3rdand12 Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 At least he didn't blame God. oh you went there Jesus... 11 pages on this? you went there too ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 I can't believe this thread has gone on so long! I am over it... This topic needs to be dropped.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Cut the guy a break on this until/unless it's a habit. If he knows he's emotionally on edge and might say something stupid and cause controversy instead of being able to be professional, he did the right thing to get gone. It's a habit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 I don't want to throw ANYTHING at him late in the game. The problem is that he is the clear #1 option for that team and he simply has performed worse under pressure. They really can't afford to give away talent......but they need more reliable targets in the clutch. It is a quandary. I think this is absolutely right on and I cannot understand how anybody can trust him at key moments right now and that includes EJ Manuel. This team may not be ready to win right now, but in the next year or two I think/hope they will be. When that time comes I have absolutely zero interest in seeing Stevie Johnson on the field in the 4th quarter of a tight playoff game. I couldn't care less about his mouth, his t-shirts, his music, his celebrations or his social media presence. The only thing I give a hoot about is what he does when the game clock is moving. And I do not trust this kid when the game gets big. Another thing that I cannot believe I haven't seen in this thread is commentary about his spotty blocking. He blew off several assignments in Sunday's game and I have no doubt he heard about it in the film room this week. I have a feeling that will get him in Marrone's doghouse a lot quicker than the 4th quarter drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 I think this is absolutely right on and I cannot understand how anybody can trust him at key moments right now and that includes EJ Manuel. This team may not be ready to win right now, but in the next year or two I think/hope they will be. When that time comes I have absolutely zero interest in seeing Stevie Johnson on the field in the 4th quarter of a tight playoff game. I couldn't care less about his mouth, his t-shirts, his music, his celebrations or his social media presence. The only thing I give a hoot about is what he does when the game clock is moving. And I do not trust this kid when the game gets big. Another thing that I cannot believe I haven't seen in this thread is commentary about his spotty blocking. He blew off several assignments in Sunday's game and I have no doubt he heard about it in the film room this week. I have a feeling that will get him in Marrone's doghouse a lot quicker than the 4th quarter drops. His brand of crazy fits best on a bad football team. Marrone claims he values accountability and Stevie does not even know what accountability is. It's not just about admitting you made mistakes.....which for Stevie at this point consists of 3 parts excuse and 1 part tacit admission of guilt...........but it is also about working to prevent a repeat of the same mistake. His mindset is a long way from right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Ocho Cinco Part Deux! Remember Stevie, Actions speak louder than words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Ocho Cinco Part Deux! Remember Stevie, Actions speak louder than words. That is a great comparison. They share the same mental issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 I don't want to comment on everyone, but was on the 30 yrd line, lower level right in front of this missed catch. I loved what EJ was doing all game even with some missed opportunities, but on the SJ catch, this is crazy. I have coached football for years, and EJ was not under pressure. He threw a bad ball, and was almost uncatchable. Yes, SJ could have maybe made a miracle catch, but from a real time view looking at angles, this is more on EJ. I'm not against EJ again as I thought he played a first NFL game well, and we'll have a good QB for the future, but SJ is not Ocho Cinco. That roasted me. He is not. I hate losing as much as you guys. I've competed in two sports as a state champ, and a national champ. I say that as a I get it. It is driving us nuts. But to dissect some fo these plays is not the way coaches look at players performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 I don't want to comment on everyone, but was on the 30 yrd line, lower level right in front of this missed catch. I loved what EJ was doing all game even with some missed opportunities, but on the SJ catch, this is crazy. I have coached football for years, and EJ was not under pressure. He threw a bad ball, and was almost uncatchable. Yes, SJ could have maybe made a miracle catch, but from a real time view looking at angles, this is more on EJ. I'm not against EJ again as I thought he played a first NFL game well, and we'll have a good QB for the future, but SJ is not Ocho Cinco. That roasted me. He is not. I hate losing as much as you guys. I've competed in two sports as a state champ, and a national champ. I say that as a I get it. It is driving us nuts. But to dissect some fo these plays is not the way coaches look at players performance. With all due respect.....you are wrong. Johnson's performance is a pattern. This is the same guy that was issued an ultimatum by his head coach after his "mock shooting of Plaxico Burress/Jet crashing" celebration and then came out and did it again in the season finale at New England.....basically leaving his coach little choice but to discipline him in-game. I