Virgil Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I've thought this for a while now. For a penalty that most players say happen on every play in some form, 10 yards is a drive killer. Almost everything else, besides a personal foul, is only 5. I think this makes almost too much sense to drop it to 5 yards, but I don't think I've ever heard it talked about. Am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Holding can be used to save a sack. A sack loses, roughly, 7-10 yards. Its already too easy for offenses, im fine with 10as long as they're consistent with their calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don't stop billievein Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Only when the bills are on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Holding can be used to save a sack. A sack loses, roughly, 7-10 yards. Its already too easy for offenses, im fine with 10as long as they're consistent with their calls. 7-10 yards and a down too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 5 yrds does make more sense than 10 but holding calls are a joke to begin with. Some plays will have 3 major O-holds and get no call at all & then other times holding gets called for nothing at all. It's the way the officiating controls the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Defensive holding is only a 5 yard penalty, but it accrues a 1st down. Maybe change it to 5 yards and a loss of down for offensive holding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Reducing to 5 yards would mean more holding penalties called bc teams would rather take the penalty and keep the down rather then the sack which usually end up as more than a 5 yard loss. This is exactly why offensive holding is ten yards and not five Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) The penalty that needs to be addressed is defensive pass interference. If the refs are going to call it like it's going out of style then the mark off needs to be reduced. Maybe to the college rule- spot foul up to 15 yards max. I think holding is probably fine. Edited October 26, 2014 by vincec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Reducing to 5 yards would mean more holding penalties called bc teams would rather take the penalty and keep the down rather then the sack which usually end up as more than a 5 yard loss. This is exactly why offensive holding is ten yards and not five This^^ Why would you want to encourage more holding than there already is? If anything, they could make the offensive holding a bigger penalty than it already is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) The penalty that needs to be addressed is defensive pass interference. If the refs are going to call it like it's going out of style then the mark off needs to be reduced. Maybe to the college rule- spot foul up to 15 yards max. I think holding is probably fine. Don't like this either, why create a situation where you give the defense of a break by intentionally taking a penalty? This would only cause more penalties where every time a player is beat he just takes the 15 yard penalty instead of giving up a big play. Edited October 26, 2014 by Max997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryhood280 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Hasn't it already been changed to ten yards from the spot of the foul if the hold is past the line of scrimmage? As in a 50 yard run wouldn't come all the way back if there was a hold at the end of it. I could swear I've seen this called at a few points thus far this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Here's my pet peeve, A D-lineman jumps the count and is offsides, the O lineman though, maybe never saw the guy jump early or instincts take over so to prevent a sack hold the guy and it ends up off-setting penalties and replay the down. Somehow that just doesn't sound fair to me as the offisdes which occurred first likely caused the o-lineman to hold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I would go the other way. Holding happens way too often and should be penalized more. It should be a loss of down and 10 yards from the spot of the foul - which assumes the player would have been tackled at the spot of the hold or sooner. The O should not get a re-do by getting the down back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I "think" it was 5 yards years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 For the pats*, it's not even a penalty. WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallskiWallski83 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Maybe. i think illegal contact should be a 5 yard penalty and replay of down rather than an automatic first down. Its super annoying on a 3rd and 14 when theres an illegal contact called and the offense gets a first down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Jerome Boger will be prancing around saying "respect my authoritah" like Cartman on South Park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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