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In just ten min I was up to speed. This is amazing. I cannot believe the traction this is getting. I won't be on 4chan for a whole, too many new friends will be there but my god the page hits and how happy M00t must be!

 

I also can't believe that there are so many videos.

 

Just like 4chan got the bikini bridge trending they're working on operations to support jlaw bb getting women to post nudes of themselves. Which, being that people are so starved for attention - it'll work! :wallbash:

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Why take away the mystery?

 

J-Law in clothes - 8

 

J-Law naked - 5

 

Having taken a look at the pics this is way off. Her body is just fine, it's her face without makeup which causes one to pause.

 

And I think she took away the mystery long before this anyway when she basically ran around naked in the X-Men flicks.

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I love how poorly this was reported. And still is being reported. Celebs took photos. Photos backed up to the icloud. A vulnerability in the FindMyPhone app was found Saturday which let brute force attacks on the password recovery system that did not allow a password lock out. The emails and accounts were discovered than thru the brute force attack were accessed.

 

They weren't hacked. Thats improper usage of the term.

 

These celebs need to learn that you can't back up all your pics to the icloud. Android is smart - won't back up pics with skin automatically.

 

They may be glad no one is able to get the geotag info out. But all of these are real and it is not a huge deal.

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I love how poorly this was reported. And still is being reported. Celebs took photos. Photos backed up to the icloud. A vulnerability in the FindMyPhone app was found Saturday which let brute force attacks on the password recovery system that did not allow a password lock out. The emails and accounts were discovered than thru the brute force attack were accessed.

 

They weren't hacked. Thats improper usage of the term.

 

These celebs need to learn that you can't back up all your pics to the icloud. Android is smart - won't back up pics with skin automatically.

 

They may be glad no one is able to get the geotag info out. But all of these are real and it is not a huge deal.

"It's not a huge deal"... says the man who's privacy wasn't violated. I'm no prude, but this is a pretty insensitive way to categorize what went down. Yes they're celebrities and have forgone most vestiges of privacy, but that doesn't mean we have a right to see everything at all times.

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"It's not a huge deal"... says the man who's privacy wasn't violated. I'm no prude, but this is a pretty insensitive way to categorize what went down. Yes they're celebrities and have forgone most vestiges of privacy, but that doesn't mean we have a right to see everything at all times.

50% of us all have the same parts and there isn't much difference in anyone. If you've seen 10 people naked you've seen them all. This is getting hyped because the amount of explicitly some of these celebs posses - jlaw in specific. I didn't know jlaw was jennifer Lawrence before this, by the way.

 

Just like Michael Sam being gay, there really is no news in this.

 

Hell, if you want shocking, PM. I'll show you shocking. This is just lulzy. And they already know who did it Bryan Hamade is being linked.

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50% of us all have the same parts and there isn't much difference in anyone. If you've seen 10 people naked you've seen them all. This is getting hyped because the amount of explicitly some of these celebs posses - jlaw in specific. I didn't know jlaw was jennifer Lawrence before this, by the way.

 

Just like Michael Sam being gay, there really is no news in this.

 

Hell, if you want shocking, PM. I'll show you shocking. This is just lulzy. And they already know who did it Bryan Hamade is being linked.

I'm not arguing that nudity in itself is somehow a big deal, it's not. What is a big deal is people breaching other people's privacy and posting what were clearly meant to be private photos and videos in order to exploit it for profit. That's a ****ty thing to do and the people responsible should be found and punished, not given a pass because "everyone gets naked".

 

If it was your sister, daughter, friend whose private pictures were being bought and sold over the net like baseball cards I imagine you'd have a different opinion on whether or not this is a big deal.

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I'm not arguing that nudity in itself is somehow a big deal, it's not. What is a big deal is people breaching other people's privacy and posting what were clearly meant to be private photos and videos in order to exploit it for profit. That's a ****ty thing to do and the people responsible should be found and punished, not given a pass because "everyone gets naked".

