Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Yup. Now that Fitz is out of Buffalo expect to hear pundits to start praising him and dumping on the Bills for releasing him. PTR It's like he instantly got better after getting cut by the Bills! CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainiac21 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Jeremiah compared him to Ryan Fitzpatrick as well, but with a "little" stronger arm. his arm strength is regularly "questioned". i think the fact that he usually steps into his throw and fires it without touch (which about anyone is capable of doing) gives the impression he has a stronger arm than he does. remember there are people saying Fitz can throw it over 50 yards. true. but the real arms are the ones that can flick 50 yard lasers off their back foot, without winding up and stepping into it. he does seem to have a little more arm than Fitz but if it was real strong, i think there would probably be a consensus on that. i think the fact his longer throws are rainbows bothers some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bunk Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Watched Nassib in person every game for the past two years and he throws with great velocity because he throws as hard as he can regardless of how far he's actually throwing. That was one of many Syracuse fans knocks on him, he doesn't throw with touch. His deep ball is a rainbow , he's got a better arm than fitz but he's hardly got a 'big arm' . All of these Drew Brees comparisons are absurd, totally absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 There isn't a QB in this draft that reminds me more of Fitz than Nassib... Like ^ Nassib has no touch on his ball and his arm strength may be slightly better than Fitz... I hope the Bills don't draft him.. 4th round at best in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Trooth Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) How is Cosell more qualified than Brooks? He's never been a scout at the NFL or any level. All he does is watch tape and gives his opinion much like Bucky does. The only qualifications Greg Cosell has is that he is the nephew of Howard. Brooks was employed as a NFL scout and played in the league. Cosell has produced for NFL films for over 25 years. Producers and film types, like artists, see things in a dimension that the average joe doesn't ,nor has the ability... it's just in your dna. The things their eyes see and process are God given gifts much like an athlete is gifted with abnormal speed and quickness. The dimension that NFL films has added to the game is legendary. They show visuals that capture tension, emmotion etc reveal an element that we all feel but seldom can articulate. Cosell has been around the game for a long time, up close and personal with football, football people of all types, all levels. He's seen a gazillion qbs and players. He knows what it takes and his eyes don't lie. He's job is film and looking at it at a level that not many do. When Cosell talks about things like slow eyes, ball location, identifying & processing info, he's talking about "it"... that elusive component we all would want in our qb. He's talking a bit out of the box.. from not only a person who's observed pro football up close but as a person also outside observing through film as an artist that sees things in a slightly different dimension. That's a unique and valuable assessment. Listen to his interview with Murph if you haven't. You will come away with a different appreciation. There are measurables and there are immeasureables. It's the failure to see the immeasureables that teams overlook when they select qbs like Jeff George, JP Losman, Akili Smith, Matt Leinart. The measurables have to be there. But, it's what's between the ears that seals the deal. Guys like Cosell may not know what's in a person's head, but he knows how that is manifested and how it translates to the intracacies of the game. Bucky sees it his way in a traditional sense where it is all about the measureables. Cosell sees the measureables too but he has a perspective in addition to that. So, when he says he sees a little Brees in Nassib ... his eyes aint lying. And the Bills head coach has been up close and personal with both Brees and Nassib. Edited March 26, 2013 by Dr. Trooth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) just googled ryan nassib to see if he's a 5th rounder or best player in the draft today........seems to change daily. found ---8 reason's the bills shouldn't draft Ryan Nassib. by the almighty BR. ---Nassib's the best ---Nassib lacks abilities ---Nassib is strong ---Bucky Brooks Nassib stinks take --- http://www.nfl.com/d...ed-franchise-qb sounds like no one knows anything about this guy.................the cuse fans that have chimed in on this thread, watched every Nassib start and are severly concerned are the ones that are leading me to not want any piece of this guy. Nassib displayed only adequate arm talent on film. He doesn't possess the big arm that would allow him to make "pro" throws from hash to opposite sidelines, but he is capable of making all of the short and intermediate throws in most offenses. At Syracuse, he played in a quick-rhythm passing game that extensively featured bubble screens, quick routes (slants and seams) and a variety of intermediate routes within 15 yards of the line of scrimmage. Nassib routinely played from the shotgun, which allowed him to quickly field the snap, pivot and fire the ball to the perimeter without taking additional drop steps. When asked to push the ball down the field, Nassib would execute three-step drops from the shotgun and rely on precise timing/anticipation to complete throws, rather than superior arm strength. Nassib was fairly accurate on short and intermediate throws, but his ball placement was more erratic on throws beyond 15 yards. He routinely tossed the ball high or on the incorrect shoulder, which led to a few turnovers and poorly thrown incompletions. While some of Nassib's inaccuracies can be blamed on his inconsistent footwork, he simply doesn't possesses the arm talent to make pinpoint throws without being mechanically sound on every down. IN OTHER WORDS, WELCOME BACK YOUNG FITZ. Edited March 26, 2013 by Ryan L Billz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 sounds like no one knows anything about this guy.................the cuse fans that have chimed in on this thread, watched every Nassib start and are severly concerned are the ones that are leading me to not want any piece of this guy. Cuse fans are, after all, just fans. Marrone is probably uniquely qualified to determine if he wants Nassib on the Bills. With the many MANY things to worry about with the 2013 Bills, drafting or not drafting Nassib is the last thing to worry about it would seem. That assumes of course that you think that Marrone knows what the hell he is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Trooth Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Adam Schein throwing more fuel on the fire. Hey... just sayin http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000153564/article/buffalo-bills-primed-to-reenact-florida-gulf-coasts-cinderella-run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 http://www.nfl.com/videos/auto/0ap2000000152809/Cosell-rates-Nassib-higher-than-Geno-Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 OK, it's striking me that Cosell has an agenda here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 OK, it's striking me that Cosell has an agenda here. ??? What agenda would that be??