Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 hopefully we go balls out for Marrio Williams but after that there are some decent guys out there that would be upgrades as starters or over our backups. I'm not saying we should get all these guys but some would be nice: QB: Brady Quinn – DEN Shaun Hill - DET - Fiery, gutsy player looked good in SF. Rex Grossman – WAS RB Chester Taylor – ARI Peyton Hillis – CLE - change of pace, short yardage + goal line 4rth run down the clock back Michael Bush – OAK FB: Le’Ron McClain – KC - better runner than Mcintyer Owen Schmitt – PHI - better runner and receiver not quite the blocker but pretty good and would give Chan another weapon besides going 5 wide. WR: Steve Johnson – BUF Jerome Simpson – CIN - super athletic, shifty Wes Welker – NE - super productive, weakens the Pats Mario Manningham - NYG Danny Amendola – STL ® TE: Scott Chandler – BUF Greg Olsen – CAR Bear Pascoe – NYG ® OT: Levi Brown – ARI Erik Pears – BUF Ryan Diem – IND Kareem McKenzie – NYG G: Deuce Lutui – ARI Chad Rinehart – BUF Kraig Urbik – BUF ® DE: John Abraham – ATL Mario Williams – HOU Igor Olshansky – MIA - is 34 but still a beast could slide down to DT Andre Carter – NE - Had good year and pats are going back to 34 Dave Tollefson – NYG DT: Brodrick Bunkley – DEN Paul Soliai – MIA - still could use a lane clogger on the line Shaun Rogers – NO - extremely hard to handle LB: Stephen Tulloch – DET Channing Crowder – MIA E.J. Henderson – MIN Rob Ninkovich – NE - more NE weakening and makes plays Stephen Cooper – SD Na’il Diggs – SD Ahmad Brooks – SF Brady Poppinga – STL S: Tom Zbikowski – BAL Bryan Scott – BUF Gerald Sensabaugh – DAL Jim Leonhard – NYJ LaRon Landry – WAS CB: Reggie Corner – BUF Carlos Rogers – SF Cortland Finnegan – TEN nfltraderumors.co/nfltr-features/2011022012-nfl-free-agents/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 hopefully we go balls out for Marrio Williams but after that there are some decent guys out there that would be upgrades as starters or over our backups. I'm not saying we should get all these guys but some would be nice: QB: Brady Quinn – DEN Shaun Hill - DET - Fiery, gutsy player looked good in SF. Rex Grossman – WAS RB Chester Taylor – ARI Peyton Hillis – CLE - change of pace, short yardage + goal line 4rth run down the clock back Michael Bush – OAK FB: Le’Ron McClain – KC - better runner than Mcintyer Owen Schmitt – PHI - better runner and receiver not quite the blocker but pretty good and would give Chan another weapon besides going 5 wide. WR: Steve Johnson – BUF Jerome Simpson – CIN - super athletic, shifty Wes Welker – NE - super productive, weakens the Pats Mario Manningham - NYG Danny Amendola – STL ® TE: Scott Chandler – BUF Greg Olsen – CAR Bear Pascoe – NYG ® OT: Levi Brown – ARI Erik Pears – BUF Ryan Diem – IND Kareem McKenzie – NYG G: Deuce Lutui – ARI Chad Rinehart – BUF Kraig Urbik – BUF ® DE: John Abraham – ATL Mario Williams – HOU Igor Olshansky – MIA - is 34 but still a beast could slide down to DT Andre Carter – NE - Had good year and pats are going back to 34 Dave Tollefson – NYG DT: Brodrick Bunkley – DEN Paul Soliai – MIA - still could use a lane clogger on the line Shaun Rogers – NO - extremely hard to handle LB: Stephen Tulloch – DET Channing Crowder – MIA E.J. Henderson – MIN Rob Ninkovich – NE - more NE weakening and makes plays Stephen Cooper – SD Na’il Diggs – SD Ahmad Brooks – SF Brady Poppinga – STL S: Tom Zbikowski – BAL Bryan Scott – BUF Gerald Sensabaugh – DAL Jim Leonhard – NYJ LaRon Landry – WAS CB: Reggie Corner – BUF Carlos Rogers – SF Cortland Finnegan – TEN nfltraderumors.co/nfltr-features/2011022012-nfl-free-agents/ I disagree. I think we should get all these guys. If I could have one guy on this entire list, it would be Kraig Urbik. He must be re-signed pronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share Posted February 1, 2012 I disagree. I think we should get all these guys. If I could have one guy on this entire list, it would be Kraig Urbik. He must be re-signed pronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 hopefully we go balls out for Marrio Williams but after that there are some decent guys out there that would be upgrades as starters or over our backups. I'm not saying we should get all these guys but some would be nice: QB: Brady Quinn – DEN Shaun Hill - DET - Fiery, gutsy player looked good in SF. Rex Grossman – WAS RB Chester Taylor – ARI Peyton Hillis – CLE - change of pace, short yardage + goal line 4rth run down the clock back Michael Bush – OAK FB: Le’Ron McClain – KC - better runner than Mcintyer Owen Schmitt – PHI - better runner and receiver not quite the blocker but