 2tds 5 yes ,5 fumbles in 141 carries. 3 fumbles 2013 5 fumbles 2012 .

Your personal vendetta against Fred Jackson is almost as laughable. Your thread title clearly says

 

"Freds rushing stats last year"

 

And your Op? "141 carries for 525 yds 3.7 ypc. 2tds 5 yes ,5 fumbles in 141 carries. 3 fumbles 2013 5 fumbles 2012 ."

 

Freddy's fumbles last year: RUSHING 0, receiving 3, punt returns 2. 0 fumbles were lost, 4 were recovered, and 1 went out of

 

bounds. So that is 0 fumbles in 141 carries not 5. Punt return and receptions are not carries.

 

http://www.nfl.com/player/fredjackson/2506871/careerstats

 

Fred has 27 career fumbles in 106 games. That is 15 rushing, 8 receiving, 1 on kick return, and 3 on punt returns. 11 fumbles lost.

 

By comparison;

 

Adrian Peterson 31 fumbles in 104 games. 27 rushing, 4 receiving. 0 on kick returns and punt returns. 19 fumbles lost.

Demarco Murry 12 fumbles in 53 games. 8 rushing , 4 receiving. 0 on kick returns and punt returns. 8 fumbles lost.

CJ Spiller 17 fumbles in 70 games. 13 rushing, 1 receiving. 2 on kick returns and 1 on punt returns. 8 fumbles lost.

 

I don't think AP's 31 fumbles means that he sucks!

 

The say the offensive unit regressed under Marrone and Hackett is an understatement. What has become apparent to me is Doug

 

Marrone received too much credit for his perceived success while he was O.C of the Saint's. You criticize freddy for having 3.7 ypc,

 

while Spiller managed 3.8 ypc and the "nameless back" had 3.5 ypc behind the same line. In 2012 "the nameless one" had 115

 

carries for 564 yds. behind one of the best o-lines in football. So much for bigger faster stronger. Fred Jackson has been consistent

 

and dependable. He picks up 1st downs. He moves the chains and picks up tough yardage. Unfortunately a player's will and heart do

 

not show up in their stats. CJ is electrifying carrying the ball, but he is also inconsistent. Many here will remember the Cleveland

 

game in 2013 where EJ was hurt and we lost. That game CJ broke 54 yard touchdown run. CJ finished that game going 8 carries for

 

66 yds for 8.3 ypc and a touchdown. The 7 drive killing carries where his touches averaged 1.71 yards are what gets forgotten and

 

overlooked.

Edited March 27, 2015 by Cold Front

[Buffaloed in Pa]

Your personal vendetta against Fred Jackson is almost as laughable. Your thread title clearly says

 

"Freds rushing stats last year"

 

And your Op? "141 carries for 525 yds 3.7 ypc. 2tds 5 yes ,5 fumbles in 141 carries. 3 fumbles 2013 5 fumbles 2012 ."

 

Freddy's fumbles last year: RUSHING 0, receiving 3, punt returns 2. 0 fumbles were lost, 4 were recovered, and 1 went out of

 

bounds. So that is 0 fumbles in 141 carries not 5. Punt return and receptions are not carries.

 

http://www.nfl.com/player/fredjackson/2506871/careerstats

 

Fred has 27 career fumbles in 106 games. That is 15 rushing, 8 receiving, 1 on kick return, and 3 on punt returns. 11 fumbles lost.

 

By comparison;

 

Adrian Peterson 31 fumbles in 104 games. 27 rushing, 4 receiving. 0 on kick returns and punt returns. 19 fumbles lost.

Demarco Murry 12 fumbles in 53 games. 8 rushing , 4 receiving. 0 on kick returns and punt returns. 8 fumbles lost.

CJ Spiller 17 fumbles in 70 games. 13 rushing, 1 receiving. 2 on kick returns and 1 on punt returns. 8 fumbles lost.

 

I don't think AP's 31 fumbles means that he sucks!

 

The say the offensive unit regressed under Marrone and Hackett is an understatement. What has become apparent to me is Doug

 

Marrone received too much credit for his perceived success while he was O.C of the Saint's. You criticize freddy for having 3.7 ypc,

 

while Spiller managed 3.8 ypc and the "nameless back" had 3.5 ypc behind the same line. In 2012 "the nameless one" had 115

 

carries for 564 yds. behind one of the best o-lines in football. So much for bigger faster stronger. Fred Jackson has been consistent

 

and dependable. He picks up 1st downs. He moves the chains and picks up tough yardage. Unfortunately a player's will and heart do

 

not show up in their stats. CJ is electrifying carrying the ball, but he is also inconsistent. Many here will remember the Cleveland

 

game in 2013 where EJ was hurt and we lost. That game CJ broke 54 yard touchdown run. CJ finished that game going 8 carries for

 

66 yds for 8.3 ypc and a touchdown. The 7 drive killing carries where his touches averaged 1.71 yards are what gets forgotten and

 

overlooked.

