BigBuff423 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 How, does a thread like this even get started? I'm as much an EJ doubter as the next guy, a "wait-and-see" type of approach to see if EJ has the season long chops to be their answer at QB, but c'mon man??!!! Really?? EJ has shown some real, demonstrative progress and Eli is starting his decline and you want to trade CJ on top of it?? Man, sometimes this board....woof! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Eli - 61.6 Completion % - 440 YDS - 3TD - 4 INT - 69.2 Rating EJ - 66.7 Completion % - 375 YDS - 2TD - 1 INT - 95.4 Rating To Answer the question. Hell effing no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 in a way I feel sorry for him because he comes across as a good dude. But with a crappy o-line and 1 wide out..welcome to Fitzpatrick's days with the bills only Eli's defense doesnt give up 35 a game. Much like Russel Wilson so much easier to win when the defense give up 13 or less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Why are we talking about Eli Manning? ummmm because? ....... people are stupid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mousetrap08 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 What in the world are you smoking? I'm not sure if I want some, or if it should be treated as something as dangerous as plutonium. I agree with you 100000% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I like it...but I think you may have to toss in some defensive bait like Mario to get them to bite. :blink: That's to get Skelton though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 One very important thing to not forget about Eli is that he is eating up 20 Mil in cap space on Giants this year. Next year he is projected to have an impact of ~19.75 Mil. Hard to cobble together a talented team when your not so elite QB has that much of a cap hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Archie's strange request to Eli: http://profootballmock.com/iphone-text/intercepted-text-eli-mannings-dad-has-an-unusual-request/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 A few years back I wrote a post about how poorly Eli manning looked in his first years, and how much he depended on a strong run game, and O line to support him. When he had those things he would play well, and when his line / run game didn't play well he had difficulty carrying his team. The difference between from 3 seconds to 4 seconds in the pocket can mean all the difference in the world to some QB's. He is learning a new offensive system, and he no longer has those all pros on his O line. Its a team game, and the QB is only has good as his supporting cast allows him to be. To the OP, no thanks. Old QB's usually don't learn new tricks well. The Bills are currently in the process of developing a guy who could be better then Eli. JMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryCletus Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 If you were the OP, would you delete this thread? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) Do you guys not think that Whaley is CONSTANTLY reevaluating this team, EVERY WEEK, WIN or LOSE. Good GM's don't put together a team in preseason and sit on their hands. They are constantly trying to find ways to get better. I don't believe this thread was intended to be a BASH E.J. but a hypothetical given the state of Eli's play, and the Giants in need of longer term pieces to rebuild, would they be willing and would Bills be willing. Like I said, if you don't think Whaley is considering options like this or a TE or a RG or a LB, you are very naive. OMG, you are the only Naive one here if you think Whaley is sitting in his office thinking about swapping an ascending young QB who they believe in and invested in after a 2-0 start and one of our most dynamic playmakers they are talking extension with for a 0-2 QB who is a shell of what he was 2 years ago, on the decline, inconsistent, and a turnover machine. Not to mention the ludicrous idea of bringing in any QB to start for a team with no time to learn the offense, develop timing with the wideouts, etc. There is reason QB's don't get traded mid season barring some kind of injury or backup situation...becasue its nearly impossible for them to just walk in and have success. So if you think Whaley is going to trade our starting QB for anyone after our 2-0 start then you need to stop playing Madden so much. There is exactly ZERO percent chance this is being thought about, discussed, or considered by either team. Besides, the Giants already have a young QB behind Manning in Nassib that started looking good this preseason. SMH with some of these crazy threads. You would think we were 0-2 and EJ played terrible. I just don't get it. At some point, don't you guys just want to be fans and enjoy the ride rather than try and prove its not real? Geezus This thread is on par with the trade Mario for Skelton thread...did you start that one to? Edited September 16, 2014 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtDart Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 We all know that the Giants are in a rebuilding mode and there really short of offensive talent out side of Victor Cruz. If you were the Bills GM would you make this trade so the Bills could make a run at the Super Bowl this year. Bills would trade C.J Spiller and E.J. Manuel for Manning. Bryce Brown and Fred Jackson could handle the running back duties. The Giants would now have the dynamic running back they crave and a decent young QB to build around. The Bills would now have a 2 time Super Bowl gun slinging champion who knows how to get it done. I sort of like this trade a lot. I was wondering what everyone else thought. Maybe if they threw in Victor Cruz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwalter Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 put me down for no. to be fair, this is a more reasnoble question than most people are here are willing to acknowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I'm sorry it is not a reasonable question. If the question was "should the Bills pick up Eli at the end of the season when the Giants inevitably cut him as part of a complete house clean and restart?" Then it would a reasonable question, although I don't think we will know the answer until we have seen a full season of EJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 What ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronc24 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 W.T.F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 In a New York second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 He has been a good QB in this league he is coming off an awful season and has made an awful start this year and people would actually conisder giving up a young, so far improving, Quarterback and an offensive play-maker and game changer for him?? I'm sorry that doesn't make any sense. For Rodgers, for Brees, hell for Big Ben even then maybe.... for eli Manning playing as he has played the last 2 years? Not a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryCletus Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Anyone ever get the feeling that there are posters here that have several accounts so they can bring up something asinine and then agree with themselves with various usernames??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 If you were the OP, would you delete this thread? Lol Yes Anyone ever get the feeling that there are posters here that have several accounts so they can bring up something asinine and then agree with themselves with various usernames??? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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