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4 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

Serbia had a mass shooting. Within days, the people mobilized to advocate for a gun ban. Interesting how that works when you aren't completely brainwashed into pretending you're John Wayne fighting the bad guys. 

Trust me I don't think I'm John Wayne, I'm just doing my best to protect my family as I already saw that nobody else will. It's my right to defend them and if that makes me a gun loving white man then so be it. I'll be ostracized and scrutinized and thrown in jail, or shot and killed, but whatever it takes to protect them

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5 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

Serbia had a mass shooting. Within days, the people mobilized to advocate for a gun ban. Interesting how that works when you aren't completely brainwashed into pretending you're John Wayne fighting the bad guys. 


Then why haven’t they been banned with all the gang shootings? Why don’t they respond after those? Weird

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5 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

The vague one


Well, considering the second amendment was written in the context of utilizing state militias to counterbalance any free standing federal army, I’d hope that you at least belong to your state militia if you’d like to fully avail yourself of your constitutional rights. 
 

Just remember, the individual right to own a gun under the law isn’t yet old enough to vote. 

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Man who witnessed Allen outlet mall shooting describes carnage: 'It's just unfathomable'

 

“The first girl I walked up to was crouched down covering her head in the bushes, so I felt for a pulse, pulled her head to the side and she had no face."
 

We are the only rich country in the world that regularly goes through this and the GOP is fighting like hell to make sure we keep doing it. 

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8 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:

Trust me I don't think I'm John Wayne, I'm just doing my best to protect my family as I already saw that nobody else will. It's my right to defend them and if that makes me a gun loving white man then so be it. I'll be ostracized and scrutinized and thrown in jail, or shot and killed, but whatever it takes to protect them

So you arm yourself and accompany your kids to school, your family to church, your family to the shopping mall and Tops, to the movies, to country concerts? Your in the car when your  daughter bangs a turnaround in someone’s driveway?

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1 minute ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

Leaning towards less guns.

 

If armed bystanders aren't preventing mass shootings in Texas, then that argument needs looking at. 


The “good guy with a gun” thing is a myth. It plays out so rarely, and when it does, many people are likely already dead before it does.

 

Uvalde, Buffalo Shootings Expose the Myth of the ‘Good Guy With a Gun’

 

“From 2000-2019, 119 of 345 active shooters committed suicide, the bureau said in a long-trend report. Another 119 were apprehended by police, 67 were killed by police, and five are at large. In only four cases did citizens kill the shooters – and none of those four happened at an educational setting.”

 

The ONLY thing that will start to curb the number of these tragedies is stricter gun control. But that’s more upsetting to too many Americans than dead kids with their faces blown off to actually happen. 

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7 hours ago, ChiGoose said:

Man who witnessed Allen outlet mall shooting describes carnage: 'It's just unfathomable'

 

“The first girl I walked up to was crouched down covering her head in the bushes, so I felt for a pulse, pulled her head to the side and she had no face."
 

We are the only rich country in the world that regularly goes through this and the GOP is fighting like hell to make sure we keep doing it. 

Guns per Capita has not changed much in this country in at least 100 years but this is mainly a problem of the last 25, why? What factors that did not exist in 1950 exist now?

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4 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:


The “good guy with a gun” thing is a myth. It plays out so rarely, and when it does, many people are likely already dead before it does.

 

Uvalde, Buffalo Shootings Expose the Myth of the ‘Good Guy With a Gun’

 

“From 2000-2019, 119 of 345 active shooters committed suicide, the bureau said in a long-trend report. Another 119 were apprehended by police, 67 were killed by police, and five are at large. In only four cases did citizens kill the shooters – and none of those four happened at an educational setting.”

 

The ONLY thing that will start to curb the number of these tragedies is stricter gun control. But that’s more upsetting to too many Americans than dead kids with their faces blown off to actually happen. 


why do people do them in the first place? Why are they choosing to do this?

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5 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

Switzerland has more lenient gun laws then we do but has very few murders, why? 


You ask a lot of questions but don’t try to answer them yourself, why?

 

In any event, Switzerland has strict licensing requirements, about 25% of the guns are for military or police purposes, the laws are designed to prevent violent people from obtaining a gun, and it’s very difficult to get a permit to carry your gun so most are left at home. 
 

In addition to that, despite the stricter gun laws than we have here, Switzerland still has a higher rate of gun deaths than most European countries. Because, as you should know by now, more guns means more gun deaths. 
 

Switzerland has a stunningly high rate of gun ownership — here's why it doesn't have mass shootings

 

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20 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

Switzerland has more lenient gun laws than we do but has very few murders, why? 


Most likely a tiny population and quality mental healthcare available to everyone. You know, the thing that Republicans keep cutting? 
 

 

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