I saw 3 hall of fame players on the Bills let go ,when their skills faded. What the hell did Fred lead the league in ever. When your done Mediocre back on a year after year losing team. Could never be a # 1 back . That's why he shared. Maybe they should get a statue for him too. Time for him to spend time with the family or become a coach of some type. I can tell you Whaley wanted him gone.

[What a Tuel]

I saw 3 hall of fame players on the Bills let go ,when their skills faded. What the hell did Fred lead the league in ever. When your done Mediocre back on a year after year losing team. Could never be a # 1 back . That's why he shared. Maybe they should get a statue for him too. Time for him to spend time with the family or become a coach of some type. I can tell you Whaley wanted him gone.

 

Why does he have to be a top RB to retain him? He does his job very well, and is still doing his job very well. We signed the top RB, but have room behind McCoy for a Jackson type player. Our run game was poor all around last year. We went from 2nd in 2013 to 25th in 2014. The entire offense regressed last year, and it wasn't because Fred was a year older.

 

In 2013 Fred Jackson ranked 34th in the entire league in all purpose yardage which includes all WR's RB's and TE's. You might say 34th is bad, but it is in company with players like Brandon Marshall, Darren Sproles, Frank Gore, Le'Veon Bell, Jordie Nelson.

 

That is not mediocre. You are wrong.

Edited March 27, 2015 by What a Tuel

[HalftimeAdjustment]

I saw 3 hall of fame players on the Bills let go ,when their skills faded. What the hell did Fred lead the league in ever. When your done Mediocre back on a year after year losing team. Could never be a # 1 back . That's why he shared. Maybe they should get a statue for him too. Time for him to spend time with the family or become a coach of some type. I can tell you Whaley wanted him gone.

You can tell us Whaley wanted him gone? How do you know that... Did he tell you personally, Bryce?

[RealityCheck]

141 carries for 525 yds 3.7 ypc. 2tds 5 yes ,5 fumbles in 141 carries. 3 fumbles 2013 5 fumbles 2012 .

Thank you for not including the stats of the other RBs over the same time period. Context is always so problematic.

[Lurker]

This thread has run its course and has little to offer other than rebuttals to a personal vendetta.

 

Lock it...

[FireChan]

Your personal vendetta against Fred Jackson is almost as laughable. Your thread title clearly says

 

"Freds rushing stats last year"

 

And your Op? "141 carries for 525 yds 3.7 ypc. 2tds 5 yes ,5 fumbles in 141 carries. 3 fumbles 2013 5 fumbles 2012 ."

 

Freddy's fumbles last year: RUSHING 0, receiving 3, punt returns 2. 0 fumbles were lost, 4 were recovered, and 1 went out of

 

bounds. So that is 0 fumbles in 141 carries not 5. Punt return and receptions are not carries.

 

http://www.nfl.com/player/fredjackson/2506871/careerstats

 

Fred has 27 career fumbles in 106 games. That is 15 rushing, 8 receiving, 1 on kick return, and 3 on punt returns. 11 fumbles lost.

 

By comparison;

 

Adrian Peterson 31 fumbles in 104 games. 27 rushing, 4 receiving. 0 on kick returns and punt returns. 19 fumbles lost.

Demarco Murry 12 fumbles in 53 games. 8 rushing , 4 receiving. 0 on kick returns and punt returns. 8 fumbles lost.

CJ Spiller 17 fumbles in 70 games. 13 rushing, 1 receiving. 2 on kick returns and 1 on punt returns. 8 fumbles lost.

 

I don't think AP's 31 fumbles means that he sucks!

 

The say the offensive unit regressed under Marrone and Hackett is an understatement. What has become apparent to me is Doug

 

Marrone received too much credit for his perceived success while he was O.C of the Saint's. You criticize freddy for having 3.7 ypc,

 

while Spiller managed 3.8 ypc and the "nameless back" had 3.5 ypc behind the same line. In 2012 "the nameless one" had 115

 

carries for 564 yds. behind one of the best o-lines in football. So much for bigger faster stronger. Fred Jackson has been consistent

 

and dependable. He picks up 1st downs. He moves the chains and picks up tough yardage. Unfortunately a player's will and heart do

 

not show up in their stats. CJ is electrifying carrying the ball, but he is also inconsistent. Many here will remember the Cleveland

 

game in 2013 where EJ was hurt and we lost. That game CJ broke 54 yard touchdown run. CJ finished that game going 8 carries for

 

66 yds for 8.3 ypc and a touchdown. The 7 drive killing carries where his touches averaged 1.71 yards are what gets forgotten and

 

overlooked.

