NEBuffaloBillsFan Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/09000d5d8257eefc/Sound-FX-Marcell-Dareus?module=HP11_content_stream Edited December 29, 2011 by NEBuffaloBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjmac Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Even more so when we get Kyle Williams back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEBuffaloBillsFan Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 I'm also talking about his leadership qualities as well. I've mentioned on here before that there needs to be someone on the sidelines motivating these guys. I think Dareus could be that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainwampus Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/09000d5d8257eefc/Sound-FX-Marcell-Dareus?module=HP11_content_stream  I agree with Florence when he says "you can be a hall-of-famer, bro." Great player, great leader, best draft pick since...?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 I agree with Florence when he says "you can be a hall-of-famer, bro." Great player, great leader, best draft pick since...?? At around the 1:05 mark Florence was also reminding the D that they want to spread them and run it. I know this is a Marcell topic, but Florence is a player we need to keep. Not sure of his contract, but he's a pretty good CB and a team leader. Hopefully Marcell takes his words to heart. One more thing, doesn't Marcell sound a little like Charles Barkley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEBuffaloBillsFan Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 I agree with Florence when he says "you can be a hall-of-famer, bro." Great player, great leader, best draft pick since...?? Â BRUUUUUUUUUCE!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 With how he's performed on the inside, I don't see who in the right mind wouldn't put him and KW at the DT spots and just officially shift back to the 4-3 full-time, pick up a good DE and see if/how this pair + some edge help can bust up through the middle/collapse the pocket and make QBs have to scramble (one hopes) into dumb mistakes. Â The 3-4 experiment failed. Soooooo much of this team's problem is the inability to generate any kind of a pass rush against teams that have anything for an OL. Against the Iggles, there were a couple of times we blitzed eight (count 'em --- 8!) and still did not get within 5 yards of a pocket-passing Vick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 With how he's performed on the inside, I don't see who in the right mind wouldn't put him and KW at the DT spots and just officially shift back to the 4-3 full-time, pick up a good DE and see if/how this pair + some edge help can bust up through the middle/collapse the pocket and make QBs have to scramble (one hopes) into dumb mistakes. Â The 3-4 experiment failed. Soooooo much of this team's problem is the inability to generate any kind of a pass rush against teams that have anything for an OL. Against the Iggles, there were a couple of times we blitzed eight (count 'em --- 8!) and still did not get within 5 yards of a pocket-passing Vick. For a couple years before we switched to 3-4, I had been arguing that the primary benefit would be that our Offense would finally be able to practice against the defense that every team in our division was running. Getting to the playoffs starts with winning the division, and stupid JP and stupid Jauron couldnt seem to solve the 3-4 "puzzle." Â That said, I want what works best. We have about 1.5 linebackers. If you arent going to draft me several linebackers this year, then why run a 3-4?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 With how he's performed on the inside, I don't see who in the right mind wouldn't put him and KW at the DT spots and just officially shift back to the 4-3 full-time, pick up a good DE and see if/how this pair + some edge help can bust up through the middle/collapse the pocket and make QBs have to scramble (one hopes) into dumb mistakes. Â The 3-4 experiment failed. Soooooo much of this team's problem is the inability to generate any kind of a pass rush against teams that have anything for an OL. Against the Iggles, there were a couple of times we blitzed eight (count 'em --- 8!) and still did not get within 5 yards of a pocket-passing Vick. Only Greorge Edwards would do something so stupid as to move this kid and KW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 BRUUUUUUUUUCE!! Â Â Yep but he needs help around him .. primarily some LB's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEBuffaloBillsFan Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 Yep but he needs help around him .. primarily some LB's  Agreed. I'm hoping that Merriman can come back healthy and if nothing else, can mentor a high round draft pick next year. If Merriman can STAY healthy for a whole year and be a viable pass rush threat, the Bills could have a monster D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 With how he's performed on the inside, I don't see who in the right mind wouldn't put him and KW at the DT spots and just officially shift back to the 4-3 full-time, pick up a good DE and see if/how this pair + some edge help can bust up through the middle/collapse the pocket and make QBs have to scramble (one hopes) into dumb mistakes. Â The 3-4 experiment failed. Soooooo much of this team's problem is the inability to generate any kind of a pass rush against teams that have anything for an OL. Against the Iggles, there were a couple of times we blitzed eight (count 'em --- 8!) and still did not get within 5 yards of a pocket-passing Vick. Â IMO, with Carrington, Kelsay and Edwards, a 4-3 DE is a position of want, not need. Our personnel on the DLine is definitely stronger on the interior with guys like Troupe, Heard, Johnson, even this Dodson character, but on the outside, we're in a great position to find a FA then a fourth round athletic freak project-type who could turn out very similar to JPP for the GMen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 that was fun...he seems to be a leader already...he is getting double and triple teamed....he is gonna be a good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Even more so when we get Kyle Williams back. Â And i for think Merriman too !!! Healthy Williams , Merriman & Dareus ---- WATCH OUT !!!!!!!!! GO BILLS !!