could care less about the actual celebrations but part of being a good teammate is not willfully hurting your team......and that was inexplicably unaccountable and selfish behavior. He tries to talk a team game but when push comes to shove he excuses his own behavior and his actions are all about Stevie. He has a history of coming up small late in close games and a history of making excuses for not making those plays. He is perhaps MORE Ocho than Ocho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 I think this is absolutely right on and I cannot understand how anybody can trust him at key moments right now and that includes EJ Manuel. This team may not be ready to win right now, but in the next year or two I think/hope they will be. When that time comes I have absolutely zero interest in seeing Stevie Johnson on the field in the 4th quarter of a tight playoff game. I couldn't care less about his mouth, his t-shirts, his music, his celebrations or his social media presence. The only thing I give a hoot about is what he does when the game clock is moving. And I do not trust this kid when the game gets big. Another thing that I cannot believe I haven't seen in this thread is commentary about his spotty blocking. He blew off several assignments in Sunday's game and I have no doubt he heard about it in the film room this week. I have a feeling that will get him in Marrone's doghouse a lot quicker than the 4th quarter drops. Just wait until he starts getting targeted less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Front Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 The dude is probably glad he dropped the ball so he can bask in all of the attention he's getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDBUFFCUSEFAN Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 I don't want to comment on everyone, but was on the 30 yrd line, lower level right in front of this missed catch. I loved what EJ was doing all game even with some missed opportunities, but on the SJ catch, this is crazy. I have coached football for years, and EJ was not under pressure. He threw a bad ball, and was almost uncatchable. Yes, SJ could have maybe made a miracle catch, but from a real time view looking at angles, this is more on EJ. I'm not against EJ again as I thought he played a first NFL game well, and we'll have a good QB for the future, but SJ is not Ocho Cinco. That roasted me. He is not. I hate losing as much as you guys. I've competed in two sports as a state champ, and a national champ. I say that as a I get it. It is driving us nuts. But to dissect some fo these plays is not the way coaches look at players performance. There is no rational thoughts allowed, only blind hatred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 I think the bigger question at this point is: is anyone EVER going to fix the subject of this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan67 Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 This guy runs his mouth better than he catches the ball......If he lets go of his huge ego maybe he'll play better football. At the end of this year the bills should trade him.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 HE'S A THIEF TOO!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimp Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Chandler has been pointed out. Turnovers have been pointed out. Penalties have been pointed out. The failure to get a stop on multiple third downs during the last drive. Yes though you are correct 1 drop with more than 5 minutes to go in the game was the end all be all game losing play. Get a grip. Wasn't it like 8:35 or so left? hardly a "Crucial" moment. After all, they did stop NE and get the ball back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Wasn't it like 8:35 or so left? hardly a "Crucial" moment. After all, they did stop NE and get the ball back again. You didn't think I'd track you down!? http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/161304-the-ej-manuel-thread-not-impressed/page__st__400#entry2905874 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 HE'S A THIEF TOO!! http://twitter.com/S...187781476188160 See Big Cat anything to bash him! You didn't think I'd track you down!? http://forums.twobil...00#entry2905874 I feel like your math is a bit off there as they were still in the hurry up. The 3 and out (if that is what happened) might not have taken as long. It was a negative play for sure but not the end all be all reason they lost as some have wanted it to be in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 See Big Cat anything to bash him! I feel like your math is a bit off there as they were still in the hurry up. The 3 and out (if that is what happened) might not have taken as long. It was a negative play for sure but not the end all be all reason they lost as some have wanted it to be in this thread. I'm saying a three and out after another first down. So upwards of 4-8 additional plays under 8 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimp Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 You didn't think I'd track you down!? http://forums.twobil...00#entry2905874 Oh I figured you would. Mind you that I am not saying it didn't suck, what I am saying is I don't believe that was the reason they lost. Brady was able to take a knee and relax while the field goal team drilled another dagger into Bills fans hearts. If that had happened on the Bills final drive I would be carrying a lantern and a pitchfork. I think it is clear that it's high time Stevie shut his pie trap until he learns to catch everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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