Deranged Rhino Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Kind of a weird deal for Revis. Seems like he could have cashed in for a ton more money and long-term security. I don't think he needs a one-year audition to get the $20-$30m guaranteed that other top defenders are getting. He doesn't -- but if he turns a one year audition into a ring AND proves he is all the way back, it's a huge win for Revis. That said -- fug' that guy. Dumb move on his part. He should have gone to the highest bidder on a long term contract this off-season. The Pats aren't winning the SB this season and if he gets injured again... I agree with you they aren't winning with this move alone. But I see Revis's logic. If he does get a ring and hits the market he'll get stupid money plus stupider money next season from someone willing to overpay and set the market on CBs. Everybody wants to play for them. Why they don't get Brady some receivers is beyond me. Not too concerned with this signing. They're likely gonna beat us twice again next year with or without him anyway. Actually, maybe Revis will line up at WR some? It may have been because he hadn't had the full year of recovery normally needed before we see players return to previous form, but Revis wasn't Revis last year, especially in the back-end speed department. He was sluggish out there. GO BILLS!!! This is an excellent point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enlightener Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Great, now Stevie gets to school him two times a year again. cool because I loved going 1-5 all those years he schooled him, that and his 2 tds in 6 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThurmasThoman Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 They lost Talib 6 hours earlier, who cares? Even if you want to be a homer and say Talib isn't half the player Revis was and grade Talib at a B+, and say Revis is the best player in the league and grade him at an A+, is it really that dramatic of an improvement for the Patriots? That team is... the bizarre-o world version of the Buffalo Bills. Having watched about 90% of their snaps last year, I can tell you in no uncertain terms they were not a 12 win team. They should have lost to the Broncos, Saints, and Browns--those 3 wins were absolutely ridiculous and essentially gifted to them. The fact of the matter is, the Bills are closer to an 8-8 team, and the Pats are closer to a 9-7 team. Eventually, that is going to shake out. It might be this year, next year, or 2016, but eventually, these scales will even out. Replacing a better than good corner with a used to be great corner, in today's nfl, isnt going to do much for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Wheels Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 It was worth the gamble for New England because their secondary needed the upgrade. When healthy, Revis is a tremendous CB. I think what really bears watching is what the Patriots do to shore up their d-line. The Patriots want Vince Wilfork to restructure his contract so it counts less against their salary cap, but there has been no news so far from either side about an agreement. It will be interesting to see if they take a hard line with him and cut him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Dumb move on his part. He should have gone to the highest bidder on a long term contract this off-season. The Pats aren't winning the SB this season and if he gets injured again... Which team was that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Great, now Stevie gets to school him two times a year again. My thoughts exactly. They lost Talib 6 hours earlier, who cares? Even if you want to be a homer and say Talib isn't half the player Revis was and grade Talib at a B+, and say Revis is the best player in the league and grade him at an A+, is it really that dramatic of an improvement for the Patriots? That team is... the bizarre-o world version of the Buffalo Bills. Having watched about 90% of their snaps last year, I can tell you in no uncertain terms they were not a 12 win team. They should have lost to the Broncos, Saints, and Browns--those 3 wins were absolutely ridiculous and essentially gifted to them. The fact of the matter is, the Bills are closer to an 8-8 team, and the Pats are closer to a 9-7 team. Eventually, that is going to shake out. It might be this year, next year, or 2016, but eventually, these scales will even out. Replacing a better than good corner with a used to be great corner, in today's nfl, isnt going to do much for them. A 9-7 team for the Pats? They have been double digit winning team for basically a decade. I just don't see the pats going less than 10-6 as long as it's a Brady/Belicheck team. Understand I can't stand the Pats and want us to beat them badly every year, but I'm realistic. You mentioned those three narrow wins, but that is what great teams do is win those close games. In the Broncos game, it wasn't Manning in the first half, it was three turnovers. Brady moved down the field throughout the game and Manning was stuffed. Belicheck was so smart in his decisions with using the wind to his advantage. I do agree we will be at least 8-8 IF EJ PLAYS BETTER. Actually, if EJ plays like a top half of league QB, we could go as high as 10-6. If we had good QB play last year, that defense would have been even better, and we win another three games. I also believe if we passed better, we would have been the #1 running team as they couldn't st.ack the box. It's all about EJ and the offensive line. A better line would really help. Oh by the way, start sliding EJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityCheck Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Beliceik