pretty good and would give Chan another weapon besides going 5 wide. WR: Steve Johnson – BUF Jerome Simpson – CIN - super athletic, shifty Wes Welker – NE - super productive, weakens the Pats Mario Manningham - NYG Danny Amendola – STL ® TE: Scott Chandler – BUF Greg Olsen – CAR Bear Pascoe – NYG ® OT: Levi Brown – ARI Erik Pears – BUF Ryan Diem – IND Kareem McKenzie – NYG G: Deuce Lutui – ARI Chad Rinehart – BUF Kraig Urbik – BUF ® DE: John Abraham – ATL Mario Williams – HOU Igor Olshansky – MIA - is 34 but still a beast could slide down to DT Andre Carter – NE - Had good year and pats are going back to 34 Dave Tollefson – NYG DT: Brodrick Bunkley – DEN Paul Soliai – MIA - still could use a lane clogger on the line Shaun Rogers – NO - extremely hard to handle LB: Stephen Tulloch – DET Channing Crowder – MIA E.J. Henderson – MIN Rob Ninkovich – NE - more NE weakening and makes plays Stephen Cooper – SD Na’il Diggs – SD Ahmad Brooks – SF Brady Poppinga – STL S: Tom Zbikowski – BAL Bryan Scott – BUF Gerald Sensabaugh – DAL Jim Leonhard – NYJ LaRon Landry – WAS CB: Reggie Corner – BUF Carlos Rogers – SF Cortland Finnegan – TEN nfltraderumors.co/nfltr-features/2011022012-nfl-free-agents/ Just my opinions: Not a lot to get excited over on that list. The Bills won't realistically be able to compete for Mario Williams. Maybe one of the QBs is a small upgrade over Thigpen, but all are career backup types and I don't think any are worth significantly more money than Thigpen. The Bills are set at RB and while Michael Bush would be nice, he'll get good money to be a starter somewhere. Welker isn't leaving NE and none of the rest of the WRs really are that good. I'd be excited to get Greg Olsen paired with Scott Chandler. The Bills have already extended Pears at OT and I don't think any of the other Ts solve the Bills' problems at LT. **Maybe** one is **slightly** better than Bell, but certainly not by much. Ugh, no help available on that list of old DEs. Certainly not for the pass rush. Carter and Olshansky are way too old for a young, hopefully up and coming team, to consider. I don't see any LBs that will help with the pass rush and most wouldn't be good enough to start and solve any problem the Bills have. I think the Bills are OK at Safety. I'd be happy with Finnegan, but I wouldn't pay Carlos Rogers anything much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Pears already signed with us Stevie should be back and Urbik needs to be resigned, losing him would be a big loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share Posted February 1, 2012 Just my opinions: Not a lot to get excited over on that list. The Bills won't realistically be able to compete for Mario Williams. Maybe one of the QBs is a small upgrade over Thigpen, but all are career backup types and I don't think any are worth significantly more money than Thigpen. The Bills are set at RB and while Michael Bush would be nice, he'll get good money to be a starter somewhere. Welker isn't leaving NE and none of the rest of the WRs really are that good. I'd be excited to get Greg Olsen paired with Scott Chandler. The Bills have already extended Pears at OT and I don't think any of the other Ts solve the Bills' problems at LT. **Maybe** one is **slightly** better than Bell, but certainly not by much. Ugh, no help available on that list of old DEs. Certainly not for the pass rush. Carter and Olshansky are way too old for a young, hopefully up and coming team, to consider. I don't see any LBs that will help with the pass rush and most wouldn't be good enough to start and solve any problem the Bills have. I think the Bills are OK at Safety. I'd be happy with Finnegan, but I wouldn't pay Carlos Rogers anything much. me either, that's why they are mid level but any of those QBs are better than thigpen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Cortland Finnegan would be nice... resign Chandler and Stevie. Pears is resigned,. Corner walks, resign Scott only if its dirt cheap. Other than that there not much improvement there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBD Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Stevie should be back and Urbik needs to be resigned, losing him would be a big loss He's restricted, nothing to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I personally would like to see us go after a TE. Martellus Bennett/Shockey//John CarlOlsonson etc. I know Chan 'doesnt like to use them' but thats just really stupid on his part. I would also think we have a better shot at signing a Kiwinuka as a DE than M Willaims, but obvoiusly I would want Williams first and foremost. Resigning Stevie and Urbik are gimmes