Coach55 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 After the release of Colin Brown, excluding players on injured reserve, only 27 players remain of the 53 players on the roster last season (28 if you include Moorman - but he was released). That means that effectively half the team from last year is gone. People are bashing the front office, however the only way to "change" a culture is to truly change it. Marrone is not taking crap from anyone and it is showing. If you look at the 27 who remain, most deserve to be here and I wouldn't be surprised for the one that doesn't, Marrone will weed out prior to year end: The 27: RB (3) - Spiller, Jackson, Choice WR (3) - Johnson, Graham, Easley (he was with organization) TE (2) - Chandler, Smith OL (6) - Glenn, Pears, Sanborn, Welch, Wood, Urbik DL (4) - Williams, Williams, Dareus, Ross LB (2) - Bradham, Moats CB (5) - Gilmore, McKelvin, Brooks, Williams, Rogers S(2) - Byrd, Searcy Of the above - I wouldn't be surprised if Rogers is gone prior to year end. The rest of the fringe players (Brooks, Easley, Lee Smith, Welch and Ross) have all played well this season. Without getting into the rest of the roster, the only other cut that needs to be made if Marrone is smart is Danny Crossman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Thanks for doing the research as I am too busy for that these days. Fully agree on Crossman. Coverage has to improve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I made this prior to the Cincy game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Fully agree on Crossman. Coverage has to improve Kick coverage is fine but punt coverage has been terrible and it has now helped cost us 2 games. Special teams overall has been bad. We knew it when they got Crossman. Guy was on his way out of Detroit for a reason. Carpenter has been a surprise and Moorman once again looks to be the MVP of our team so those pieces will help save Crossman's job, even though that was Whaley bringing them in so he should get the credit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach55 Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 I made this prior to the Cincy game. The question is should you be including the injured players. Had they been healthy, would the following people have made the roster: 1. Brad Smith (possible) 2. Matt Caussin (most likely not) 3. Kevin Elliott (most likely not) 4. Carrington (yes) 5. Hairston (yes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 The question is should you be including the injured players. Had they been healthy, would the following people have made the roster: 1. Brad Smith (possible) 2. Matt Caussin (most likely not) 3. Kevin Elliott (most likely not) 4. Carrington (yes) 5. Hairston (yes) I mean, injured or not injured, your point stands. 34 of the 68 active or IR'd players from week 17 2012 GONE by week 6 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 i want to believe that this is a step in the right direction. i am somewhat cautious to be overly excited about the turnover. I hope we are not just 'moving the deck chairs around' and that they new personel translates into better play. thus far i do believe this is a more solid team with talent. i also believe that the talent is getting maximized out of the coaching, particularly on the D side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greybeard Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Nice original post and an even better chart. Thanks to you both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobblehead Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Even this chart is outdated now. I guess that proves your point more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Searcy is the Colin Brown of safeties. If #25 of the Bills is on your tv screen odds are high that something bad for the Bills is going to happen or just happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvanvol Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Wow that is impressive..... almost total turnover in the QB and the LB position. That is crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProbablyWrong Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Searcy is the Colin Brown of safeties. If #25 of the Bills is on your tv screen odds are high that something bad for the Bills is going to happen or just happened. Last year, absolutely true. This year its more 50/50. He has made some good plays (though he has also been burned quite a bit). I see him as a great role player in sub-packages, rather than someone who should be starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I'd put Bradham on the "soon to be replaced" list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Last year, absolutely true. This year its more 50/50. He has made some good plays (though he has also been burned quite a bit). I see him as a great role player in sub-packages, rather than someone who should be starting. I think it's more 99/1. He makes one play a game that looks like an NFL player. The rest of the game he is a door mat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites Bay Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 What a walk down Memory Lane. I don't miss a lot of them, to be honest. I mean...Shawne Merriman? Tyler Thigpen? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I wonder what the NFL average is? I'd guess 20 year over year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbosrrgood Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 (edited) Just curious how you determined that Welch has been playing well? The only play of note that I am aware of him being involved in is a failed 4th down conversion attempt as a TE. He was lit up on the offensive line in the preseason. Edited October 17, 2013 by Turbosrrgood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 After the release of Colin Brown, excluding players on injured reserve, only 27 players remain of the 53 players on the roster last season (28 if you include Moorman - but he was released). That means that effectively half the team from last year is gone. People are bashing the front office, however the only way to "change" a culture is to truly change it. Marrone is not taking crap from anyone and it is showing. If you look at the 27 who remain, most deserve to be here and I wouldn't be surprised for the one that doesn't, Marrone will weed out prior to year end: The 27: RB (3) - Spiller, Jackson, Choice WR (3) - Johnson, Graham, Easley (he was with organization) TE (2) - Chandler, Smith OL (6) - Glenn, Pears, Sanborn, Welch, Wood, Urbik DL (4) - Williams, Williams, Dareus, Ross LB (2) - Bradham, Moats CB (5) - Gilmore, McKelvin, Brooks, Williams, Rogers S(2) - Byrd, Searcy Of the above - I wouldn't be surprised if Rogers is gone prior to year end. The rest of the fringe players (Brooks, Easley, Lee Smith, Welch and Ross) have all played well this season. Without getting into the rest of the roster, the only other cut that needs to be made if Marrone is smart is Danny Crossman. You forgot Nickell Robey from your list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie's ire Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 You forgot Nickell Robey from your list. Nickell Robey was playing for USC last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 After the release of Colin Brown, excluding players on injured reserve, only 27 players remain of the 53 players on the roster last season (28 if you include Moorman - but he was released). That means that effectively half the team from last year is gone. People are bashing the front office, however the only way to "change" a culture is to truly change it. Marrone is not taking crap from anyone and it is showing. If you look at the 27 who remain, most deserve to be here and I wouldn't be surprised for the one that doesn't, Marrone will weed out prior to year end: The 27: RB (3) - Spiller, Jackson, Choice WR (3) - Johnson, Graham, Easley (he was with organization) TE (2) - Chandler, Smith OL (6) - Glenn, Pears, Sanborn, Welch, Wood, Urbik DL (4) - Williams, Williams, Dareus, Ross LB (2) - Bradham, Moats CB (5) - Gilmore, McKelvin, Brooks, Williams, Rogers S(2) - Byrd, Searcy Of the above - I wouldn't be surprised if Rogers is gone prior to year end. The rest of the fringe players (Brooks, Easley, Lee Smith, Welch and Ross) have all played well this season. Without getting into the rest of the roster, the only other cut that needs to be made if Marrone is smart is Danny Crossman. Now do the the same thing for Gailey for comparison sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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