IDBillzFan Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Their only defense is they're a bunch of self-interested cowards and hypocrites. This is why I am quick to correct every mindless progressive dolt that Iraq was not Bush's war...it was America's war because plenty of progs voted for it. They actually went out to explain WHY we should go into Iraq. When opinions turned, so did the progs. They always remind me of the turkey mayor (Don Knotts) from the movie "Chicken Little." http://youtu.be/qqzckPB2RZo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Wow! This is stupid on steroids. So Obama inherited the Middle East? That's great. And so the Religion of peace was at peace. And without the guiding hand of that Idiot in Chief Bush bringing peace all over the region it just fell apart. Only B-Man could be stupid enough to post such an outlandish and daft propaganda piece I thought it was Bush that released the people of Iraq and the middle east to the freedom of breaking away from tyranny? Obama has allowed the resurgence of Al Qaeda. Who is more tyrannical than Al Qaeda? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 This is why I am quick to correct every mindless progressive dolt that Iraq was not Bush's war...it was America's war because plenty of progs voted for it. They actually went out to explain WHY we should go into Iraq. When opinions turned, so did the progs. They always remind me of the turkey mayor (Don Knotts) from the movie "Chicken Little." Sorry LABillz..................I object. Lets not compare a nice guy like Don Knotts to a Liberal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Of course it was a fail on both parties. Joe LIEberman, a democrat at the time,sponsored the bill authorizing it. System of checks and balances broke down. However on an individual basis, Obama clearly was on record opposing it. Its not a party thing, because both of them are FOS. Have to look at the individual. Right now within republican for example, of likely candidates rand paul opposes intervention, and rubio can't get enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 (edited) Of course it was a fail on both parties. Joe LIEberman, a democrat at the time,sponsored the bill authorizing it. System of checks and balances broke down. However on an individual basis, Obama clearly was on record opposing it. Its not a party thing, because both of them are FOS. Have to look at the individual. Right now within republican for example, of likely candidates rand paul opposes intervention, and rubio can't get enough. Not that it matters anyway because he had absolutely no influence or political visibility back then, as he was only a step up the ladder from the Cook County Dog Catcher at the time, but how do you know? Did he give a speech about it back then? I would assume he would oppose virtually any US military action that didn't benefit him personally/politically so I'd like to hear his rationale then rather than his position. His stance in 02 would mean nothing anyway. It's what you do when the chips are on the line that counts. Not what you espouse from the comfort of a consequence free environment. His opposition to the surge and misguided withdrawal have killed any authoritative credibility he could hope to have on the issue anyway. Edited June 24, 2014 by Rob's House Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Not that it matters anyway because he had absolutely no influence or political visibility back then, as he was only a step up the ladder from the Cook County Dog Catcher at the time, but how do you know? Did he give a speech about it back then? I would assume he would oppose virtually any US military action that didn't benefit him personally/politically so I'd like to hear his rationale then rather than his position. His stance in 02 would mean nothing anyway. It's what you do when the chips are on the line that counts. Not what you espouse from the comfort of a consequence free environment. His opposition to the surge and misguided withdrawal have killed any authoritative credibility he could hope to have on the issue anyway. lol you sound like Hillary now, that was her rehearsed campaign retort: "All you did was give a speech opposing it, at least I was in the Senate voting for it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Not that it matters anyway because he had absolutely no influence or political visibility back then, as he was only a step up the ladder from the Cook County Dog Catcher at the time, but how do you know? Did he give a speech about it back then? He did, actually. Staunchly against the war. Not too tough to find. lol you sound like Hillary now, that was her rehearsed campaign retort: "All you did was give a speech opposing it, at least I was in the Senate voting for it." This is what makes you such a !@#$ing moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 He did, actually. Staunchly against the war. Not too tough to find. A cursory yahoo search didn't net the results and it seemed faster just to ask. lol you sound like Hillary now, that was her rehearsed campaign retort: "All you did was give a speech opposing it, at least I was in the Senate voting for it." It's really the whole crux of what I was saying. American leftists never want military action unless it's supporting one warlord over another in sub-Saharan Africa, but they all rolled over when conviction came with a political price tag. Obama had no such concerns. Now that it matters he's lost his clear conviction and is starting to look more like a lost kid trying to find a way out of the woods, er, desert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 A cursory yahoo search didn't net the results and it seemed faster just to ask. I googled "Obama Iraq 2002," and a transcript of the speech was the first link. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=99591469 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 A cursory yahoo search didn't net the results and it seemed faster just to ask. It's really the whole crux of what I was saying. American leftists never want military action unless it's supporting one warlord over another in sub-Saharan Africa, but they all rolled over when conviction came with a political price tag. Obama had no such concerns. Now that it matters he's lost his clear conviction and is starting to look more like a lost kid trying to find a way out of the woods, er, desert. So do you think Bush starting this whole mess in Iraq was a good thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 So do you think Bush starting this whole mess in Iraq was a good thing? Where the !@#$ do you get that from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Where the !@#$ do you get that from? the same hole he pulls everything from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 the same hole he pulls everything from. Where do I get questions from? What hypocrites you and tom are! OMG I asked a question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 (edited) So do you think Hillary begging to start this whole mess in Iraq was a good thing? Fixed that for ya, Scooter. Edited June 24, 2014 by LABillzFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Where do I get questions from? What hypocrites you and tom are! OMG I asked a question! No, that was a statement posed as a question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 A little late now A rising number of Americans think the war in Iraq was not worth fighting. A NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Annenberg poll released Tuesday shows that 71 percent of those surveyed think the war in Iraq “wasn’t worth it,” while only 22 percent believe that the war was worth the effort. Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/iraq-war-poll-108277.html#ixzz35l0bwRui Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 A little late now Read more: http://www.politico....l#ixzz35l0bwRui Thus proving what we already knew: the majority of Americans are like you in having the foresight of a geriatric mayfly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 A little late now Read more: http://www.politico....l#ixzz35l0bwRui It's getting difficult to count all the ways HIllary Clinton has been wrong in her political career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Thus proving what we already knew: the majority of Americans are like you in having the foresight of a geriatric mayfly. So................ a few years back, when Iraq had been (somewhat) stabilized post-surge; a majority of Americans had agreed with the decision to remove the Hussein regime................ and now that many of those gains have been lost under the current Administration, the polling has gone down ? ? Wow, good thing I was sitting down when I read that............ . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 A little late now Read more: http://www.politico....l#ixzz35l0bwRui it's sad that we had to lose so many more Americans over neocon lies. They took advantage of Americans' trust and good nature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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