YoloinOhio Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) Nathan Conley @NathanConley 39m We are hearing from our sources at @wfnz that the #Panthers Organization is discussing cutting Greg Hardy possible as soon as 4pm today. Wow. Edited September 17, 2014 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 WTH? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's Tailor Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) Florio says not true on twitter. Edited September 12, 2014 by billsfaninmanhattan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) with the Ray Rice situation going on there are a lof of ppl asking why Hardy is even allowed to be on the field right now considering his situation Edited September 12, 2014 by Max997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 Hardy was already found guilty of domestic violence in court. BUT he is appealing. So I would think they wait out the appeal and then decide whether to cut him. http://thebiglead.com/2014/05/16/greg-hardy-had-an-arsenal-of-weapons-straight-out-of-a-movie/#sthash.UvBTSH60.uxfs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 After Jerry Richardson's teary statement on domestic violence he probably should cut Hardy, resign, and call for Goodell to be fired. http://www.wect.com/story/26502993/video-carolina-panthers-owner-breaks-down-talking-about-domestic-violence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLynchTrain Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Hardy was already found guilty of domestic violence in court. BUT he is appealing. So I would think they wait out the appeal and then decide whether to cut him. http://thebiglead.com/2014/05/16/greg-hardy-had-an-arsenal-of-weapons-straight-out-of-a-movie/#sthash.UvBTSH60.uxfs Not defending him here, but NC has a convoluted system where you have to be found guilty by a judge before you are able to have your day in court before a jury. The judge said he's guilty so he's going to a jury. I don't think it's actually an appeal. So to say he's been found guilty isn't technically accurate at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 Not defending him here, but NC has a convoluted system where you have to be found guilty by a judge before you are able to have your day in court before a jury. The judge said he's guilty so he's going to a jury. I don't think it's actually an appeal. So to say he's been found guilty isn't technically accurate at this point We need a video! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Shouldn't Hardy be suspended for as long as Rice ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 13, 2014 Author Share Posted September 13, 2014 Shouldn't Hardy be suspended for as long as Rice ? supposedly the new rule is 6 games but they haven't done anything yet, maybe because he's appealing? I haven't really been following it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 From what I recall Hardy's situation was a lot of drama and they aren't cutting him yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 supposedly the new rule is 6 games but they haven't done anything yet, maybe because he's appealing? I haven't really been following it though. The new rule was ignored in the Ray Rice case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Nathan Conley @NathanConley 39m We are hearing from our sources at @wfnz that the #Panthers Organization is discussing cutting Greg Hardy possible as soon as 4pm today. Wow. Looks good in a Bills uniform. what happened to 6 games then lifetime ban? For a sport that is supposed to be tough these owners are jumping through hoops like cowards because of public pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hplarrm Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 supposedly the new rule is 6 games but they haven't done anything yet, maybe because he's appealing? I haven't really been following it though. Actually part of the reason the NFL and Goodell are being hoist on there on petard is that in the past two years or so when Goodell was declared judge, jury and executioner on cases involving protecting the brand, the practice has been that Goodell could lower the boom on a miscreant player even if there was no conviction yet in the case if the Commish felt the league brand was in danger. With Tagliabue and a majority of the owners forcing Ralph, the Packers (the only negative votes) and a few other holdouts who eventually voted for the new CBA which Gene Upshaw dictated even before negotiations that the designated gross was gone and the salary cap would need to be determined as a % of NFL gross receipts and that the player share needed to start with a 6, after the owners agreed to a 60.5% share for the players it became clear that the players were not only partners rather just simple employees of the teams (and arguably the majority partners actually), things changed. The NFLPA went from their old stance where they reflexively opposed all decisions by the NFL to discipline players. The NFLPA not only refused to protect idiots like PacMan Jones but in fact encouraged disciplining and suspension of him for hurting the brand which had brought unprecedented wealth to the players. My guess is that the player leadership is working hard to figure out how to get O'Neil dropped like a hot potato. Goodell has done his job so badly that its mostly a question of whether canning him now would stop the bleeding or the better strategy is to hold on to him for a year or so while things di down and then he can graciously resign to spend more time with his family. Either way Goodell is really a Dead Man Walking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDBUFFCUSEFAN Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 (edited) He still has a jury trial, the "found guilty" is misleading because the judge decides (guilty/not guilty))if a case should go to trial. Edited September 13, 2014 by NDBUFFCUSEFAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 (edited) http://www.si.com/nf...d=si_topstories $13 m this season, 26 age, UFA 2015 Edited September 13, 2014 by ALF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hplarrm Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 He still has a jury trial, the "found guilty" is misleading because the judge decides (guilty/not guilty))if a case should go to trial. If one wants to acknowledge reality then you have to also see whether h is found guilty in court and whether he is subject to some level of sanction by the NFL. It is clear that with a guilty verdict or not, a decision by a judge or a jury, once indicted, the NFL can suspend him WITH pay if it chooses. In fact, there is past precedent of teams suspending a player who has merely been accused (either in the legal process and even in the court of public opinion) without pay. In fact, Goodell has stated that he has the authority to sanction a player in order to defend the precious brand of the NFL even without an official verdict. Traditionally, the NFLPA used to reflexively take a stance opposing NFL sanctions against one of its members. However, the situation changed, first when the owners essentially accepted the NFLPA as a partner as embodied by the CBA created in the late 80s and early 90s. Further. in the next renegotiation of the CBA which gave the players 60.5% of tital receipts the players are the majority partner. This change was reflected in how the NFL sanctioned idiot PacMan Jones for repeated infractions. The NFLPA not only did not oppose this discipline as it reflexively would have in thee past, NFLPA leadership publicly encouraged this discipline were made as protecting the brand is actually a clear primary fiscal interest of the players. His guilty verdict is obviously related to league action, but it does not drive or restrict the process. Court findings make it easier to sanction him but legally and by precedent is not essential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 From what I recall Hardy's situation was a lot of drama and they aren't cutting him yet. His GF admitted to being coked out and Hardy himself made the 911 call. This isn't a cut and dry case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 The girl claimed he threw her all over the room...the bathtub, on to a pile of guns, choked her out...the only injury she had though was a broken toenail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 13, 2014 Author Share Posted September 13, 2014 Wasn't Nelly somehow involved too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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