that must happen. Adding a DE and TE in free agency then a good draft pick or two and we can compete. We will eventually have to replace Turnover Fitzpatric though eventually, and I think a guy like Quinn who never really got a chance could play if he had to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 He's restricted, nothing to worry about. O i didn't realize that. Thats perfect. He's a good player for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I would like to see us pick up John Abraham. He's getting a little long in the tooth but he's still a complete 4-3 end who can get to the QB. He would be a nice stop gap/insurance policy for a year or two while we groom/work in whoever we draft at DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBD Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I personally would like to see us go after a TE. Martellus Bennett/Shockey//John CarlOlsonson etc. I know Chan 'doesnt like to use them' but thats just really stupid on his part. I would also think we have a better shot at signing a Kiwinuka as a DE than M Willaims, but obvoiusly I would want Williams first and foremost. Resigning Stevie and Urbik are gimmes that must happen. Adding a DE and TE in free agency then a good draft pick or two and we can compete. We will eventually have to replace Turnover Fitzpatric though eventually, and I think a guy like Quinn who never really got a chance could play if he had to. Kiwanuka's not a free agent, he signed a 2 year contract last offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I personally would like to see us go after a TE. Martellus Bennett/Shockey//John CarlOlsonson etc. I know Chan 'doesnt like to use them' but thats just really stupid on his part. I would also think we have a better shot at signing a Kiwinuka as a DE than M Willaims, but obvoiusly I would want Williams first and foremost. Resigning Stevie and Urbik are gimmes that must happen. Adding a DE and TE in free agency then a good draft pick or two and we can compete. We will eventually have to replace Turnover Fitzpatric though eventually, and I think a guy like Quinn who never really got a chance could play if he had to. He used Chandler...a lot when healthy.....resign him and we have a younger, cheaper, productive TE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I still heart Owen Schmitt. Kid is perfect for this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 I personally would like to see us go after a TE. Martellus Bennett/Shockey//John CarlOlsonson etc. I know Chan 'doesnt like to use them' but thats just really stupid on his part. I would also think we have a better shot at signing a Kiwinuka as a DE than M Willaims, but obvoiusly I would want Williams first and foremost. Resigning Stevie and Urbik are gimmes that must happen. Adding a DE and TE in free agency then a good draft pick or two and we can compete. We will eventually have to replace Turnover Fitzpatric though eventually, and I think a guy like Quinn who never really got a chance could play if he had to. didn't see kiwi on the list. I still heart Owen Schmitt. Kid is perfect for this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I would like to see us pick up John Abraham. He's getting a little long in the tooth but he's still a complete 4-3 end who can get to the QB. He would be a nice stop gap/insurance policy for a year or two while we groom/work in whoever we draft at DE. not going to happen....Melvin Ingrams coming to town Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) Just my opinions: Not a lot to get excited over on that list. The Bills won't realistically be able to compete for Mario Williams. Maybe one of the QBs is a small upgrade over Thigpen, but all are career backup types and I don't think any are worth significantly more money than Thigpen. The Bills are set at RB and while Michael Bush would be nice, he'll get good money to be a starter somewhere. Welker isn't leaving NE and none of the rest of the WRs really are that good. I'd be excited to get Greg Olsen paired with Scott Chandler. The Bills have already extended Pears at OT and I don't think any of the other Ts solve the Bills' problems at LT. **Maybe** one is **slightly** better than Bell, but certainly not by much. Ugh, no help available on that list of old DEs. Certainly not for the pass rush. Carter and Olshansky are way too old for a young, hopefully up and coming team, to consider. I don't see any LBs that will help with the pass rush and most wouldn't be good enough to start and solve any problem the Bills have. I think the Bills are OK at Safety. I'd be happy with Finnegan, but I wouldn't pay Carlos Rogers anything