truth on hold Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 So I hear brees is on local radio in big easy yapping about how saints won't make him highest paid QB, he won't report until he gets a deal and saints should be all over him given their situation. Well I disagree and I think he's being a selfish punk. That argument can be flopped over and one can say he should sign the deal being offered because its the right thing to do for the team. This guy who everyone thinks is pure as the driven snow is trying to take advantage of the saints at a desperate time. Look at it from their perspective. This year they know will be a write off. So all that money brees wants will be wasted in 2012 Looking to 2013 when they get their coach back and some hope there'll likely be a rebuilding element. he'll be 34 at the start and 35 at playof time. This team needs money and cap space to rebuild, and with Brees demanding to be highest paid player he severely hampers their capacity. Not that I'm a saints fan, but because breeis being such a selfish ass, I hope they hold their ground and do what's economically rational and right for that team in the longer run, and make him play this season on the 1 year franchise tag. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Bress needs to hire Joe Delamielleure to be his agent. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 The best way to run a franchise is to piss off your best asset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 The best way to run a franchise is to piss off your best asset You can loss off your best asset if you knock out other teams assets. Really explains the bounty thing. They didn't,do it to win games, they did it so they didn't have to pay brees all that money! Genius! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowery4 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Good! I don't like the aint's, never did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 (edited) I have never got the all-love relationship with Brees. He's a tool, a douche, and scum. The guy got lucky someone signed him and he got the chance to play. At that time it was the Saints, a rebuilding team with weak pieces - McAllister, Bush, player 3, player 4, player 5...and maybe Kyle Turley if I remember right. What Brees is doing to this team is grabbing them in their junk and holding their hands down. The Saints cannot do anything without Brees but like pointed out above they cannot do anything with him. edit, just screw the rest of what I had - this guy is a prick. Edited May 17, 2012 by jboyst62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAWNDO Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 So I hear brees is on local radio in big easy yapping about how saints won't make him highest paid QB, he won't report until he gets a deal and saints should be all over him given their situation. Well I disagree and I think he's being a selfish punk. That argument can be flopped over and one can say he should sign the deal being offered because its the right thing to do for the team. This guy who everyone thinks is pure as the driven snow is trying to take advantage of the saints at a desperate time. Look at it from their perspective. This year they know will be a write off. So all that money brees wants will be wasted in 2012 Looking to 2013 when they get their coach back and some hope there'll likely be a rebuilding element. he'll be 34 at the start and 35 at playof time. This team needs money and cap space to rebuild, and with Brees demanding to be highest paid player he severely hampers their capacity. Not that I'm a saints fan, but because breeis being such a selfish ass, I hope they hold their ground and do what's economically rational and right for that team in the longer run, and make him play this season on the 1 year franchise tag. . That is one way to look at it. There should be some consideration to the fact that the Saints won a Superbowl and have gotten a lot better with him on the team. He was also the face of the franchise in the aftermath of Katrina and contributed time and money to assist in rebuilding NO. The Saints do need something for the fans to cheer for during the next twelve months. I would do a four year contract 18.75 million per season. That puts him slightly ahead of Brady at 18 mil and Sam Bradford at 18.4 mil. But the salary cap and the ability to rebuild is always an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Good! I don't like the aint's, never did. We could try and trade Clowney and the long snapper for his rights. But Telling Brees upfront he was competing with Brad Smith as the emergency Quarterback only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Cthulhu Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Wow a lot of haters in this thread. Nevermind he's the most prolific QB in the league the past several years. And of course the bounty scandal reflects back on him. Jesus you guys are clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Pay him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 (edited) Pay him. Why not pay him? His contract situation I doubt has anything to do with bountygate. Is ownership that pissed he lost to Alex Smith and the 49ers? Edited May 17, 2012 by Best Player Available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 He should be paid commensurate with his play. Even moreso since he's really all they have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Why not pay him? His contract situation I doubt has anything to do with bountygate. Is ownership that pissed he lost to Alex Smith and the 49ers? The debate seems to hinge somewhere along how fast he gets paid. Him wanting heavily front loaded, saints wanting it more flat. I get the hesitation, but I think it'll work out much like manning (minus the injury) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 he deserves a big pay day. he is that team. why should he just sign the deal put in front of him? if thats how every player did it the owners would be paying everyone pennies. its easy to say what a guy should do with his talent and his life. but if it were me id be doing the same thing. its a business and players often get cut and not paid when the team doesnt want them anymore and no one says the team should do the right thing and pay him. its not our money. pay the guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 He should be paid commensurate with his play. Even moreso since he's really all they have now. Exactly, and I am sure the Saints realize that. I wish some numebrs would leak out on his offering. I will be outraged when I find out that Brees was offered something like 5 yr 9mil/year and turned it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 He should be paid commensurate with his play. Even moreso since he's really all they have now. Colston, graham, sproles, Thomas, Ingram, and all pro guard jahri Evans might disagree, atleast among offensive players. Spags and numerous defenders may also object Exactly, and I am sure the Saints realize that. I wish some numebrs would leak out on his offering. I will be outraged when I find out that Brees was offered something like 5 yr 9mil/year and turned it down. Roughly the leaked numbers are an 18m average, but he wants to match manning who had 23 per the first 3 years with an 18 average over the life. Same agent, likely similar strategies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanCity Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 (edited) I have to admit to being a Brees fan, so I'm biased here. That being said, why the hell wouldn't he make more than Sam Bradford? Better player, proven player, smarter QB, team leader, community-focused. Need more be said? It might come down to the length of the term and the guaranteed money. If he is paid $18.75 million , as suggested by BRAWNDO, over the first three years, bringing him to age 37 and only a guaranteed number of $6 or $7 over the last year of the deal, it would make some sense. A 5 year with big guaranteed, however, is pretty dumb for a 35 year old qb who definitely relies on his athleticism. Edited May 17, 2012 by VanCity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Number 76 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 The guy was cut from his starting job--prematurely and stupidly, by the way--and led one of the crappiest teams in the league to a trophy; if he wants some security, I don't blame him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 That little piece of crap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Colston, graham, sproles, Thomas, Ingram, and all pro guard jahri Evans might disagree, atleast among offensive players. Spags and numerous defenders may also object Roughly the leaked numbers are an 18m average, but he wants to match manning who had 23 per the first 3 years with an 18 average over the life. Same agent, likely similar strategies. M. Williams got a good frontload. 20 million guaranteed year 1 and the same year2. Brees should get no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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