26CornerBlitz Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Playing what? 1 and 1/2 games till he blew his knee out? An overstatement for sure. He had a series of minor knee injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share Posted September 2, 2014 First things I question are his character, judgment, and maturity. He seems to be more focused on being rich and famous than becoming a great NFL QB. Beyond that, I question whether his playing style of one read and run translate to the NFL. His ability to get by on athleticism and playmaking at A&M isn't going to work for him in the NFL against bigger, stronger, and faster players. To be a successful NFL QB, you have to be able to beat defenses from the pocket within the structure of an offense and I question his ability to do that. Well I think when he beat teams like Alabama he wasn't playing pee wee football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Well I think when he beat teams like Alabama he wasn't playing pee wee football. Tebow beat teams like Alabama too. Means nothing with respect to success in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 (edited) Playing what? 1 and 1/2 games till he blew his knee o ut? EJ actually started the 1st game, Carr started the 4th game when backups start. EJ was 26/33 2 td 0 int in the 1st 2 games, Carr 19/32 1 td 1 INT. EJ was better. Preseason means nothing. Edited September 2, 2014 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Well I think when he beat teams like Alabama he wasn't playing pee wee football. No, he was playing College football. There have been far more successful college QBs that have failed miserably in the NFL than have succeeded. Even beating the mighty Alabama is equivalent to beating the third string of bad NFL team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Yes, many professional talent evaluators believe that Watkins was the best player in a strong draft. If you don't like EJ, fine, there's an Orton train that passes thru town. Lusting after a guy who had a decent preseason seems premature though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share Posted September 2, 2014 An overstatement for sure. He had a series of minor knee injuries. No thing that puts you on the sideline for multiple games is minor. Yes, many professional talent evaluators believe that Watkins was the best player in a strong draft. If you don't like EJ, fine, there's an Orton train that passes thru town. Lusting after a guy who had a decent preseason seems premature though. Watkins? I have been told here collage play means nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 No thing that puts you on the sideline for multiple games is minor. Relative to major reconstructive surgery due to a complete tear of ligament(s), his knee issues were minor and hopefully a thing of the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share Posted September 2, 2014 Relative to major reconstructive surgery due to a complete tear of ligament(s), his knee issues were minor and hopefully a thing of the past. That's all we can hope for. I have every right to piss and moan we should have got this or that player, but we didn't so EJ is the man for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 That's all we can hope for. I have every right to piss and moan we should have got this or that player, but we didn't so EJ is the man for now. I understand where you're at. Fingers crossed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Loved Carr prior to draft. Would've been upset if he lasted to our 2nd round pick and we passed. Raiders got lucky he fell into their laps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share Posted September 2, 2014 Loved Carr prior to draft. Would've been upset if he lasted to our 2nd round pick and we passed. Raiders got lucky he fell into their laps. Yeah but it's the raiders. They'll screw it up somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 No thing that puts you on the sideline for multiple games is minor. Watkins? I have been told here collage play means nothing. Maybe not his collage play alone, but when you take in the full spectrum of his work - the sculpture, the murals, the multimedia work, the performance art - Watkins really has the makings of an emerging American master. I expect a Whitney Museum retrospective in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Collage play sounds super dirty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 One thing the last few years showed me is you dont need a top 5 pick to find a QB. If EJ flops they can still get a good prospect by either trading up from the 2nd or just waiting until the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 That's all we can hope for. I have every right to piss and moan we should have got this or that player, but we didn't so EJ is the man for now. I think what really hurts here is that Cyrus didnt come out and grab that RT position from day one like most of us expected him to. It has been said many times had Cyrus not been a 2nd round pick he probably would have been cut this offseason he was literally that bad. Now....offensive linemen can get better.....maybe he needed a LOT of refinement.....even more then Whaley thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Ooh ... A covert manziel thread. Sneaky! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share Posted September 2, 2014 Maybe not his collage play alone, but when you take in the full spectrum of his work - the sculpture, the murals, the multimedia work, the performance art - Watkins really has the makings of an emerging American master. I expect a Whitney Museum retrospective in 2016. I said Watkins, not Maybin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsguy Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Finished pre season with a 108 QB rating. I thought I read here all rookie QB's where "raw" and "need years to develop." The reason this is important is because the Bills could have had him and kept next years first. Too early to tell, but after watching him in pre-season, he is already way ahead of EJ Manuel in every way. He looked very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufcomments Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Finished pre season with a 108 QB rating. I thought I read here all rookie QB's where "raw" and "need years to develop." The reason this is important is because the Bills could have had him and kept next years first. I thought Bortles looked really good this preseason as well. But the Raiders really had no choice because Matt "Pick 6" Schaub just done lost his damn game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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