hondo in seattle Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Somewhere I saw Hue Jackson's name mentioned as a possibility. That's someone I don't want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Mulaarky Gaily Jauron Greg Williams AND Doug Marrone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 "I absolutely LOVE this idea and thread!!!!!!" - Jerry Sullivan and Bucky Gleason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Cowher. I've never been that big of a fan of his. Yes he won a Super Bowl, but he also believed that Kordell Stewart could be a successful QB in the NFL. No thanks. Kubiak. Another great OC that is not good enough as a coach. Ryan. Not interested, and I don't think we should consider him as a DC either, because we would have to change our defensive philosophy again. Marvin Lewis. I know, I know. He's still coaching. But if the Bengals lose to the Colts, he will have a career playoff record of 0-6. Also his overall regular season record is not that great. It's amazing that he is still coaching there. If he does get fired, just say no. Mark I agree with most of your list. But despite Cowher's fairly long stint of being a very successful head coach, you don't want him based on one mistake? Do I have that right? And we should note, in the years Stewart played, the Steelers didn't to too badly. Was it a mistake? I have to think it was. But what head coach is without a mistake? If he could win with Kordell then that should be more of a reason to hire him, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I don't know who I want. I think the philosophy they had when they hired Marrone was correct. Hire some one that potentially will be the HC for years. Marrone was the wrong guy, obviously. I don't think Cowher would be in for the long haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 "I absolutely LOVE this idea and thread!!!!!!" - Jerry Sullivan and Bucky Gleason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I'm surprised to see the lack of love for Dungy and Cowher. Cowher took his team to the playoffs 10 of 15 years despite QBs and other personnel coming and going. He accumulated a 140-90-1 regular season record and a 12-9 postseason record. Compare his 15 years of success to our last 15 years with no playoff appearances at all. Dungy turned two teams into winners. He made it to the playoffs 12 of 14 years - in different cities with different personnel. He went 139-69 in his 14 years. I'd be crying with joy if the Bills had that record over our last 14 years. Both Cowher and Dungy have won Super Bowls. No Bills coach has ever done that. How can Dungy or Cowher not be an upgrade over Marrone who went 25-25 with the Orange and 15-17 with us? In fact, how can they not be better choices than mediocre retreads like Rex or unproven coordinators with no HC experience? You can't argue with winning and both Cowher and Dungy have proven they know how to win in the NFL. Don't you know? We need the best, most up and coming coordinator that guarantees us that he will get wins, doesn't ask too much money and wants to be in Buffalo more than life itself…and if he takes another job in another city for the same money, he's a jackass and we didn't want him here anyway. Other than that, we want proven HC that has been successful inside of the last decade by their own merits NOT their QB, OL or defense…because that is riding coat tails. In addition, they must want the lower end of market rates, want to be in Buffalo and be psyched to not have a QB or 1st rounder. No retreads, especially if they are paid to analyze today's game on TV every week to go with their SB win and immense credibility for putting winners together. Other than that, the most ideal situation would be to bring back Chan and have Fitz as QB. -offseason is on like a MOFO at 2BD with another coaching change! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I think the Steelers do it the other way. They already have everything in place, and just move guys up through the organization, instead of having a coach come in and build it up. Cowher didn't "build" the Steelers, he took over the reins. Mike Tomlin is doing pretty much the same thing with the Steelers. I think the Steelers organization is so solid, with well defined roles for everyone in the organization, that any decent coach on their staff can step right in. I think Bill Cowher is way overrated, and a media celebrity. In every city that needs a coach, casual female fans trying to discuss football with hardcore fans will all say "I want Bill Cowher as our new coach". I don't think he has an interest in jumping back into coaching for any team that isn't already elite. He has nothing to gain, and a legend to lose. I agree with most of this except for the part I bolded. There is certainly something to the Steeler system, But part of that system includes filling positions with good people - like Cowher. It's true that Cowher did not inherit a train wreck from Chuck Noll when he retired. But Chuck won 38 games in his last 5 years as coach: Cowher won 53 in his first five years. In other words, Cowher improved upon what he was given. But you're last statement "He has nothing to gain, and a legend to lose" probably succinctly sums up the reality of the situation. Cowher's not going to coach here or anywhere else - much to my disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I agree with most of this except for the part I bolded. There is certainly something to the Steeler system, But part of that system includes filling positions with good people - like Cowher. It's true that Cowher did not inherit a train wreck from Chuck Noll when he retired. But Chuck won 38 games in his last 5 years as coach: Cowher won 53 in his first five years. In other words, Cowher improved upon what he was given. But you're last statement "He has nothing to gain, and a legend to lose" probably succinctly sums up the reality of the situation. Cowher's not going to coach here or anywhere else - much to my disappointment. I think he is good, maybe very good, but not such a good candidate that EVERY season the first name for any coaching vacancy (or even coach on the hot seat) is "Bill Cowher". I think that is mostly his celebrity at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 If we all had veto power, there'd be nobody left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Please god no,Haslett,Del Rio,or Marty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Cable seems like he would be a good fit for Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Cable seems like he would be a good fit for Buffalo. Keep them on broadcast TV. Wait----what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Mark I agree with most of your list. But despite Cowher's fairly long stint of being a very successful head coach, you don't want him based on one mistake? Do I have that right? And we should note, in the years Stewart played, the Steelers didn't to too badly. Was it a mistake? I have to think it was. But what head coach is without a mistake? If he could win with Kordell then that should be more of a