 

If it was your sister, daughter, friend whose private pictures were being bought and sold over the net like baseball cards I imagine you'd have a different opinion on whether or not this is a big deal.

they're not being bought and sold. I suppose you should read this accurate report of the event first. I can verify most of it because, even though I found out late, I got up to speed quick.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2740003/Celeb-hacker-run-Mystery-man-stole-celeb-nude-pics-admits-running-authorities-deep-web-hackers-congratulate-him.html

 

There are more out there. There are a lot more out there. The pics won't stop and it doesn't end so simply as people think. If people continue to be stupid and upload images ANYWHERE this is going to happen.

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they're not being bought and sold. I suppose you should read this accurate report of the event first. I can verify most of it because, even though I found out late, I got up to speed quick.

 

http://www.dailymail...tulate-him.html

 

There are more out there. There are a lot more out there. The pics won't stop and it doesn't end so simply as people think. If people continue to be stupid and upload images ANYWHERE this is going to happen.

 

You're more naive than I imagined if you believe no money changed hands. That's just silly and ignorant of the realities of the world. And getting your news from the Mail is a big no-no. At least if you want accuracy and accountability in your reporting. This was done by a group of individuals, for profit. The filter down effect of image sharing from person to person was not for profit but rather people driving their site traffic through the roof (also = money for their sites).

 

The point I'm making is you're excusing this blatant and illegal breach of privacy because either the targets were women and/or famous, worse, you are blaming the victims for it. That's just kinda of crappy.

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they're not being bought and sold. I suppose you should read this accurate report of the event first. I can verify most of it because, even though I found out late, I got up to speed quick.

 

http://www.dailymail...tulate-him.html

 

There are more out there. There are a lot more out there. The pics won't stop and it doesn't end so simply as people think. If people continue to be stupid and upload images ANYWHERE this is going to happen.

You are correct, as long as there are unscrupulous people out there pictures will be released. It happened before the internets came into existance and it'll continue as long as people are interested in obtaining those images. The fact that you are blaming those who backed up the images rather than those who stole them is disappointing.

 

I also find it interesting that you can determine what is news and whether it's a, to use your word, huge deal.

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they're not being bought and sold. I suppose you should read this accurate report of the event first. I can verify most of it because, even though I found out late, I got up to speed quick.

 

http://www.dailymail...tulate-him.html

 

There are more out there. There are a lot more out there. The pics won't stop and it doesn't end so simply as people think. If people continue to be stupid and upload images ANYWHERE this is going to happen.

 

I think your missing the point jboy......

 

Just because someone CAN post this stuff doesnt mean they SHOULD

 

and yes....I looked

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I'm not arguing that nudity in itself is somehow a big deal, it's not. What is a big deal is people breaching other people's privacy and posting what were clearly meant to be private photos and videos in order to exploit it for profit. That's a ****ty thing to do and the people responsible should be found and punished, not given a pass because "everyone gets naked".

 

If it was your sister, daughter, friend whose private pictures were being bought and sold over the net like baseball cards I imagine you'd have a different opinion on whether or not this is a big deal.

 

What's a bigger deal is people thinking the internet can somehow be "private."

 

Yeah, ideally, it should be, and everyone would be nice and respect that. In reality...if you take naked pictures of yourself and put them on any device that is connected to the internet, you have put those pictures on the internet. Do not assume a third party's cloud security is going to keep your stuff private. People - everyone in general, but celebrities especially, and judging by the statements she's released, Jennifer Lawrence in particular - need to start understanding that.

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What's a bigger deal is people thinking the internet can somehow be "private."

 

Yeah, ideally, it should be, and everyone would be nice and respect that. In reality...if you take naked pictures of yourself and put them on any device that is connected to the internet, you have put those pictures on the internet. Do not assume a third party's cloud security is going to keep your stuff private. People - everyone in general, but celebrities especially, and judging by the statements she's released, Jennifer Lawrence in particular - need to start understanding that.

 

What will be interesting will be what, if anything, comes out of this on Apple's end. This is the continuation of our society's slide down the slippery slope of losing our privacy. So much so that many people are oblivious to the ethical issues at play. Maybe that's because the targets are celebrities and we have the misconception that celebrities gave away all their rights to privacy simply by becoming famous, I'm not sure. The line has been blurred between public and private to such an extent we can't tell right from wrong anymore.

