C.Biscuit97 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Count me in as someone who believes that Vick is not NEARLY as bad as what is being portrayed right now. Lots of people here think Vick is garbage and that is fine, I do not. Should get interesting at least..... http://profootballta...m-vick-to-nick/ Honestly, Fitz is a better QB than Vick at this point. Fitz is just hated here and hasn't been on a Madden cover. Vick has been good in about 30 games in his career. Teams adjust to him really easy. I'm sick of other teams' trash. Let's just do whatever we can to get a legit 1st round talent and not settle for a Losman type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Count me in as someone who believes that Vick is not NEARLY as bad as what is being portrayed right now. Lots of people here think Vick is garbage and that is fine, I do not. Should get interesting at least..... http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/29/report-eagles-likely-to-change-from-vick-to-nick/ honestly, i feel like vick is atleast as good as fitz, but hes definitely a sinking ship right now. not one id be trying to board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 Honestly, Fitz is a better QB than Vick at this point. Fitz is just hated here and hasn't been on a Madden cover. Vick has been good in about 30 games in his career. Teams adjust to him really easy. I'm sick of other teams' trash. Let's just do whatever we can to get a legit 1st round talent and not settle for a Losman type. That is why the number one goal is to still draft that QB in Round 1. Getting Vick is just step one..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 That is why the number one goal is to still draft that QB in Round 1. Getting Vick is just step one..... Well since Fitz is better and cheaper (and not a reformed scumbag), why not just draft a guy and keep Fitz? Personally, vick doesn't strike me as a good QB teacher. Levi Brown said Fitz is a great teacher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 its called being proactive. If you're standing in **** up to your chin, and recognize you need change, it's a good thing. When you're so desperate that you add 6 more inches of **** to make change for the sake of making change, it's a bad thing. Sometimes doing nothing is preferable. The Mike Vick situation is one of those times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 Well since Fitz is better and cheaper (and not a reformed scumbag), why not just draft a guy and keep Fitz? Personally, vick doesn't strike me as a good QB teacher. Levi Brown said Fitz is a great teacher. I suppose the question is "would he be cheaper"? Vick has a guaranteed 40 mill starting last year. 16 of the that was paid in 2011 and he probably got similar money this year. That could leave less than 10 mill and the team that deals for Vick might even be able to work out a better deal. Fitz can be cut after the year and the Bills can be free of his money. Overall, it is probably pretty close on the money thing and I would be willing to roll the dice on Vick - that's me though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 For the record, their last 2 seasons: Vick: 59%, 27 tds, 22 ints, 9 lost fumbles, 2 rushing tds. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5448 Fitz: 61%, 39 tds, 32 ints, 4 lost fumbles, 0 rushing tds. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7426 And Vick plays with the superior offensive cast and better defense (the Eagles had a top 10 defense last year). If we trade for Vick, I might punch my dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beach Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 no thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 (edited) As far as I see it the offense on this team isn't bad. Even with Fitz. and our Oline is good when healthy. What is bad is our D. It's downright embarrassing how bad it is. Arian Foster must be creaming at the thought of going up against us next weekend. That guy is a lock to get over 150 yds and a good shot at 200. That,s how bad our D is. 90% of the focus should be on that right now. Edited October 29, 2012 by Dante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 For the record, their last 2 seasons: Vick: 59%, 27 tds, 22 ints, 9 lost fumbles, 2 rushing tds. http://sports.yahoo....fl/players/5448 Fitz: 61%, 39 tds, 32 ints, 4 lost fumbles, 0 rushing tds. http://sports.yahoo....fl/players/7426 And Vick plays with the superior offensive cast and better defense (the Eagles had a top 10 defense last year). If we trade for Vick, I might punch my dog. I am not a big fan of stats when it comes to Fitz. I see how the game unfolds with him at the helm and the percentage of passes he makes under 5 yards is not enticing to me (even if that gets him to 61%). D coordinator and QB gets this team over the hump. LBs can be sprinkled in via draft and FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Here is what I think would be a great idea. Trade for Vick, have him start next year while you let Fitz finish out this year. If Barkely and Geno Smith are gone before Buffalo picks, evaluate and see if the 3rd best guy is worth taking at the 10ish spot. If that guy is not going to be worth it, look for one in the 2nd and draft Teo. You then have Vick as a starter with the rookie learning the system for a year (or possibly 2). I am guessing Vick could be had because he will want to go somewhere with a chance to start. KC and Buffalo (possibly Jax, Jets and AZ) are the only teams who will be looking to upgrade the position. I think 2013 will be a good time to need a QB due to the least amount of teams needing a QB in a while. In summary, let Fitz finish the season, Trade for Vick (he has tons of time to learn the system), draft a QB and then that QB starts in 1-2 years. I believe by taking Vick, you don't have to have that down year when drafting a rookie. Is there one hole you can punch in this line of thought because there is no way you are going backwards with Vick over Fitz. Have you seen Vick play this year? He has been MUCH worse than Fitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Finally a thread that suggests getting both Vick and Matt Moore - I'm shocked it took this long... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 Getting back to the draft part of my post - can we assume that the Bills SHOULD be able to get one of the top 3 QBs coming out Barkley Smith Wilson Would anyone NOT be happy if they drafted on of these 3? As I mentioned, Vick is not the future here (unless he proved otherwise) but one of these 3 will be. If these are not the top 3, who are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Vick is trash, don't want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 It doesn't matter if those are the "top 3" in this draft if it's a weak quarterback class. Being the top quarterback in this years draft is alot like being the tallest midget at the Wizard of Oz casting call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 What is the obsession around here with everyone else's garbage??? news flash.... MICHEAL VICK BLOWS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb2590 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Has anybody seen how bad the eagles oline is? Dude doesn't have a second to throw on any given play. There's a reason McCoy isn't doing well on the ground this year either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBD Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 If you trade for Vick you're stuck with his brutal contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Nix won't be making any moves soon IMO. I think he's in shock, eating jello and watching Barney & Friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 If you trade for Vick you're stuck with his brutal contract. If you look at the numbers, you will see that this is not true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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