reason to hire him, IMO. The Dean, I understand what you are getting at. Yes, Cowher did have some success from Stewart. Yes, I am pointing out that one mistake, but it was a big mistake. I just wonder how successful Cowher would have been if he'd had a real QB on his team. Look what happened when Roethlisberger showed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 The Dean, I understand what you are getting at. Yes, Cowher did have some success from Stewart. Yes, I am pointing out that one mistake, but it was a big mistake. I just wonder how successful Cowher would have been if he'd had a real QB on his team. Look what happened when Roethlisberger showed up. You can pretty much say that about most HCs. Cowher was pretty successful with O'Donnell and Stewart. His record at the 'Burgh was 149-90. He won't be the GM. So I say: I'm All In With The Chin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 You can pretty much say that about most HCs. Cowher was pretty successful with O'Donnell and Stewart. His record at the 'Burgh was 149-90. He won't be the GM. So I say: I'm All In With The Chin! I know you can say that about any coach, but that was so glaring to me. O'Donnell was a decent QB and Stewart was below average. Fortunately Cowher had Bettis to fall back on and a stifling defense. If Cowher is the choice I will support the team's decision, but I will be cautious. I also think that Cowher's absence from the game for so long is something to consider too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Ha ha, Les is a disaster. Has anyone ever done less with the talent that they have than Miles?? no, but his press conferences are pure gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I know you can say that about any coach, but that was so glaring to me. O'Donnell was a decent QB and Stewart was below average. Fortunately Cowher had Bettis to fall back on and a stifling defense. If Cowher is the choice I will support the team's decision, but I will be cautious. I also think that Cowher's absence from the game for so long is something to consider too. That is the only real concern I have with Bill C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) That is the only real concern I have with Bill C. IMO Dan Quinn (Seattle DC) is the young version of Bill Cowher. I've been supportive of Reich, Bevell and Bowles as possible head coaches for the Bills, but after doing more research on other possible candidates for HC, Dan Quinn not only looks like Cowher but he sounds like him too. Go watch some videos of his press conferences on the Seahawks website. He has a commanding demeanor and I can see him being a 10 year head coach for the team that gives him a shot. Can you see players wanting to play for him, can you see someone with both intensity and likability. I definitely do. I know he'd be a rookie HC and he comes from the defensive side of the ball, but that isn't the deciding factor for me. A head coach needs to have a presence more than anything else. I'm sure that he has a great OC lined up when he gets his first head coaching job. Heck, it could even be Tom Cable. But I would suspect that it would be someone even better. Reich, Bevell and Bowles just don't pass the smell test in terms of commanding an NFL team. Reich seems way too quite and reserved, Bevell's personality gives me a bad vibe (seems a little immature?) and Bowles is too "still waters run deep" for my liking as an NFL head coach. I went down the list of teams we're playing in 2015 and I wondered how I would feel with them coaching the Bills in the tough games vs Coughlin, Garrett, Kelly, Belichick, Reid, Lewis. I wasn't comfortable with any of them. I'm good with Quinn against those coaches. Dan Quinn comes off as a regular football guy who's the very best at his job and who's ready to become a head coach, there's no fakeness there and he looks like he'd be a very dynamic presence in an NFL locker room. Much like Bill Cowher was when he first started as a head coach. I don't care about the wait, I hope he's our next head coach. As for Schwartz, I don't think he'll ever be a good HC because he would never command respect. That's why he always had problems with discipline on his teams. The Lions acted and played like they had a substitute teacher coaching them. You either have that gene or you don't and he doesn't. Edited January 2, 2015 by 1billsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 IMO Dan Quinn (Seattle DC) is the young version of Bill Cowher. I've been supportive of Reich, Bevell and Bowles as possible head coaches for the Bills, but after doing more research on other possible candidates for HC, Dan Quinn not only looks like Cowher but he sounds like him too. Go watch some videos of his press conferences on the Seahawks website. He has a commanding demeanor and I can see him being a 10 year head coach for the team that gives him a shot. Can you see players wanting to play for him, can you see someone with both intensity and likability. I definitely do. I know he'd be a rookie HC and he comes from the defensive side of the ball, but that isn't the deciding factor for me. A head coach needs to have a presence more than anything else. I'm sure that he has a great OC lined up when he gets his first head coaching job. Heck, it could even be Tom Cable. But I would suspect that it would be someone even better. Reich, Bevell and Bowles just don't pass the smell test in terms of commanding an NFL team. Reich seems way too quite and reserved, Bevell's personality gives me a bad vibe (seems a little immature?) and Bowles is too "still waters run deep" for my liking as an NFL head coach. I went down the list of teams we're playing in 2015 and I wondered how I would feel with them coaching the Bills in the tough games vs Coughlin, Garrett, Kelly, Belichick, Reid, Lewis. I wasn't comfortable with any of them. I'm good with Quinn against those coaches. Dan Quinn comes off as a regular football guy who's the very best at his job and who's ready to become a head coach, there's no fakeness there and he looks like he'd be a very dynamic presence in an NFL locker room. Much like Bill Cowher was when he first started as a head coach. I don't care about the wait, I hope he's our next head coach. As for Schwartz, I don't think he'll ever be a good HC because he would never command respect. That's why he always had problems with discipline on his teams. The Lions acted and played like they had a substitute teacher coaching them. You either have that gene or you don't and he doesn't. He certainly commands respect and gets his guys to play hard for him. He has the track record as a DC, time on his side, and with another Seattle SB run probably looking for his pay day and chance at a HC job. Not a bad deal learning from Pete Carroll as well. You're absolutely right….he also has that glare like the chin had. I remember when a Steeler made a mistake or dumb play, heading to the sideline, the first person to greet him was always this guy: We need a little of that here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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