much. I agree with everything you said. Would love Olsen paired with Chandler. I would also not mind Jerome Simpson along with Stevie. He's got good size, speed and potential. Edited February 2, 2012 by Maddog69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno Smith's Arm Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I would like to see us pick up John Abraham. He's getting a little long in the tooth but he's still a complete 4-3 end who can get to the QB. He would be a nice stop gap/insurance policy for a year or two while we groom/work in whoever we draft at DE. Sounds like Marcus Stroud all over again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Sounds like Marcus Stroud all over again... Trading for a DT vs signing a free agent end that is down to like 20 snaps a game hopefully we go balls out for Marrio Williams but after that there are some decent guys out there that would be upgrades as starters or over our backups. I'm not saying we should get all these guys but some would be nice: QB: Brady Quinn – DEN Shaun Hill - DET - Fiery, gutsy player looked good in SF. Rex Grossman – WAS RB Chester Taylor – ARI Peyton Hillis – CLE - change of pace, short yardage + goal line 4rth run down the clock back Michael Bush – OAK FB: Le’Ron McClain – KC - better runner than Mcintyer Owen Schmitt – PHI - better runner and receiver not quite the blocker but pretty good and would give Chan another weapon besides going 5 wide. WR: Steve Johnson – BUF Jerome Simpson – CIN - super athletic, shifty Wes Welker – NE - super productive, weakens the Pats Mario Manningham - NYG Danny Amendola – STL ® TE: Scott Chandler – BUF Greg Olsen – CAR Bear Pascoe – NYG ® OT: Levi Brown – ARI Erik Pears – BUF Ryan Diem – IND Kareem McKenzie – NYG G: Deuce Lutui – ARI Chad Rinehart – BUF Kraig Urbik – BUF ® DE: John Abraham – ATL Mario Williams – HOU Igor Olshansky – MIA - is 34 but still a beast could slide down to DT Andre Carter – NE - Had good year and pats are going back to 34 Dave Tollefson – NYG DT: Brodrick Bunkley – DEN Paul Soliai – MIA - still could use a lane clogger on the line Shaun Rogers – NO - extremely hard to handle LB: Stephen Tulloch – DET Channing Crowder – MIA E.J. Henderson – MIN Rob Ninkovich – NE - more NE weakening and makes plays Stephen Cooper – SD Na’il Diggs – SD Ahmad Brooks – SF Brady Poppinga – STL S: Tom Zbikowski – BAL Bryan Scott – BUF Gerald Sensabaugh – DAL Jim Leonhard – NYJ LaRon Landry – WAS CB: Reggie Corner – BUF Carlos Rogers – SF Cortland Finnegan – TEN nfltraderumors.co/nfltr-features/2011022012-nfl-free-agents/ No offense but that was really just too all over the place to really give feedback on. Guys from totally different schemes, roles, values just bunched together in a list. In some position groups it's a probowler with a fight to make the roster guy, or both 34 and 43 guys, gun slinger in Rex paired with a checkdown thrower in Quinn.... Just hard to take the list on for a real discussion for parts of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Trading for a DT vs signing a free agent end that is down to like 20 snaps a game No offense but that was really just too all over the place to really give feedback on. Guys from totally different schemes, roles, values just bunched together in a list. In some position groups it's a probowler with a fight to make the roster guy, or both 34 and 43 guys, gun slinger in Rex paired with a checkdown thrower in Quinn.... Just hard to take the list on for a real discussion for parts of it. Unfortunately, this is one of a number of posts in which people have just copy-pasted lists from websites. Taking the time to compile a quality list is worth it, and avoids the errors that people will spend most of the time in their posts responding to. The inclusion of SJ and Welker as "mid-level" free agents, for example, or the inclusion of already-extended Pears, make it hard to see what one is getting at. I wouldn't be surprised if a few of these players have re-signed with their teams, as Pears has with us. That being said, Williams isn't coming here. There are numerous good teams with money to spend (Cincy and Atlanta for example) that Williams could get the big contract he's looking for from if he doesn't re-sign with Houston. Buffalo has a shot at guys like Cliff Avril, though, and Vincent Jackson on the other side of the ball; those are the types of players we should be thinking about. Avril just said that he wouldn't be happy about a franchise tag, and I think he leaves Detroit for a big contract somewhere else. Buffalo has a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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