hasn't had the corners to allow him to dial up the exotic pressures that he used too. The better Revis performs shutting guys down one on one, the greater the odds are that he will dial up some pressures as a result on 3rd down. A wise gamble on Belicik's part. He has always been a cover-2 shell kind of guy that used to dial up weird pressures out of it when using the 3-4. Perhaps that is the goal now out of his 4-3 alignment. No one talks about it much but he has been pretty vanilla in his bend but don't break approach while transitioning to the 4-3. Oh well. Obviously I HOPE it backfires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pneumonic Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) They lost Talib 6 hours earlier, who cares? Even if you want to be a homer and say Talib isn't half the player Revis was and grade Talib at a B+, and say Revis is the best player in the league and grade him at an A+, is it really that dramatic of an improvement for the Patriots? Replacing a better than good corner with a used to be great corner, in today's nfl, isnt going to do much for them. Nick Underhill @Nick_Underhill 1m Revis since 2010: 56 games, 223 targets, 100 receptions allowed for 1,334 yards. Nick Underhill @Nick_Underhill 2m Talib since 2010 (via @PFF): 56 games, 265 targets, 156 receptions allowed for 2,422 yards. Basically BB traded Revis for Talib + (the 3rd round comp pick the Pats will get for losing Talib to FA). In Talib the Pats had a pro bowl player. In Revis the Pats have a HOF player. Edited March 13, 2014 by Pneumonic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Nick Underhill @Nick_Underhill 1m Revis since 2010: 56 games, 223 targets, 100 receptions allowed for 1,334 yards. Nick Underhill @Nick_Underhill 2m Talib since 2010 (via @PFF): 56 games, 265 targets, 156 receptions allowed for 2,422 yards. Basically BB traded Revis for Talib + (the 3rd round comp pick the Pats will get for losing Talib to FA). In Talib the Pats had a pro bowl player. In Revis the Pats have a HOF player. They will not get the comp pick for Talib given that they have signed Revis. You get comps for net losses based on the specific players gained lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pneumonic Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 They will not get the comp pick for Talib given that they have signed Revis. You get comps for net losses based on the specific players gained lost. Revis was cut before signing with the Pats and so doesn't factor into the compensation equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) lol my thoughts exactly. Except he might need to cover Mike Evans too Yeah, good luck w/ that Pats. Cant' cover SJ and Evans at the same time. I really hope Bills get Evans. Esp. after the offseason moves. Edited March 13, 2014 by RyanC883 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 https://twitter.com/...197084913901569 Just in case you somehow thought Darrelle Revis had a down year, his +18.2 @PFF grade in 2013 led all CBs. I put absolutely NO stock whatsoever in PFF's analysis. Revis looked like he was still recovering from injury last year. He played heavier and it showed. That's not a knock on Revis at all. It's just not uncommon for players coming off of major knee surgery to need a full year of rehab before returning to form. I think he'll benefit from the extra time. It's interesting that the Pats* were only willing to give him a one year deal. That's indicative of the same concerns. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Or Corey Graham. And I'll bet the Pats don't get Revis. Oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pneumonic Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 [/size] I put absolutely NO stock whatsoever in PFF's analysis. Revis looked like he was still recovering from injury last year. He played heavier and it showed. That's not a knock on Revis at all. It's just not uncommon for players coming off of major knee surgery to need a full year of rehab before returning to form. I think he'll benefit from the extra time. It's interesting that the Pats* were only willing to give him a one year deal. That's indicative of the same concerns. GO BILLS!!! I didn't follow the Bucs at all so can't comment as you apparently can but, from all accounts, Revis was believed to have been back to himself by years end. If so, that's a HOF corner manning a defense being implemented by possibly the greatest scheme devising HC ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 We upgrade the line CJ is going to get at least 1,300. Fred can still get 700-800. That's is how we get to the playoffs. Run the ball down peoples grills. Plus we can finally see what E.J. can do. I think we go OL first round and stop playing around. I like the way you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 LOL! Okay. Wake me when the Pats sign Revis. Wake up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Oh. Wake up. A one year deal? Snoooze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Which team was that? Can't say. He barely was on the market. But I suppose it's possible the Pats' offer was the best he could get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 @AlbertBreer Because there's the option on Revis' deal, I believe that splits his cap hit, and makes his cap hit $6.5 million for 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Pft has a headline stating revis deal is for two years but will prob be cut after one as year two is 20 million dollar range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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