gjv001 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 How does Marrone speak to "team first", "unselfish sacrifice for the team", " play for each other", etc,etc, etc, all the things head coaches try to instill into their players. Will his new players find him credible when he speaks to those issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) While the opt out clause "obviously" allows Doug to leave, it feels to many players and fans (myself included) that leaving before the contract expires is quitting before the job is done. Syracuse fans and players felts the same. The only things Doug has proven in his head coaching career is: (1) he has a talent for taking over bad teams and making them average, and (2) he has no loyalty. If I was a NFL owner, GM, or player, I'd have concerns about him. Edited January 1, 2015 by hondo in seattle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobblehead Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 How does Marrone speak to "team first", "unselfish sacrifice for the team", " play for each other", etc,etc, etc, all the things head coaches try to instill into their players. Will his new players find him credible when he speaks to those issues? The league is too cutthroat for anyone to care. That s until they get screwed themselves.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 bull ****. He made a sound business decision (see the other opt-out thread for that discussion). For the millionth time, the NFL is a business first to everyone but the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I think Marrones credibility as a human being taken a hit. Knowing what we all know now about this maurader, who the hells gonna buy into his hollow tones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 bull ****. He made a sound business decision (see the other opt-out thread for that discussion). For the millionth time, the NFL is a business first to everyone but the fans. And when doing business people consider the character and trustworthiness of people they do business with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 bull ****. He made a sound business decision (see the other opt-out thread for that discussion). For the millionth time, the NFL is a business first to everyone but the fans. +1 If you subscribe to the "he didn't finish the job" approach then you then put yourself into a position of holding the team to the same standard when they fire a coach. It's just not a defensible position in a multibillion dollar BUSINESS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) And when doing business people consider the character and trustworthiness of people they do business with. Character and trustworthiness? He didn't hold out. He simply exercised his contractual option, one that Whaley and Brandon gave him. If you want to be pissed at someone, be pissed at Brandon and Whaley for giving contractual terms that made it crazy for the coach to stay with the Bills to a mediocre HC. Edited January 1, 2015 by CodeMonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 This is very similar to the way Bill O'Brien left Penn State. Many said the same things "new players wont find him credible, etc.". Players are (rightfully) miffed, but at the end of the day its business, and people will move on. I think its crappy that both O'Brien and Marrone left without even telling their current players that they were leaving, but I guess that is what you should expect since they are both best of friends, and decendents from the Belichick tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Character and trustworthiness? He didn't hold out. He simply exercised his contractual option, one that Whaley and Brandon gave him. If you want to be pissed at someone, be pissed at Brandon and Whaley for giving contractual terms that made it crazy for the coach to stay with the Bills to a mediocre HC. Whaley didn't give it to him. And what is crazy about just keeping your job for your contract? He didn't have to take the money although I'm glad he did. Wait til you see what Pegula is willing to pay for coaches and good coordinators in the next ten years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Flutie Band Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 He quit to go coach a big name franchise like SF or CHI. He will get a job. No one will blame him for leaving the Bills. The whole thing is very obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 bull ****. He made a sound business decision (see the other opt-out thread for that discussion). For the millionth time, the NFL is a business first to everyone but the fans. Really? Aaron Williams seemed pissed. I work in the business world and business is never all business. Loyality and integrity matter to many people. Many, many times I've seen business folks make business decisions because of loyalty. Those who give the most loyalty usually get the most loyalty so it ends up paying off. But you're right that it was a sound business decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Character and trustworthiness? He didn't hold out. He simply exercised his contractual option, one that Whaley and Brandon gave him. If you want to be pissed at someone, be pissed at Brandon and Whaley for giving contractual terms that made it crazy for the coach to stay with the Bills to a mediocre HC. The thread wasn't about being pissed, it was about his credibility as a HC. He's starting to develop a pattern of cutting out early. There's a reason companies are cautious about applicants who bounce from company to company every year or two. It's his decision if he wants to be an opportunist, but if you know you're dealing with someone who's only out for #1 with no sense of loyalty, that knowledge will probably factor in to how/If you do business with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Mehta hates him already @MMehtaNYDN: Column: Jets coaching search takes sleazy turn as consultants apparently pushing Doug Marrone on Woody Johnson #nyj http://t.co/MV4HVYTZfQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Flutie Band Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 His credibility took a hit with BILLS FANS and a few BILLS PLAYERS but that is really it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 And when doing business people consider the character and trustworthiness of people they do business with. Rob he didn't screw them anymore than a player who exercises his option to test free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 In all likelihood he was being loyal to his staff. Stupidly I might add. But he probably quit because the team wanted him to get rid of some coaches and he refused. That's being loyal. Dumb, but loyal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Rob he didn't screw them anymore than a player who exercises his option to test free agency. I didn't say he screwed them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I didn't say he screwed them. Right, but when someone exercises their right in a contract, it does not impugn their character or trustworthiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juno999 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Marrone made a business decision in a business that can be brutal at times. I don't think any future bills coach will be afforded an opt clause going forward. IMO despite the contract language he quit. He couldn't handle the uncertainty and bolted. I'm puzzled that he thinks the Jets and the NY media is a better situation for him should he go there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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