 

Yes, people should realize that the internet is not private but to be fair, in these peoples' view they weren't posting to the internet and hell, some might not have even known their iPhones were syncing to the cloud at all. It still took a third party to criminally seize the photos and post them. It's not like these women accidentally tweeted a nude out (like some have done in the past), this was a premeditated assault by a group of hackers looking to profit.

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You are correct, as long as there are unscrupulous people out there pictures will be released. It happened before the internets came into existance and it'll continue as long as people are interested in obtaining those images. The fact that you are blaming those who backed up the images rather than those who stole them is disappointing.

 

I also find it interesting that you can determine what is news and whether it's a, to use your word, huge deal.

It should not be a huge deal. It doesn't mean it is not. It is to most people but it is not to me. It has been going on forever and it is unfortunate. From drawings on the rocks and caves to stealing iCloud password, pornography has been a strong influence.

 

I think your missing the point jboy......

 

Just because someone CAN post this stuff doesnt mean they SHOULD

 

and yes....I looked

You know what is amazing, and do not take this the wrong way because i know you have a daughter, like Beerball. But I find it amazing that so many of these women are young and still do not appreciate the security of technology. If this was 40+ year old celebs I think we would simply believe they didn't know what they were getting in to and the social stigma attached to them would be different.

 

But, these are young people who generally are at the forefront of technology and they were still victimized.

 

That to me is interesting.

 

I don't mean to bash on Jboy, hope you don't take it that way. Just trying to point out how it can look from the other side of this thing.

Nah, you just don't know much about the internet.

Start by googling Goatse.

 

You're more naive than I imagined if you believe no money changed hands. That's just silly and ignorant of the realities of the world. And getting your news from the Mail is a big no-no. At least if you want accuracy and accountability in your reporting. This was done by a group of individuals, for profit. The filter down effect of image sharing from person to person was not for profit but rather people driving their site traffic through the roof (also = money for their sites).

 

The point I'm making is you're excusing this blatant and illegal breach of privacy because either the targets were women and/or famous, worse, you are blaming the victims for it. That's just kinda of crappy.

I am not blaming the victims. It is not about blame. It is not about blame. The victims did nothing more than live their lives and did so naively believing they were safe.

 

So, anyway, yeah, I am ignoring that you know nothing about OnionIB, Anon, ThePirateBay, BitTorrrents, etc. Yeah, yep. For profit. Give me a break.

 

You're not bashing on me, you're showing that you have no realization of how this works and I will try to clue you in based on what I know of the deepweb.

 

On the deepweb currency is not that important because on the deepweb there is unlimited free content. Do some research on this stuff first - look at Chris Poole, that's a good start. He is the creator of the site that the photos were released on. No one made a dime - not even Poole, aka M00T, whose site does not net him a profit financially. In fact, after legal expenses and other such things he often loses money.

 

What will be interesting will be what, if anything, comes out of this on Apple's end. This is the continuation of our society's slide down the slippery slope of losing our privacy. So much so that many people are oblivious to the ethical issues at play. Maybe that's because the targets are celebrities and we have the misconception that celebrities gave away all their rights to privacy simply by becoming famous, I'm not sure. The line has been blurred between public and private to such an extent we can't tell right from wrong anymore.

 

Yes, people should realize that the internet is not private but to be fair, in these peoples' view they weren't posting to the internet and hell, some might not have even known their iPhones were syncing to the cloud at all. It still took a third party to criminally seize the photos and post them. It's not like these women accidentally tweeted a nude out (like some have done in the past), this was a premeditated assault by a group of hackers looking to profit.

ignorance being used as a defense?

 

so can the accused guilty party use ignorance as a defense, too?

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Jboyst, you're wrong. Over 50k was paid out for the first wave of photos. I love how you are so impressed with yourself thinking you're the only one who knows about the darker side of the net. Trust me, you're not alone but you're just flat out wrong that this was not done for profit. It 100% was. Money changed hands last night.