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjmac Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 And i for think Merriman too !!! Healthy Williams , Merriman & Dareus ---- WATCH OUT !!!!!!!!! GO BILLS !!!!!!!! Â I wish I could share your optimism concerning Merriman. I know he hasn't forgoten how to play football, but after two surgeries on the same Achilles, I'm not holding out much hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 The most impressive thing about that whole video is his discipline. On the first Tebow pick he didn't run at tebow to try and sack him. He had the opportunity. He hung back so Tebow couldn't run the ball. Â I feel bad for Dareus. He's getting double and triple teamed almost every down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 I wish I could share your optimism concerning Merriman. I know he hasn't forgoten how to play football, but after two surgeries on the same Achilles, I'm not holding out much hope. Pretty sure he only had one surgery on the achilles(this season). Last season he hurt it and was put on IR(no surgery reported that I could find). This season he said he would have surgery and that he felt lucky because he would get the surgery done before it actually tore it. He said it was a small tear ,but not a rupture like Spikes had. The surgery he had before this was for a knee injury. I think because it was a small tear and not a rupture, he'll come back strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombstone56 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 I agree with Florence when he says "you can be a hall-of-famer, bro." Great player, great leader, best draft pick since...?? Â THATS A TOUGH QUESTION.. MAYBE BEST FIRST SINCE KELLY OR BRUCE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjmac Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Pretty sure he only had one surgery on the achilles(this season). Last season he hurt it and was put on IR(no surgery reported that I could find). This season he said he would have surgery and that he felt lucky because he would get the surgery done before it actually tore it. He said it was a small tear ,but not a rupture like Spikes had. The surgery he had before this was for a knee injury. I think because it was a small tear and not a rupture, he'll come back strong. Thank you. I stand corrected. I thought he had a surgery last year, thus my extreme pessimism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I hate the Bills ! Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Merriman had his chance, he is another player that cantg stay healthy. The Bills gave him 2 seasons and he still cant preform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjmac Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Merriman had his chance, he is another player that cantg stay healthy. The Bills gave him 2 seasons and he still cant preform. Â He still gets quite a bit of money from us even if we let him go, IIRC. We should should bring him back and see if he can at least keep the seat warm until a draft pick can play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Kelsay Williams Dareus <TBD> would be a good line I'd think. Maybe Carrington or Edwards or someone can hold down the TBD spot. Or, we could draft Guyton or someone to play on the other side. Put these guys with a good coach and we might have something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 He still gets quite a bit of money from us even if we let him go, IIRC. We should should bring him back and see if he can at least keep the seat warm until a draft pick can play. Â If im reading this correctly: http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/contracts/nfl/buf/bills he'll make AT MOST $4.5 million next year, and that's IF he hits all his incentives... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACKMARINO Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Marcell singing the national anthem was hilarious, lol. Did u catch Kelsay's face?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Marcell singing the national anthem was hilarious, lol. Did u catch Kelsay's face?? Yeah. McKelvin looked at him too like he thought Dareus was joking or something. Marcel's singing was in the class of Fitz TD celebration.  I think Dareus can be as good as he wants to be.  If he shows the drive to become a better-conditioned, more explosive athlete, I think the sky's the limit.  I'm real curious why after weighing in at 319 pounds at the combine, that he is listed and plays at 340 pounds for the Bills.  I wonder whose idea it was for him to carry extra weight. While that extra weight does come in handy in some situations, IMO he'd be more effective if he carried a bit less.  Anyways, he's got great natural ability… incredible lateral movement for a man that size.   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjmac Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 If im reading this correctly: http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/contracts/nfl/buf/bills he'll make AT MOST $4.5 million next year, and that's IF he hits all his incentives... Â I think I read it differently. His base salary this year is guaranteed ($3M). Even if that's all he makes, I still think it's worth it to bring him back and see what he can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEBuffaloBillsFan Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 My favorite line comes 30 seconds into the video. He has the guys around him and he says "Let's do this for the fans". He gets it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainwampus Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 My favorite line comes 30 seconds into the video. He has the guys around him and he says "Let's do this for the fans". He gets it! Â It's great that he's a vocal leader AND leads by example. When he first started playing I felt like he was good, but probably not as good as Suh. Now, you look at what a headcase Suh is and how he prides himself on being "evil" compared to the way Dareus carries himself. I think it's clear now that Dareus is a better team player and probably just as disruptive as Suh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 I think I read it differently. His base salary this year is guaranteed ($3M). Even if that's all he makes, I still think it's worth it to bring him back and see what he can do. Â Precisely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) THATS A TOUGH QUESTION.. MAYBE BEST FIRST SINCE KELLY OR BRUCE? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U7Lqwl3Vzk Edited December 29, 2011 by FluffHead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 I think I read it differently. His base salary this year is guaranteed ($3M). Even if that's all he makes, I still think it's worth it to bring him back and see what he can do. Yep, looks like his $3M base salary for 2012 is guaranteed, so he's coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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