26CornerBlitz Posted December 15, 2014 Author Share Posted December 15, 2014 I'm glad we beat GB. it was impressive. But does anyone here really think we're going to beat the Pats in NE? If they can shut down Manning and Rodgers, then why not? The one caveat is how do they deal with Gronk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 If they can shut down Manning and Rodgers, then why not? The one caveat is how do they deal with Gronk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 15, 2014 Author Share Posted December 15, 2014 LMAO. Of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBillsWillRiseAgain Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 If they can shut down Manning and Rodgers, then why not? The one caveat is how do they deal with Gronk? Because The Bills rarely play Rodgers or Manning. On the other hand, they play Tom Brady and Bill Bellichick twice a year every year. They've proven for a decade and a half that they can gameplan to completely dominate whatever roster the Bills have on the field and pull out a win. Brady's career record against the Bills is like 23-2. Also, they haven't lost a conference game at home in almost like 7 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 15, 2014 Author Share Posted December 15, 2014 Because The Bills rarely play Rodgers or Manning. On the other hand, they play Tom Brady and Bill Bellichick twice a year every year. They've proven for a decade and a half that they can gameplan to completely dominate whatever roster the Bills have on the field and pull out a win. Brady's career record against the Bills is like 23-2. Also, they haven't lost a conference game at home in almost like 7 years. They're due for a loss. Why not the Bills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felonious Monk Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I'm glad we beat GB. it was impressive. But does anyone here really think we're going to beat the Pats in NE? Why not? Is there some written rule I'm not aware of which states the Pats will win at home for eternity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koufax Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I'm glad we beat GB. it was impressive. But does anyone here really think we're going to beat the Pats in NE? Not this weekend we aren't. We are going to try to beat the Raiders first. After that we will have as many as four straight need to win games on the road against very good teams before the Super Bowl. If we come up short to the Patriots or in the wild card game or the divisional playoffs or the AFC championship I will be disappointed after that happens, but beating the Raiders is all that stands between us and effectively starting the playoffs a week early and not playing any meaningless football all season. We know Belichick doesn't rest his starters, etc. We also know that the game could very well matter enormously to them and decide the location of the AFC championship game. So we know that we won't have an easy time of it. But after limiting Manning and Rodgers, I'm pretty sure this defense is ready to take on Brady and if a couple plays go our way on special teams and offense there isn't any reason an upset can't happen like when the 16-0 Pats played the 9-7 Giants. I don't think Kyle Orton wins a Super Bowl this year, and I think beating the Patriots in week 17 is a tough thing, just like beating Andrew Luck in the Wild Card game the following week would be, or the Patriots or Broncos in the divisional playoffs the week after that. But getting a chance to play one or more of those games and see what happens is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I just want the bills to win Sunday and everything else fall our way. Then we lose to the pats in soul crushing fashion so everyone can talk about how close we were in 2014 like we have since losing to the Steelers scrubs in 2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBillsWillRiseAgain Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 They're due for a loss. Why not the Bills? Aside from the "any given Sunday' thing I just don't think we have a great chance of winning. I'd love to be wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 (edited) Why not? Is there some written rule I'm not aware of which states the Pats will win at home for eternity? Past success is not a guarentee of future results. It's like the 3.5% odds to make the playoffs we keep seeing. It only serves to demoralize and turn the fanbase in on itself. We can win this game, but first lets go to oakland and take care of business. Edited December 15, 2014 by What a Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 15, 2014 Author Share Posted December 15, 2014 Aside from the "any given Sunday' thing I just don't think we have a great chance of winning. I'd love to be wrong though. I'm just throwing out bravado and rationalization since I don't have to be at the stadium in uniform on the 28th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBillsWillRiseAgain Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Beating the Pats in NE in week 17 would be just as good for me as making the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Seems like Brad has it boiled down? Brad Riter @BradRiter Bills playoffs made simple: BUF wins 2. SD/KC each lose 1. One of CIN/PIT/BAL loses 2. isn't it 2 of cin/bal & pit needs to lose 2 along with 1 loss by each of kc/sd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 isn't it 2 of cin/bal & pit needs to lose 2 along with 1 loss by each of kc/sd No it is not. However, if 2 of Cin/Bal/Pit lose two games then we only need 1 loss by either KC or SD, not both anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 (edited) isn't it 2 of cin/bal & pit needs to lose 2 along with 1 loss by each of kc/sd Assuming KC + SD lose one each Cincinatti - 2-0 Pittsburgh - 1-1 Baltimore - 1-1 We don't get in. Cincinatti - 1-1 Pittsburgh - 1-1 Baltimore - 2-0 We don't get in. Cincinatti - 1-1 Pittsburgh - 2-0 Baltimore - 1-1 We get in We are really rooting for Pittsburgh. Or else we will need to rely on two of the AFC North teams losing 2 games like you describe. Or this situation Edited December 15, 2014 by What a Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 This low % that they are giving us for making the playoffs - I would assume that that is because the Gods who are figuring this out are giving us little chance of beating the Patriots? If so, is there a % out there of us getting in, assuming we win our next two? (Which is the whole point, to me.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoo poonani Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 There is no scenario where we control our own destiny going in to week 17. None, zero, zilch. If what you are saying happens we could still be eliminated with a win vs Pats and wins by Baltimore and Cincy in week 17. Cincy would win division and Baltimore and Pittsburgh would be Wild Cards. Well that is just what the ESPN playoff machine said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I'm done correcting the ESPN playoff machine. I've done it numerous times in numerous threads. They don't do the tie-breaker properly with the Ravens. Look back a few pages for the explanation. Computers are not perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 (edited) For everyone who keeps posting that we get in over the Ravens with the same record...IT IS NOT TRUE. The ESPN playoff machine, which everyone seems to point to and use does not do the tie breaker with the Ravens properly. They have the tie breaker over us based on win% vs common opponents. SOV, which ESPN is utilizing, is the tie breaker right after that. The only team that we could potentially win a tie-breaker over is the Cleveland Browns and it isn't going to come down to that, you can put that in the bank. We lose Tie Breaker to SD, KC, PIT, CIN, and BAL. KC and SD because of head to head, PIT and CIN because of AFC record, Baltimore because of win % vs common opponents. I'm putting this in it's own thread so everyone can see it and they don't have to keep posting about it in the other threads. Link to rule on nfl.com: http://www.nfl.com/s...akingprocedures If anyone can prove to me otherwise without saying "that's what ESPN playoff machine" says, then I will be very, very impressed. Edited December 15, 2014 by Mark80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 (edited) Edit: The ESPN playoff machine seems to be working properly now, I can no longer get a situation to show the Bills at #6 while the Ravens are out of the playoffs with the same 10-6 record (or any other team at 10-6 for that matter). Edited December 15, 2014 by Mark80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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