Kirby Jackson Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I threw Johnny out there not only because of the curious timing of the report but if you want to talk about keeping the franchise long term... Regardless of what people here think of Johnny Football as a player (I happen to like him) you have to admit that it would be a HUGE deal. There would be parades for the guy and the stadium would be full. I am not saying that it is likely (I think that Watkins would be the target) but it is not the craziest scenario of all-time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I hope not. There's not a single player in this draft that is worth giving up 2 firsts and a 2nd for. Not with our needs at least. Maybe if we were 1 player short or needed the QB but were not either of those. And I know that I'm in the minority here but I think Mack is over rated and will be bullied around on an NFL field. IMO the best defensive player in this draft is going to be Anthony Barr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 This draft is deep and most of the Bills positions of need especially WR and OL Thats why it only seems to make sense if they player they trade up for is Clowney CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbosrrgood Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) The only way the Robinson case could be made is if they wanted to move Glenn to RT, which I don't think is the case. Right, but the end result is you end up filling the hole at RT, regardless of who plays there. Edited March 28, 2014 by Turbosrrgood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Schwartz plays more aggressive than Wanny, especially on the back end. Granted, Wanny had NO trust in his CBs as he got away from man-coverages early in the year. You'll see more aggressive CB and safety play out of Schwartz as he likes to incorporate elements of Fisher's version of Buddy Ryan's 46. GO BILLS!!! Not the time for this discussion, but...when you are putting on zero pass rush you can't expect your DB's to hold coverage. The game passed Wanny by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 This draft is deep and most of the Bills positions of need especially WR and OL Thats why it only seems to make sense if they player they trade up for is Clowney CBF I guess that I am looking at it from the opposite side as you. If they feel like they have addressed most of their needs and are down to WR and RT than go ahead and make a move for Watkins if he is that much better than your other options. I don't think that they are going to the top of the draft for a RT. Clowney is a possibility but IMO Watkins is the favorite (they love him). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I wouldn't have an issue if it were for Clowney. Marrio, Darius, Williams, Clowney for a front 4? Wow... Assuming they don't plan on using Clowney as an excuse to cut Mario next season. But regardless, no player -- save an Andrew Luck type QB -- is worth giving up that much to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I guess that I am looking at it from the opposite side as you. If they feel like they have addressed most of their needs and are down to WR and RT than go ahead and make a move for Watkins if he is that much better than your other options. I don't think that they are going to the top of the draft for a RT. Clowney is a possibility but IMO Watkins is the favorite (they love him). Has there been anything said/published confirming that the Bills love Watkins? I havent heard much CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 This only makes sense if the Bills can move up without losing next year's 1st round pick AND to select Clowney. agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 There's only 1 position you move up to the #1 overall for…QB. Clowney is not a player you sell the farm for and we have been improving our defense all offseason, so moving up for Clowney would make little sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityCheck Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 There's only 1 position you move up to the #1 overall for…QB. Clowney is not a player you sell the farm for and we have been improving our defense all offseason, so moving up for Clowney would make little sense. Are you saying that you want to limit how good the Bills defense is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Has there been anything said/published confirming that the Bills love Watkins? I havent heard much CBF Nothing published but I know that they are really high on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 There's only 1 position you move up to the #1 overall for…QB. Clowney is not a player you sell the farm for and we have been improving our defense all offseason, so moving up for Clowney would make little sense. I wouldn't say Clowney automatically makes little sense. If the Bills feel that he's a once-in-a-generation talent (and many folks seem to believe this), why not move up and take him? Jerry Hughes is the team's only other edge rushing threat, and he's an unrestricted FA at the end of this season. What, exactly, would be so bad about having Clowney waiting in the wings? Nothing published but I know that they are really high on him. I have also heard this...I don't know that they'd move up to 1 for him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Nothing published but I know that they are really high on him. Sorry I dont mean to come across as negative but how do you know? CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisonbrigade Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I think the Bills are trying to spook the other teams to trade up a QB, so Matthews will fall to them at 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I have also heard this...I don't know that they'd move up to 1 for him though. I have not heard anything CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Sorry I dont mean to come across as negative but how do you know? CBF I'll vouch for Kirby...he's got solid info. If you want an example, check out last year's Kevin Kolb is visiting Buffalo thread...Kirby broke it well before anyone knew he was in town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 wow, more info from the NFL network on this http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000337770/article/houston-texans-reportedly-trying-to-trade-no-1-picketwork on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I think the Bills are trying to spook the other teams to trade up a QB, so Matthews will fall to them at 9. Ah...the ole bait 'n' switch...er something... I like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I'll vouch for Kirby...he's got solid info. If you want an example, check out last year's Kevin Kolb is visiting Buffalo thread...Kirby broke it well before anyone knew he was in town. Thanks! I trust him and just didnt know if it was from his source or if he actually read it some where CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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