Rubes Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 (edited) You could probably argue that the Bills haven't done an outstanding job with the Guard and Tight End positions, but all in all the organization has done a decent job putting together a fairly talented team across the board, aside from the one position that means far more than any other position. The most important position of them all. And here we are, one week away from the start of the season, and we have a barely legitimate starting QB and no legitimate backup QB on the roster. Even if we do pick up someone else's trash and have someone slightly more legitimate as our #2, he still has no exposure to our offensive system, and it will be weeks before he could be realistically thrown into a game with any expectation of effectiveness. It was the same story last year, and it ended up biting us in the butt, to a certain extent. And here we are again. It's hard to find a good QB in the NFL, sure. But this could only be called a pure bungling of the most important position on the field, despite a reasonably decent job with the remainder of the roster. That just about sums it up for the Buffalo Bills. Edited August 29, 2014 by Rubes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloriles Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Yeah he hasn't even played in game one yet. You should at least wait until Sunday at 7 pm before declaring the season over. You rube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted August 29, 2014 Author Share Posted August 29, 2014 Yeah he hasn't even played in game one yet. You should at least wait until Sunday at 7 pm before declaring the season over. You rube. Oh, is that what I did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Oh, is that what I did? Not at all. Good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Not at all. Good post. Ditto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Bills Fan Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 So if EJ wins Sunday then tills did a good job this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 You could probably argue that the Bills haven't done an outstanding job with the Guard and Tight End positions, but all in all the organization has done a decent job putting together a fairly talented team across the board, aside from the one position that means far more than any other position. The most important position of them all. And here we are, one week away from the start of the season, and we have a barely legitimate starting QB and no legitimate backup QB on the roster. Even if we do pick up someone else's trash and have someone slightly more legitimate as our #2, he still has no exposure to our offensive system, and it will be weeks before he could be realistically thrown into a game with any expectation of effectiveness. It was the same story last year, and it ended up biting us in the butt, to a certain extent. And here we are again. It's hard to find a good QB in the NFL, sure. But this could only be called a pure bungling of the most important position on the field, despite a reasonably decent job with the remainder of the roster. That just about sums it up for the Buffalo Bills. Good post, Rubes. One can see how the FO thought the backup QB position was in...well...reasonable hands give the performance of Thad last year. I still would have liked them to bring in a vet backup, just in case. Unfortunately Thad seemed to tank and Tuel, while maybe a bit better than last year, is still very raw. I expect the team to bring in a vet backup now, but as you note, it will be weeks before that QB is ready to see the field, It takes much longer during the season as there just isn't the kind of time to prepare. Either way though, it comes down to EJ and that would have been the case had the backup vet been brought in during the offseason. The Bills will only feel the pain if EJ goes down...say before the bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 This team is so scared of a QB controversy they'd rather have no good QBs than two good ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Quarterback situation? I think I must have missed something. I didn't know we had a QB situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 A Good QB takes care of all those problems. Helps both sides. Peyton Manning example, gets the ball out so quickly,the line doesn`t have to block very long. Threat in the passing game opens up the run. Keeps Defense off the field with drives. So they are fresher. This is what the top 10 QBs do. That`s why QB is the most important player on the field. He makes both sides better. That `s why we have so many problems. We have to find one or we are never getting out of this hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Blizzard Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) You could probably argue that the Bills haven't done an outstanding job with the Guard and Tight End positions, but all in all the organization has done a decent job putting together a fairly talented team across the board, aside from the one position that means far more than any other position. The most important position of them all. And here we are, one week away from the start of the season, and we have a barely legitimate starting QB and no legitimate backup QB on the roster. Even if we do pick up someone else's trash and have someone slightly more legitimate as our #2, he still has no exposure to our offensive system, and it will be weeks before he could be realistically thrown into a game with any expectation of effectiveness. It was the same story last year, and it ended up biting us in the butt, to a certain extent. And here we are again. It's hard to find a good QB in the NFL, sure. But this could only be called a pure bungling of the most important position on the field, despite a reasonably decent job with the remainder of the roster. That just about sums it up for the Buffalo Bills. Amen. For those of us who have watched this team for decades, seeing the same types of management failure year after year just gets old. ( to date myself, I can't believe it's been almost 30 years since we drafted Bruce Smith. THAT was a move that worked out for us!) Edited August 30, 2014 by Mr_Blizzard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabe Northern Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 This team is so scared of a QB controversy they'd rather have no good QBs than two good ones I agree with this assessment. I got the sense that they really wanted to avoid doing anything to erode EJ's confidence or have him look over his shoulder. Then the preseason happened and they had no choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtbag Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I agree with this assessment. I got the sense that they really wanted to avoid doing anything to erode EJ's confidence or have him look over his shoulder. Then the preseason happened and they had no choice. i've heard this before and have forced myself to not believe it. if dude is so fragile that he can't take some competition, we're screwed. it's much more comforting for me to chalk up the continuing qb issues to managerial incompetance than to a deliberate decision to avoid stressing out ej. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) You could probably argue that the Bills haven't done an outstanding job with the Guard and Tight End positions, but all in all the organization has done a decent job putting together a fairly talented team across the board, aside from the one position that means far more than any other position. The most important position of them all. And here we are, one week away from the start of the season, and we have a barely legitimate starting QB and no legitimate backup QB on the roster. Even if we do pick up someone else's trash and have someone slightly more legitimate as our #2, he still has no exposure to our offensive system, and it will be weeks before he could be realistically thrown into a game with any expectation of effectiveness. It was the same story last year, and it ended up biting us in the butt, to a certain extent. And here we are again. It's hard to find a good QB in the NFL, sure. But this could only be called a pure bungling of the most important position on the field, despite a reasonably decent job with the remainder of the roster. That just about sums it up for the Buffalo Bills. I don't think it has proven hard to find a good QB in the NFL, you just need to be committed to it. Commitment to winning has always been the problem here. Each regime that gets hired to run this team is basically working with a 3 year window to turn it around. Their committment extends only that far. They don't care about the future and being committed to winning is about making decisions that put you in position to win for a long time. On top of that they are always unprovens or re-treaded turds who bring no inspirational goodwill to the table. If this regime fails this year let's hope that Pegula hires some people who have proven they can win and the organization makes QB the top priority going forward. ALWAYS the top priority. I was a supporter of the EJ pick....not because EJ was great.....but because I don't think you can go wrong taking the best QB on your board with your first pick every year. The only way the pick would have been wrong is if they weren't willing to do it again the next year. Well, they didn't even draft another option in the entire draft so we are basically in the same position we've been most of the last 14 years....relying on one highly questionable option at QB. That's not good enough. Edited August 30, 2014 by BADOLBEELZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 It's as though Buddy Nix has been retained as the "Special QB Procurement Director". Hey, he's still working on it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronc24 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 At least Russell Wilson is mediocre, at best. Makes me feel much better about putting our eggs in the Fitzpatrick basket and the TJ Graham pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I don't think it has proven hard to find a good QB in the NFL, you just need to be committed to it. Commitment to winning has always been the problem here. Each regime that gets hired to run this team is basically working with a 3 year window to turn it around. Their committment extends only that far. They don't care about the future and being committed to winning is about making decisions that put you in position to win for a long time. On top of that they are always unprovens or re-treaded turds who bring no inspirational goodwill to the table. If this regime fails this year let's hope that Pegula hires some people who have proven they can win and the organization makes QB the top priority going forward. ALWAYS the top priority. I was a supporter of the EJ pick....not because EJ was great.....but because I don't think you can go wrong taking the best QB on your board with your first pick every year. The only way the pick would have been wrong is if they weren't willing to do it again the next year. Well, they didn't even draft another option in the entire draft so we are basically in the same position we've been most of the last 14 years....relying on one highly questionable option at QB. That's not good enough. Yes, drafting a QB with your first pick every year is the very definition of commitment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 It is truly mind boggling that they are in this situation two years in a row. We can disagree on EJs talent, but we all agree that even if they are all in on EJ, they needed a veteran backup with at least some cerdability . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Quarterback situation? I think I must have missed something. I didn't know we had a QB situation. Do you mean because we need a QB before we can have a QB situation? Or do you mean you are elated with EJ's progress so far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Yes, drafting a QB with your first pick every year is the very definition of commitment... First round picks are the most overrated method of acquiring talent in the NFL.........unless you need a QB. Then they are handy because you get an early shot at a position whose worth exceeds all others by a factor of 10 or more. Last years team had plenty of talent to be in the playoffs. PLENTY. Yet out of the past 14 years of failure the roster only had Leodis, CJ Spiller and Dareus......and the ineffective EJ....to show for all of those first round picks. If you can chew on that and still not understand how little impact a first round CB or RB has on your franchise then more power to you. Must be blissful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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