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 OK, it's striking me that Cosell has an agenda here. Yes, you're right, he's just trying to piss you, BuffaloedPA, Ryan L Billz and 1Bills fan off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Adam Schein throwing more fuel on the fire. Hey... just sayin http://www.nfl.com/n...-cinderella-run The Jewish connection ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Yes, you're right, he's just trying to piss you, BuffaloedPA, Ryan L Billz and 1Bills fan off. ??? What agenda would that be??? Not in the least. Given that there are few people beating the Nassib drum and conventional wisdom saying that Smith is the top prospect, it'll be some cachet for Cosell to be right here, and it'll probably be forgotten by most (see Mayock re: Newton and Gabbert) if he's wrong. I don't think he's racist or anything like that if you think that's what I'm insinuating. I simply think he is trying to stir the pot and get hits like most sports journalists out there, and going against the grain does that for you. We'll see, won't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Not in the least. Given that there are few people beating the Nassib drum and conventional wisdom saying that Smith is the top prospect, it'll be some cachet for Cosell to be right here, and it'll probably be forgotten by most (see Mayock re: Newton and Gabbert) if he's wrong. I don't think he's racist or anything like that if you think that's what I'm insinuating. I simply think he is trying to stir the pot and get hits like most sports journalists out there, and going against the grain does that for you. We'll see, won't we? Except everything he said about Smith has been said before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 (edited) The Jewish connection ? No, the Syracuse connection. http://en.wikipedia....iki/Adam_Schein Nassib is going to be drafted by the Bills imo. Brandon too has huge Syracuse roots and is on some sort of committee with Marrone. I have no idea at all if Nassib is any good. NONE, and I cannot stress this enough. But imo, he would be more likely to sell tickets than any other player the Bills could draft. There is little to no doubt that the Bills will suck this season. Nix is a proven failure, Marrone is an unproven coach, and Brandon is a marketing specialist, who is capable of banning cigarette smoking in designated areas, but hasn't a clue about football. Of the three, only Marrone has a chance to be good, but I wouldn't bet on it. I hold out against hope that Nassib can play. If it works, it will be what this franchise needs. Edited March 27, 2013 by Bill from NYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Not in the least. Given that there are few people beating the Nassib drum and conventional wisdom saying that Smith is the top prospect, it'll be some cachet for Cosell to be right here, and it'll probably be forgotten by most (see Mayock re: Newton and Gabbert) if he's wrong. I don't think he's racist or anything like that if you think that's what I'm insinuating. I simply think he is trying to stir the pot and get hits like most sports journalists out there, and going against the grain does that for you. We'll see, won't we? Russ Lande, another very respected draft guy, thinks the same of Nassib. Cosell isn't the only one. The fact is, none of them stand out, so it's not surprising that different guys would have different hierarchies. Geno seems to be "best of the worst" by the most people, and it makes sense, considering his size, arm and production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 No, the Syracuse connection. http://en.wikipedia....iki/Adam_Schein Nassib is going to be drafted by the Bills imo. Brandon too has huge Syracuse roots and is on some sort of committee with Marrone. I have no idea at all if Nassib is any good. NONE, and I cannot stress this enough. But imo, he would be more likely to sell tickets than any other player the Bills could draft. There is little to no doubt that the Bills will suck this season. Nix is a proven failure, Marrone is an unproven coach, and Brandon is a marketing specialist, who is capable of banning cigarette smoking in designated areas, but hasn't a clue about football. Of the three, only Marrone has a chance to be good, but I wouldn't bet on it. I hold out against hope that Nassib can play. If it works, it will be what this franchise needs. I dont agree. I have argued that Marrone and Hackett know Ryan better than anyone else could hope to. Or want to possibly. I think they will wish him well before the draft. They might take him > depending on on how pick 41 is shaping up in the second round or if they can trade picks in their favor. But i expect Nix Marrone Hackett Whaley have identified more than one QB they could coach up. And the FO in general sees those players in the second or potentially late first. The whole Syracuse Bills thing stopped with Hackett i bet and will go no further. well maybe Pugh Many good points gentlemen. Nassib is all over the road in mocks now. I mean from 8 to the fourth round, Thats not a good sign for confidence level in general in regard to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Trooth Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Russ Lande, another very respected draft guy, thinks the same of Nassib. Cosell isn't the only one. The fact is, none of them stand out, so it's not surprising that different guys would have different hierarchies. Geno seems to be "best of the worst" by the most people, and it makes sense, considering his size, arm and production. I think it's the fallout from the Matt BarkleyPinup Fan Boy club. Their sexy qb didn't do a damn thing in his pro day help himself in is much ballhooed Pro Day and quiet the dowbters so they're takin it out on the unsexy non pinup guy that is slow and played in a dome... I mean Nassib never played a damn game outside or in cold weather. Those games at Yankee Stadium in January and the Missouri game in November never happened. I recall a certain QB by the name of McNabb that played in a dome... and Batman had Robin (Marvin Harrison). McNabb turned out to be an OK NFL QB... even started in a SB (something no USC QB ever did). Nassib broke most of McNabb's passing records... and Batman had no Robin thi time... but, he made everyone around him better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 No, the Syracuse connection. http://en.wikipedia....iki/Adam_Schein Nassib is going to be drafted by the Bills imo. Brandon too has huge Syracuse roots and is on some sort of committee with Marrone. I have no idea at all if Nassib is any good. NONE, and I cannot stress this enough. But imo, he would be more likely to sell tickets than any other player the Bills could draft. Bill, I continue to disbelieve that drafting Nassib would cause anyone to buy tickets. Most Bills fans who post here don't even want to draft the guy and many Syracuse fans who post here don't seem very enthralled with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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