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Jboyst, you're wrong. Over 50k was paid out for the first wave of photos. I love how you are so impressed with yourself thinking you're the only one who knows about the darker side of the net. Trust me, you're not alone but you're just flat out wrong that this was not done for profit. It 100% was. Money changed hands last night.

.source?
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Jboyst, you're wrong. Over 50k was paid out for the first wave of photos. I love how you are so impressed with yourself thinking you're the only one who knows about the darker side of the net. Trust me, you're not alone but you're just flat out wrong that this was not done for profit. It 100% was. Money changed hands last night.

.source?

 

Yea, source?

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Read your own link. Or anywhere on your magic box of interwebs that's intelligently discussing the story. The guy blew up the ring for profit/ego. He got at least 50k last night before running, some say as much as 100k.

Believing what mainstream says - is hilarious.

 

This being a network of people that covert? Nah, just like Round Rock ISD, Pumba, Jessi Slaughter, Palin's email, and the whole NFL stadium bologna... it's just the actions of a few people who took a little time to make something go big time.

 

I need a link or something worthwhile on your whole "50k" or "100k" foolishness. Otherwise, go back to 9gag.

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Believing what mainstream says - is hilarious.

 

This being a network of people that covert? Nah, just like Round Rock ISD, Pumba, Jessi Slaughter, Palin's email, and the whole NFL stadium bologna... it's just the actions of a few people who took a little time to make something go big time.

 

I need a link or something worthwhile on your whole "50k" or "100k" foolishness. Otherwise, go back to 9gag.

 

So the original leak on 4chan didn't take bitcoin donations last night? Is that what you're saying?

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So the original leak on 4chan didn't take bitcoin donations last night? Is that what you're saying?

...yes.

 

While I was not there I read the archives of the threads. the bit coin donations came out after for helping the guilty parties supposedly hide and more importantly, they are bit coin. you can rip bit coin off- it's not real currency.

 

All of this did not start on 4chan. It started hours earlier on other sites and finally spilled over to 4chan within an hour or two. 4chan could not organize and keep the information together and Reddit picked up that responsibility. Reddit documented nearly every move of this.

 

Do you know how many idiots ask for donations on 4chan a day? How long have you been lurking that site because I don't think its been long enough.

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Reddit is where I've been following it as well. We're on the same page with everything but motive. Money was made last night, if you don't believe that then I cannot convince you the sky is blue.

I know what Raleigh Scattering is... derp.
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Yes, people should realize that the internet is not private but to be fair, in these peoples' view they weren't posting to the internet and hell, some might not have even known their iPhones were syncing to the cloud at all. It still took a third party to criminally seize the photos and post them. It's not like these women accidentally tweeted a nude out (like some have done in the past), this was a premeditated assault by a group of hackers looking to profit.

 

My post, by the way, wasn't meant to imply that these women are responsible for what happened. Quite the opposite: they were not responsible, because they didn't understand they'd effectively "posted" the pictures to the internet by "saving" them to the cloud.

 

Thus, my point: people need to be educated on what "privacy" really is, and how they should protect it. After all the evidence to the contrary, anyone who thinks there's any privacy on the internet is either ignorant of what the internet is, or delusional.

 

Reddit is where I've been following it as well. We're on the same page with everything but motive. Money was made last night, if you don't believe that then I cannot convince you the sky is blue.

 

It's already been reported that the hacker who retrieved the pictures was paid via bitcoin for posting them. About $100.

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My post, by the way, wasn't meant to imply that these women are responsible for what happened. Quite the opposite: they were not responsible, because they didn't understand they'd effectively "posted" the pictures to the internet by "saving" them to the cloud.

 

Thus, my point: people need to be educated on what "privacy" really is, and how they should protect it. After all the evidence to the contrary, anyone who thinks there's any privacy on the internet is either ignorant of what the internet is, or delusional.

 

 

 

It's already been reported that the hacker who retrieved the pictures was paid via bitcoin for posting them. About $100.

yup, money was a huge motive. $100 to be wanted by the FBI!
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