Buffaloed in PA lied, people sighed!

[Cold Front]

I saw 3 hall of fame players on the Bills let go ,when their skills faded. What the hell did Fred lead the league in ever. When your done Mediocre back on a year after year losing team. Could never be a # 1 back . That's why he shared. Maybe they should get a statue for him too. Time for him to spend time with the family or become a coach of some type. I can tell you Whaley wanted him gone.

Following the 1999 season Bruce Smith (age 36) and Thurman Thomas (age 33) were cut to get under salary cap of 62.2 million.

 

They joined Andre Reed who left as a free agent. John Butler's over spending on mediocre players like John Holecek resulted in a

 

roster purge of 31 players from the 1999 playoff squad over the next two years. Thurman went on to the Dolphins where he averaged

 

4.9 ypc before suffering a career ending knee injury against the Chargers. Bruce went to the Redskins where he put up 29 sacks

 

over the next 4 years. Following Bruce's release the Bills drafted their bigger, faster, and stronger replacement Erik Flowers who

 

managed to put up 5 sacks over the course of his 7 year career in the NFL.

 

Imo, you cannot judge a rb's production solely on ypc. since screens and passes to the flat are an extension of a running play. Last

 

season Fred had 207 touches rushing/ receiving offensively for a total of 1026 yards. That's roughly 4.96 yards per touch.

Edited March 27, 2015 by Cold Front

[Hapless Bills Fan]

I saw 3 hall of fame players on the Bills let go ,when their skills faded. What the hell did Fred lead the league in ever. When your done Mediocre back on a year after year losing team. Could never be a # 1 back . That's why he shared. Maybe they should get a statue for him too. Time for him to spend time with the family or become a coach of some type. I can tell you Whaley wanted him gone.

 

And your source for this statement is?

 

The only publically available statement is that Whaley was asked "whether he ever had the intention of releasing veteran running back Fred Jackson" and he said "no".

Maybe someone in the Bills FO or coaching staff saw him as expendable - I can understand the logic looking at the cap number, especially if you've never coached the guy.

 

Fred generated >1000 yds of offense last year behind a horrible OL with mediocre to non-existant blocking and a mediocre QB

 

I say either back up your statement or hush.

Edited March 27, 2015 by Hopeful

[Buffaloed in Pa]

 

And your source for this statement is?

 

The only publically available statement is that Whaley was asked "whether he ever had the intention of releasing veteran running back Fred Jackson" and he said "no".

Maybe someone in the Bills FO or coaching staff saw him as expendable - I can understand the logic looking at the cap number, especially if you've never coached the guy.

 

Fred generated >1000 yds of offense last year behind a horrible OL with mediocre to non-existant blocking and a mediocre QB

 

I say either back up your statement or hush.

That`s why we kept losing. Fred type talent.

[BuffaloBill]

Can we complain about Chris Hogan's stats in this thread too?

Please do....

[What a Tuel]

That`s why we kept losing. Fred type talent.

 

Now you are just trolling

[OldNMBillsFan]

Fred does more than run the ball. IMO, he is one of the best at protecting the QB. Did anyone see when Fred upended JJ Watt at Houston? JJ looked back at him like, who the heck was that.

I couldn't find a video of that, but here are some of my all time favorite Fred moments. Age may slow his him down a step or two, but his experience in the backfield while protecting the QB is irreplaceable.

 

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2014090702/2014/REG1/bills@bears?icampaign=GC_schedule_rr#menu=gameinfo%7CcontentId%3A0ap3000000390761&tab=videos

 

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2013090800/2013/REG1/patriots@bills?icampaign=GC_schedule_rr#menu=gameinfo%7CcontentId%3A0ap2000000240169&tab=videos

 

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2011112002/2011/REG11/bills@dolphins?icampaign=GC_schedule_rr#menu=gameinfo%7CcontentId%3A09000d5d8244a171&tab=videos

[Jim in Anchorage]

That`s why we kept losing. Fred type talent.

Yeah he's a real liability.

 

http://twitpic.com/ec8270

[3rdand12]

so we have KTRubbs and Buffaloed in Pa running an Anti Fred campaign. I just dont see the point of these types of dialogues , if they can be described as such.

 

 

" Yeah Lick bag he's got to go hurting this team for real ... People in a previous thread saying chandler ran a 10.0... Joking obviously but I think they mistaken him for Freddy "

 

 

i dont even know what this means ?^

 

but Lick Bag part was pretty funny i thought : ))

any one who knows the Bills play for play know what Jackson has done for this team , through sickness and in health , for better or worse.

 

Till death ( or retirement) do us part.

 

 

 

and let us pray for those less fortunate of mind and or body than us here today. amen.

Edited March 27, 2015 by 3rdand12