kwe Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I have always believed if you build it they will come. With the Bills as secure as they can be in WNY, why not Toronto as an expansion team in 5-7 years with a new stadium? Canadian folks are still going to go the Ralph rather than stay in puritan southern Ontario for a real footbal experience. The economic market of southern Ontario is too compelling for the NFL to ignore opver the long-term. Also why not re-align the divisions more geographically with Buf-Tor-Cle-Pit-Det as one Divsion... All of these places are within a maximum 4-5 hour drive of one another and the rivalries would be fantastic in person and for the TV networks.. Living part-time in S. Florida, the Bills "rivalry" with Miami is non-existent and really has not mattered much in the past 15 years so I don't buy the old "lets keep the old AFL teams together" scenario.... thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Just when you thought Toronto was out....they bring it back IN!! This will never end... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I have always believed if you build it they will come. With the Bills as secure as they can be in WNY, why not Toronto as an expansion team in 5-7 years with a new stadium? Canadian folks are still going to go the Ralph rather than stay in puritan southern Ontario for a real footbal experience. The economic market of southern Ontario is too compelling for the NFL to ignore opver the long-term. Also why not re-align the divisions more geographically with Buf-Tor-Cle-Pit-Det as one Divsion... All of these places are within a maximum 4-5 hour drive of one another and the rivalries would be fantastic in person and for the TV networks.. Living part-time in S. Florida, the Bills "rivalry" with Miami is non-existent and really has not mattered much in the past 15 years so I don't buy the old "lets keep the old AFL teams together" scenario.... thoughts? from what i have gathered, the CFL would put up a stink , to say the least.. also, to get a new stadium would be difficult.. so not sure about T O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtbag Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 yeah, i'm sure pegula is gonna be cool with the league putting a team in toronto after he just dropped $1.4 billion on the one in buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Toronto will never get an NFL team. It's a dead issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Game over. Dream on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devldog131 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Toronto is considered part of the Bills market. The league is not going to put another team into that market. It may be strong enough to support one team but isn't strong enough to support two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Whatever. If there is ever a team in TO it should be an NFC team, Toronto is too close to bring in an expansion rivalry at this point. IMO, of course. Either way I don't want the division realigned . The rivalries still mean something to me. Seems the younger you are, the less they mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Starting a thread like this should incur a monetary charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtbag Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Just when you thought Toronto was out....they bring it back IN!! This will never end... the fear of toronto has been with some of us so long that it's like losing a limb. we still have the phantom pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I think the big obstacle is the CFL. I just don't see Toronto fans abandoning the CFL for a new NFL team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I like our rivalries, especially with Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 the fear of toronto has been with some of us so long that it's like losing a limb. we still have the phantom pain. It's gotta be! I mean all of those months of silly worrying about "the Bills moving to Toronto" is hard to give up, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Can Pegula own two teams in the same sport in two cities? I don't think that has ever been established. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Can Pegula own two teams in the same sport in two cities? I don't think that has ever been established. All if a sudden, it's funny again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grider Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I moved to Toronto from the UK in 1988 and have been a Bills fan ever since. Many in Canada like me are thrilled with Pegula buying the team to keep them in Buffalo where the rightly belong.... fantastic news. Probably many of you watched the Chicago game last Sunday with the same disbelief As me that we actually won.... I was sure based on the last 15 years that we'd find a way to snatch defeat from victory. With the best group of talent in years that has the potential to gel as a great team and now a new owner, I'm so flippin' excited!!! From your Canadian friends..... congratulations people of Buffalo... as the best fans in the NFL you deserve it. GO BILLS !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I moved to Toronto from the UK in 1988 and have been a Bills fan ever since. Many in Canada like me are thrilled with Pegula buying the team to keep them in Buffalo where the rightly belong.... fantastic news. Probably many of you watched the Chicago game last Sunday with the same disbelief As me that we actually won.... I was sure based on the last 15 years that we'd find a way to snatch defeat from victory. With the best group of talent in years that has the potential to gel as a great team and now a new owner, I'm so flippin' excited!!! From your Canadian friends..... congratulations people of Buffalo... as the best fans in the NFL you deserve it. GO BILLS !!!! Welcome! Love the enthusiasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billshank Redemption Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I have always believed if you build it they will come. With the Bills as secure as they can be in WNY, why not Toronto as an expansion team in 5-7 years with a new stadium? Canadian folks are still going to go the Ralph rather than stay in puritan southern Ontario for a real footbal experience. The economic market of southern Ontario is too compelling for the NFL to ignore opver the long-term. Also why not re-align the divisions more geographically with Buf-Tor-Cle-Pit-Det as one Divsion... All of these places are within a maximum 4-5 hour drive of one another and the rivalries would be fantastic in person and for the TV networks.. Living part-time in S. Florida, the Bills "rivalry" with Miami is non-existent and really has not mattered much in the past 15 years so I don't buy the old "lets keep the old AFL teams together" scenario.... thoughts? no. The NFL will not expand from 32 teams and as of right now the only team that has serious mover potential is St. Louis and frankly I don't know if we are gonna see another team get ripped up and moved somewhere else. The world (mostly media) has changed drastically in the past decade and I really don't know if the league could handle the backlash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 yeah, i'm sure pegula is gonna be cool with the league putting a team in toronto after he just dropped $1.4 billion on the one in buffalo. Seeing as he owns the Sabres and is well aware of the financial benefits the hockey team in Toronto brings to them and the large cash windfall that would come with such a team to him, I'm guessing he would not exactly be against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) Also why not re-align the divisions more geographically with Buf-Tor-Cle-Pit-Det as one Divsion... All of these places are within a maximum 4-5 hour drive of one another and the rivalries would be fantastic in person and for the TV networks.. Living part-time in S. Florida, the Bills "rivalry" with Miami is non-existent and really has not mattered much in the past 15 years so I don't buy the old "lets keep the old AFL teams together" scenario.... thoughts? I don't get why some fans want to change the Bills division. The AFC East has Boston and New York, 2 huge markets, that's good for the Bills. I want to keep the association with the East, not the Mid-West. The NFC East is the top dog, then the AFC East. It would be foolish to want that to change so we can share a division with failing cities like Detroit and Cleveland. If there came to be a team in Toronto, I would want that team in the AFC East. I swear, it takes me a while to even remember which teams sre in the NFC and AFC South divisions. They are off the radar. Do you think jerry Jones would want to leave the NFC East? "Yeah, we wanna play in New Orleans, Phoenix, and Atlanta. Not NYC, Philly, Washington"...no way. They stay in the East where the big TV ratings, and population is concentrated. Edited September 10, 2014 by HoF Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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