K-9 Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 It's gotta be the trainers/strength and conditioning program. These guys are always pulling groins and hamstrings, it's like they aren't stretched out and as flexible as they need to be. We seem to have more injuries than any other team every year Wait, you forgot to suggest bringing back Rusty Jones. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Wait, you forgot to suggest bringing back Rusty Jones. GO BILLS!!! Love that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 holy crap.....this thread.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 (edited) But that doesn't fit the narrative. GO BILLS!!! Coach and his ilk declared the Bills a Mickey Mouse operation years ago. Any added grist for their crap mill is always welcomed. GO BILLS!!! Are the Bills to be blamed because their kicker got injured? Of course not. But they should stop drafting kickers. They're wasted picks. Most teams do not draft their kickers. There is no reason to do so. The Bills have done it for two consecutive years and neither kicker has been able to contribute. I didn't like the picks at the time, and nothing that has happened has changed my mind on that. Sign kickers off of the street. Stop drafting them. The Bills signed two players today - a safety and a kicker. They drafted two safeties and a kicker this year. They did not draft a guard, and they're still scrambling to fill the LG slot (and backup swing spot). Neither of the two safeties they drafted this year look like players, to the point where the organization felt it needed to add a guy off of the street today to man the position. They've drafted two decent safeties in the past several years and then decided both of them were asking too much for their services. So instead they keep drafting more safeties to replace them. Both years they've drafted a kicker when they had a perfectly decent kicker already in the fold. It's just silly. Kickers and safeties, instead of guards and linebackers. It's not how I'd build a football team but hey, I guess I'm just too negative. Edited September 3, 2013 by Coach Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Are the Bills to be blamed because their kicker got injured? Of course not. But they should stop drafting kickers. They're wasted picks. Most teams do not draft their kickers. There is no reason to do so. The Bills have done it for two consecutive years and neither kicker has been able to contribute. I didn't like the picks at the time, and nothing that has happened has changed my mind on that. Sign kickers off of the street. Stop drafting them. The Bills signed two players today - a safety and a kicker. They drafted two safeties and a kicker this year. They did not draft a guard, and they're still scrambling to fill the LG slot (and backup swing spot). Neither of the two safeties they drafted this year look like players, to the point where the organization felt it needed to add a guy off of the street today to man the position. They've drafted two decent safeties in the past several years and then decided both of them were asking too much for their services. So instead they keep drafting more safeties to replace them. Both years they've drafted a kicker when they had a perfectly decent kicker already in the fold. It's just silly. Kickers and safeties, instead of guards and linebackers. It's not how I'd build a football team but hey, I guess I'm just too negative. You could get more respect if you just manned up & admire you jumped the gun to bash the Bills. And that Mickey Mouse organization, the Pats, drafted a kicker in the 4th round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Okay, I get it, Hopkins injured. But why not bring back Lindell, I think he would be more reliable than Carpenter? Because Lindell plays for the Bucs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Whats funny about this,is how the Bills signed a Kicker,and randomly boned over the Browns. Whaley showing where he started his career lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Wow. If there ever was an example of the need to remind posters to: Keep Calm This thread is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Are the Bills to be blamed because their kicker got injured? Of course not. But they should stop drafting kickers. They're wasted picks. Most teams do not draft their kickers. There is no reason to do so. The Bills have done it for two consecutive years and neither kicker has been able to contribute. I didn't like the picks at the time, and nothing that has happened has changed my mind on that. Sign kickers off of the street. Stop drafting them. The Bills signed two players today - a safety and a kicker. They drafted two safeties and a kicker this year. They did not draft a guard, and they're still scrambling to fill the LG slot (and backup swing spot). Neither of the two safeties they drafted this year look like players, to the point where the organization felt it needed to add a guy off of the street today to man the position. They've drafted two decent safeties in the past several years and then decided both of them were asking too much for their services. So instead they keep drafting more safeties to replace them. Both years they've drafted a kicker when they had a perfectly decent kicker already in the fold. It's just silly. Kickers and safeties, instead of guards and linebackers. It's not how I'd build a football team but hey, I guess I'm just too negative. Actually, many teams do draft kickers. Hopkins was a good pick and there was nothing wrong with drafting him where they did - whether you personally agree with it or not. He got injured today. The two safeties they picked