Trayvon Martin Case

[NoSaint]

Aaaaand congressman bobby rush just said on TV that its possible GZ broke his own nose before even confronting trayvon...

Edited July 19, 2013 by NoSaint

[boyst]

Aaaaand congressman bobby rush just said on TV that its possible GZ broke his own nose before even confronting trayvon...

It's possible I **** rainbows and fart skittles, too.

[boyst]

http://tampa.cbsloca...ked-by-verdict/ Sybrina Fulton speaking out against a juror, saying the woman did not know her son and he was not confrontational.

 

has this been posted?

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2013/07/16/2306901/7-mind-blowing-moments-from-zimmerman-juror-b37s-first-interview/?mobile=nc

 

On Monday night, one of the jurors in the George Zimmerman trial offered shocking insight into how the group of six women reached its decision to acquit the defendant of all charges in the murder of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

In an interview with CNN’s Anderson Cooper, Juror B37 — who initially planned to write a book about the trial — revealed that the jurors considered Florida’s Stand Your Ground law in reaching their verdict, appeared to strongly sympathize with the defendant, and felt that race played no factor in the incident. Below are Juror B37′s most surprising revelations:

1. Martin was responsible for his own death.

JUROR: It was just hard, thinking that somebody lost their life, and there’s nothing else that could be done about it. I mean, it’s what happened. It’s sad. It’s a tragedy this happened, but it happened. And I think both were responsible for the situation they had gotten themselves into. I think both of them could have walked away. It just didn’t happen.

2. Juror felt just as sorry for Zimmerman.

COOPER: Do you feel sorry for Trayvon Martin?

JUROR: I feel sorry for both of them. I feel sorry for Trayvon, in the situation he was in. And I feel sorry for George because of the situation he got himself in.

3. Zimmerman should continue to serve as a neighborhood watchman because he has learned his lesson about going too far.

COOPER: Is George Zimmerman somebody you would like to have on a neighborhood watch in your community?

JUROR: If he didn’t go too far. I mean, you can always go too far. He just didn’t stop at the limitations that he should have stopped at.

COOPER: So is that a yes or — if he didn’t go too far. Is he somebody prone, you think, to going too far? Is he somebody you would feel comfortable —

JUROR: I think he was frustrated. I think he was frustrated with the whole situation in the neighborhood, with the break-ins and the robberies. And they actually arrested somebody not that long ago. I — I mean, I would feel comfortable having George, but I think he’s learned a good lesson.

COOPER: So you would feel comfortable having him now, because you think he’s learned a lesson from all of this?

JUROR: Exactly. I think he just didn’t know when to stop. He was frustrated, and things just got out of hand.

4. Verdict hinged on “Stand Your Ground” law, even though Zimmerman did not use it in his defense.

COOPER: Because of the two options you had, second degree murder or manslaughter, you felt neither applied?

JUROR: Right. Because of the heat of the moment and the Stand Your Ground. He had a right to defend himself. If he felt threatened that his life was going to be taken away from him or he was going to have bodily harm, he had a right.

5. Zimmerman was only guilty of using poor judgment and was “egged” on to follow Martin by the 9/11 operator.

COOPER: Do you think he’s guilty of something?

JUROR: I think he’s guilty of not using good judgment. When he was in the car and he called 911, he shouldn’t have gotten out of that car. But the 911 operator also, when he was talking to him, kind of egged him on.

6. Race played absolutely no factor in Zimmerman’s profiling of Martin.

JUROR: I think just circumstances caused George to think that he might be a robber, or trying to do something bad in the neighborhood because of all that had gone on previously. There were unbelievable, a number of robberies in the neighborhood.

COOPER: So you don’t believe race played a role in this case?

JUROR: I don’t think it did. I think if there was another person, Spanish, white, Asian, if they came in the same situation where Trayvon was, I think George would have reacted the exact same way.

COOPER: Why do you think George Zimmerman found Trayvon Martin suspicious then?

JUROR: Because he was cutting through the back, it was raining. He said he was looking in houses as he was walking down the road. Kind of just not having a purpose to where he was going. He was stopping and starting. But I mean, that’s George’s rendition of it, but I think the situation where Trayvon got into him being late at night, dark at night, raining, and anybody would think anybody walking down the road stopping and turning and looking, if that’s exactly what happened, is suspicious. And George said that he didn’t recognize who he was.

COOPER: Well, was that a common belief on the jury that race was not — that race did not play a role in this?

JUROR: I think all of us thought that race did not play a role. [...]

COOPER: It didn’t come up, the question of, did George Zimmerman profile Trayvon Martin because he was African-American?

JUROR: No, I think he just profiled him because he was the neighborhood watch, and he profiled anyone who came in acting strange. I think it was just circumstances happened that he saw Trayvon at the exact time that he thought he was suspicious.

7. Zimmerman’s history of reporting black men to the police and his decision to follow Martin played no role in the verdict.

COOPER: So whether it was George Zimmerman getting out of the vehicle, whether he was right to get out of the vehicle, whether he was a wannabe cop, whether he was overeager, none of that in the final analysis, mattered. What mattered was those seconds before the shot went off, did George Zimmerman fear for his life?

JUROR: Exactly. That’s exactly what happened.

