DC Tom Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 I went to Golden Gate Park a couple months ago and was caught off guard when I saw a "Nancy Pelosi Drive". You have to drive it to know where it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Lost in all this schadenfreude is Nancy Pelosi's particular brand of crazy-stupid: http://twitchy.com/2...liked-his-plan/ Because we know that Nancy's first question to everyone she meets is "soooooooo, how's your healthcare plan?" You have to drive it to know where it goes. Here's the real sickening thing about that road. It connects Martin Luther King Jr. Drive with John F. Kennedy Drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Security Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 You have to drive it to know where it goes. Good one!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 I know this is a rhetorical question, but I feel compelled to answer nonetheless: he's campaigning. Told you so. And i agreed with you then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 And i agreed with you then. It was a general "you," not the specific. You moron. (THAT'S the specific "you.") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) Calif. Shuts Down Ten Phony Insurance-Exchange Websites .................how could the distinguish from the "real" site ?...........lol California has shut down ten websites that were allegedly designed to fool consumers into thinking they were purchasing insurance on the state’s health-care exchange. “These websites fraudulently imitated Covered California in order to lure consumers away from plans that provide the benefits of the Affordable Care Act,” California attorney general Kamala Harris said in a statement. “Today, the law means X. Yesterday, it may have meant Y, and tomorrow it may mean Z, but today it’s X. Stay tuned for my next mood or political need.” Hey, remember long ago (4 weeks)and the insistence of the Left: “Hey, you can’t change the ACA, it’s the law of the land!” But remember,we must not chide, contradict, or mock the distinguished professor of constitutional law who is our president. . . Edited November 15, 2013 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Calif. Shuts Down Ten Phony Insurance-Exchange Websites .................how could the distinguish from the "real" site ?...........lol Because they actually work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Speeches Don’t Change the Law I’ve been trying to understand the legality of the president’s administrative “fix.” One thing that’s clear: While President Obama gave a speech saying that his administration will permit insurers to renew plans that don’t comply with Obamacare’s requirements, it was just a speech. It didn’t change the law. That means that insurance companies who sell plans that are still illegal under the law could be sued in courts and won’t get any legal protection. Over at the Volokh Conspiracy, Jonathan Adler, a law professor at Case Western University, explains: Does this make the renewal of non-compliant policies legal? No. The legal requirement remains on the books so the relevant health insurance plans remain illegal under federal law. The President’s decision does not change relevant state laws either. So insurers will still need to obtain approval from state insurance commissioners. This typically requires submitting rates and plan specifications for approval. This can take some time, and is disruptive because most insurance companies have already set their offerings for the next year. It’s no wonder that some insurance commissioners have already indicated they have no plans to approve non-compliant plans. Yet even if state commissioners approve the plans, they will still be illegal under federal law. Given this fact, why would any insurance company agree to renew such a plan? It’s nice that regulators may forbear enforcing the relevant regulatory requirements, but this is not the only source of potential legal jeopardy. So, for instance, what happens when there’s a legal dispute under one of these policies? Say, for instance, an insurance company denies payment for something that is not covered under the policy but that would have been covered under the PPACA and the insured sues? Would an insurance company really want to have to defend this decision in court? After all, this would place the insurance company in the position of seeking judicial enforcement of an illegal insurance policy. If there’s an answer to this, I haven’t seen it. It’s almost as if the Administration has not thought this through. As Sarah Kliff reports, this supposed “fix” creates a “big mess.” . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) This Obamacare fiasco is an unforced political error of epic proportions. While they haven't taken off the gloves, the mass media is actually reporting this. I just saw the local news in Richmond do a personal interest story about a life long Democrat who's furious because he's lost his insurance coverage. Think about it this way - This was an issue that most people worried about in the abstract. Now, the situation of most people who didn't have coverage hasn't changed, while a lot of people who had already taken care of this issue on their own are getting !@#$ed. Worse politically, an abstract political issue has become a real and present problem for a lot of working class Democrats who never believed their beloved leader would !@#$ them like this. And as could be expected, the well to do libs are either silent or making excuses. If the Republicans handle this properly (which I'm sure they won't) they could use this to trash Obama's "legacy" and expose the liberal Democrat party for politically opportunistic power brokers fraudulently posing as philanthropists. Edited November 15, 2013 by Rob's House Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 . Speeches Don’t Change the Law Oh, pshaw. The law is what Obama says it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 If Obama was an NFL quarterback he would have been cut in training camp. He's an incompetent, lying buffoon. Or he'd start for the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Or he'd start for the Bills. That'd be great. Watching him B word to the refs after every bad play, explaining that it was all someone else's fault and the refs have to hold them accountable. It'd be just like having Tom Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMadCap Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 It'd be just like having Tom Brady. Except the being a leader part... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 It was a general "you," not the specific. You moron. (THAT'S the specific "you.") Just a suggestion for you. If you quote someone in a response, your response is generally considered directed at that person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 That'd be great. Watching him B word to the refs after every bad play, explaining that it was all someone else's fault and the refs have to hold them accountable. It'd be just like having Tom Brady. Or watching the NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 UnitedHealth drops thousands of doctors from insurance plans (Reuters) - UnitedHealth Group dropped thousands of doctors from its networks in recent weeks, leaving many elderly patients unsure whether they need to switch plans to continue seeing their doctors, the Wall Street Journal reported on Friday. The insurer said in October that underfunding of Medicare Advantage plans for the elderly could not be fully offset by the company's other healthcare business. The company also reported spending more healthcare premiums on medical claims in the third quarter, due mainly to government cuts to payments for Medicare Advantage services. The Journal report said that doctors in at least 10 states were notified of being laid off the plans, some citing "significant changes and pressures in the healthcare environment." According to the notices, the terminations can be appealed within 30 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 how feasible and realistic is it that the tables become turned in that Dr's must make decisions and negotiations to be covered by an insurance Carrier? That a carrier could drop a doctor in favor of one of their more preferential provider who has a lower cost or has given kickbacks to the Insurance Co? Those doctors cut above are no longer covered leaving the patients to either switch plans late in the game or force patients to use a possible infwrrior Dr? Not sure if this is a valid concern. But why isn't i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 That'd be great. Watching him B word to the refs after every bad play, explaining that it was all someone else's fault and the refs have to hold them accountable. It'd be just like having Tom Brady. Tom brady gets **** done. Obama just pretends he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Security Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Oprah shamefully going around the world promoting The Butler and calling Americans racist because she thinks people mistreat Obama because he is black. She is so shameful. Not a good American at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 If Obama was an NFL quarterback he would have been cut in training camp. He's an incompetent, lying buffoon. And three months later you'd have dopes still talking about his 'talent' and saying 'look, the Colts almost activated him!' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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