are still on the team and have promise. However, they are still rookies and the strong veteran presence (not to mention an actual body on the field) they felt they would have in Byrd is questionable for the game. Hence the signings of Leonard and Carpenter. They serve a momentary purpose. Easy to understand. Unlike this post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floridabillsfan1 Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 I just hope the game Sunday is NOT on the line by a field goal and this guy has to win it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 (edited) You could get more respect if you just manned up & admire you jumped the gun to bash the Bills. And that Mickey Mouse organization, the Pats, drafted a kicker in the 4th round. Go back and re-read the thread. I was the first one who predicted it was because of an injury. That doesn't change my point - this is why you don't draft kickers. (Twice). Now they're stuck, they have to IR a 6th round pick (or cut him outright), or carry two kickers at the expense of another key position. Meanwhile, you reacted to the signing by calling it a "brilliant" move designed to learn up on the Jets and the Dolphins... Edited September 3, 2013 by Coach Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLbills Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 NFL Films presents : Dan Carpenter NFL Kicker 32 Teams in 32 Days Lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Are the Bills to be blamed because their kicker got injured? Of course not. But they should stop drafting kickers. They're wasted picks. Most teams do not draft their kickers. There is no reason to do so. The Bills have done it for two consecutive years and neither kicker has been able to contribute. I didn't like the picks at the time, and nothing that has happened has changed my mind on that. Sign kickers off of the street. Stop drafting them. The Bills signed two players today - a safety and a kicker. They drafted two safeties and a kicker this year. They did not draft a guard, and they're still scrambling to fill the LG slot (and backup swing spot). Neither of the two safeties they drafted this year look like players, to the point where the organization felt it needed to add a guy off of the street today to man the position. They've drafted two decent safeties in the past several years and then decided both of them were asking too much for their services. So instead they keep drafting more safeties to replace them. Both years they've drafted a kicker when they had a perfectly decent kicker already in the fold. It's just silly. Kickers and safeties, instead of guards and linebackers. It's not how I'd build a football team but hey, I guess I'm just too negative. Stephen Gostkowski, career 84 % accuracy. That wousl be 6th best in NFL history and better than Vinatieri. Played in 104 of 112 games. Mulitple Pro-Bowls. 4th round pick. Kickers are people too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 It's as if no one else in the NFL has ever signed a fill in...using their 53rd spot on the roster. And, this isn't even a new thing for this regime. They didn't keep signing people to get us back up to 90 all camp, like past regimes. The signings they did make weren't related to the cuts they made, and they weren't playing +1/-1 with the roster. When it came time to get to 75, they only had to cut 6. As they cut people they just left the roster spot open. I think that's because they trust their scouts. There was no point in bringing in a guy just to run him around, tell him he has a chance to make the team, and cut him later. I am sure the players appreciated that. The reality is that we had the open spots, and cut the guys we did, because those guys weren't good enough, period. We didn't hold onto guys just for the hell of it. All of this suggests a standard has been set, and if we don't have enough guys to meet that, we don't allow sub-standard guys onto the team just for the sake of having them. I have no problem going into a season with 49-52 guys on a roster, who all belong there, and know each other belong there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Nine out of the 12 playoff teams last year drafted their kicker and/or punter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Not saying they are a model franchise, but didn't the raiders draft Janikowski in the first round? This was before they went to the Super Bowl I think. Fact checkers please confirm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Nine out of the 12 playoff teams last year drafted their kicker and/or punter. That's because they're run by Disney bro. That's Mickey Mouse stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Go back and re-read the thread. I was the first one who predicted it was because of an injury. That doesn't change my point - this is why you don't draft kickers. (Twice). Now they're stuck, they have to IR a 6th round pick (or cut him outright), or carry two kickers at the expense of another key position. With all due respect, I have to be honest. The further you carry this argument, the less sense it makes. Really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 That's because they're run by Disney bro. That's Mickey Mouse stuff. Maybe we should sign Zoltan Mesko so that we can learn about the Patriots' schemes before week 1, right Seabiscuit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Maybe we should sign Zoltan Mesko so that we can learn about the Patriots' schemes before week 1, right Seabiscuit? I realize that this is sarcasm,but Mesko is a Steeler now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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