Juror B37 twice used the phrase “George said,” even though Zimmerman himself didn’t testify. Tapes of Zimmerman explaining the incident were shown in the courtroom.

I love how this story is taking shape after the trial - GZ's history of reporting black men to the police.

Edited July 19, 2013 by jboyst62

[3rdnlng]

http://tampa.cbsloca...ked-by-verdict/ Sybrina Fulton speaking out against a juror, saying the woman did not know her son and he was not confrontational.

 

Did Sybrina Fulton know her son? I'm talking about the son she kicked out of the house. BTW, where was TM's stepmom as a character witness?

[Maury Ballstein]

The stepmom was responsible for the whole thing.....she was Trayvons corner man in these street fights that he liked to start.

 

GZ belongs nowhere near a gun. Might as well quit the MMA classes also they didn't seem to help.

 

 

[meazza]

The stepmom was responsible for the whole thing.....she was Trayvons corner man in these street fights that he liked to start.

 

GZ belongs nowhere near a gun. Might as well quit the MMA classes also they didn't seem to help.

 

Those kind of classes mean **** in a real street fight.

[bbb]

Did Sybrina Fulton know her son? I'm talking about the son she kicked out of the house. BTW, where was TM's stepmom as a character witness?

 

I didn't even know until 2 days ago that he was actually living with his uncle. Sybrina didn't know **** about him.............Messed up parenting.

 

Where were any character witnesses? Where were his teachers (esp. the one who said he got all As and Bs and majored in cheerfulness.)

[boyst]

The stepmom was responsible for the whole thing.....she was Trayvons corner man in these street fights that he liked to start.

 

GZ belongs nowhere near a gun. Might as well quit the MMA classes also they didn't seem to help.

What is sad, but matters little, is that step mother and his Aunt. Both of them were said to have been the two women who spent the most time raising him. First the Aunt and then more recently the step mother.

[bbb]

And there it is in the comments section: "Thanks Scott Walker and the teapublicans for having lenient gun laws that lead to angry white men shooting and killing black teens.. "

 

Funny how dozens of black teens are murdered by other blacks every freaking day, but you'll never hear a liberal say one word about it.

 

Embarrassing times for liberals these days.

 

 

And, on the East Side of Buffalo, another black on black killing today, but this article says "Ambulance delay blamed for death"..................Yeah, not the !@#$ing bullet put into him! :

 

http://www.buffalonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130718/CITYANDREGION/130719177/1002

[boyst]

 

I didn't even know until 2 days ago that he was actually living with his uncle. Sybrina didn't know **** about him.............Messed up parenting.

 

Where were any character witnesses? Where were his teachers (esp. the one who said he got all As and Bs and majored in cheerfulness.)

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/12/17/brina-dearest-sybrina-fulton-and-tracy-martin-lie-to-cover-up-the-greatest-danger-to-black-boys-the-absence-of-two-parents/

good info on some of this

[bbb]

Yeah, that's actually where I read it two days ago..........Tipped to it by Jason Whitlock on his podcast.

[boyst]

 

 

And, on the East Side of Buffalo, another black on black killing today, but this article says "Ambulance delay blamed for death"..................Yeah, not the !@#$ing bullet put into him! :

 

http://www.buffalone.../130719177/1002

jesus h christ, read the comments under that article. I will never again believe this forum to lack civility.

[3rdnlng]

The stepmom was responsible for the whole thing.....she was Trayvons corner man in these street fights that he liked to start.

 

GZ belongs nowhere near a gun. Might as well quit the MMA classes also they didn't seem to help.

 

You are possibly a less intelligent version of dog. I hope you are proud of your status.

[NoSaint]

So I remember a narrative about how he was probably scared to call 911, you know being black and all, but now I'm hearing stories about 2 years earlier calling 911 and saving his dads life.

[DC Tom]

 

 

And, on the East Side of Buffalo, another black on black killing today, but this article says "Ambulance delay blamed for death"..................Yeah, not the !@#$ing bullet put into him! :

 

http://www.buffalone.../130719177/1002

 

Attorney General Eric Holder is set to investigate the inexcusable civil rights violation by Rural/Metro...

[Sig1Hunter]

 

I didn't even know until 2 days ago that he was actually living with his uncle. Sybrina didn't know **** about him.............Messed up parenting.

 

Where were any character witnesses? Where were his teachers (esp. the one who said he got all As and Bs and majored in cheerfulness.)

 

There weren't any character witnesses for TM because if they put them on, then that would open the door for the defense to bring in all the evidence that they had to go to his character, or lack thereof.

[3rdnlng]

Attorney General Eric Holder is set to investigate the inexcusable civil rights violation by Rural/Metro...

 

Isn't this after he clears the "Fast and Furious" and IRS scan mean finding out if George Zimmerman ever said the "N" word is more important than the killings and lack of prosecution for the NBP group and their voting suppresion efforts along with their bounty on GZ?

[bbb]

There weren't any character witnesses for TM because if they put them on, then that would open the door for the defense to bring in all the evidence that they had to go to his character, or lack thereof.

 

Got it. That says a lot.

[3rdnlng]

Got it. That says a lot.

The whole last 100 or so pages of this thread has a number of uneducated people responding. Great. They should stick around for their embarassment.

[NoSaint]

Bobby rush on fox right now- he's a mess

Edited July 19, 2013 by NoSaint