BEAST MODE BABY! Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 i am absolutely convinced that Troup is not going to make it in this league...it was obvious to me last year and it is obvious to me based on two home games this year. could he prove me wrong, of course, but i doubt it. I am not convinced Troup will be a bust. He may not be an all-pro right now, but he is much improved from last year. He was getting blown up a lot last year. This year, I haven't seen his leg buckle trying to re-establish leverage. Also, we'll see if things get better once the club/cast comes off. Hairston looked ok. But so did Ko Simpson at one point. We need to see a much larger body of work than one game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enemarty Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Meanwhile, Sean Cody starts for the Ravens....but..but...but Buddy walks on water!!! I agree with several posters' comments that had TBD picked instead of the Bills GM, the team would be a lot better. But Troup over Cody was one that, at the time, I agreed with Buddy. Call it the "Mike Williams disease" but selecting Troup over Cody, given the latter's issues with weight, endurance and speed at the time, set off alarm bells for me of another big Mike situation. It looks like Cody has his act together now, and perhaps he would have had be come here, but again, we don't have a Ray Lewis in the house who has a habit of getting the best out of people around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I was yelling 'Gronkowski! Gronkowski!' Chen doesnt like his TEs it seems. Lamarr Houston or B Spikes were both good and other options. O well, hes beter than Spiller. I Wanted Grony too but you know Chan and a good LT would be nice. Meanwhile, Sean Cody starts for the Ravens....but..but...but Buddy walks on water!!! Cody would have been a better choice even though he was FAT, the guy could play which should be the first criteria for drafting not quick first steps or "waterbug" moves. Cam Thomas would have been a good choice as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Id trade spiller and his contract right now for blunt hands down. We need a power back like blunt a lot more than a scat back We have Jehuu... for at least one more day. Really don't understand why they don't give him some carries, guy was a tail back his whole career until the NFL. They see 270 and say well this guy can't run must be a fullback, guess they forgot about Christian Okoye, Bettis, Natrone means, Alstott, Leron McClain (who should still be running and not blocking) Larry Kinnebrew,etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastRochBillsfan Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 What I like about the "Spiller is a bust" crowd is that they bring about debate, and are making predictions. Btw, I think that Spiller was a dumbass selection and that he will probably be a huge bust. He wasn't as stupid a pick as Maybin or omg Whitner, but close imo. I won't go into the times I was correct about Bills draft picks, but I openly admit that I thought RJ would be a fine QB, and that the Bills were right to cut ties with Pat Williams. Either way, the dialogue is a good thing, ya know? The diaologue on Spiller being a bust and he has't even started his second season is a good thing? I guess it's all a matter of opinion Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibuya Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 (edited) Troup was fine last night.. the OP is off on this one. He is a NT and he ate up space.. he got pushed back once in the 1st half on a running play.. most other times the RB had to run away from where Troup stacked the line Edited September 2, 2011 by shibuya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 To all the guys clamoring for Cody, remember, he had weight and motivation issues coming out fo college. That stuff won't be tolerated in the Ravens locker room, where they have a strong vet presence that simply does not allow the younger players to slack off, not put the team first, etc. The Bills have no such presence, so there is a very good likelihood that if Cody was on buffalo, he'd be overweight and underachieving. The way a player performs for 1 team, especially in a team sport like football, has little bearing on how he'd perform for another team. This isn't baseball. Players don't play in a vacuum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsox Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 i isolated and watched every move/play when he was on the field. he gets absolutely no push.....he's not gonna make it in this league....heck, Kellen Heard played better than Troup.....troup did make two nice plays later in the game against the third stringers, but when he was in early against the starters, he did nothing. i don't care what he did in the off season, he looks weak. the only positive thing i saw, was a technique issue change from last year, where he has stopped the bending of his left knee, which put all of his weight on his right side. he now attempts leverage in a balanced stance, but he still gets zero push. Thanks Buddy for a sucessful 2010 Draft thus far, ughh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You herd it hear last Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I wouldn't say a bust, but it doesn't look like there are any home runs. Carrington, Moats, Easley, Batten and Troup all look like possible starters/backups. Carrington, Easley or Batten may even be starting by year's end. That's not bad for their second year. I also think that Moats is being misused. I find it disturbing (in general, not to you) that when talking about that draft that you didn't even mention Spiller...what does THAT say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 The diaologue on Spiller being a bust and he has't even started his second season is a good thing? I guess it's all a matter of opinion Bill. There's two people on here who want to say that Dareus is a home run, and he hasn't even played a regular season game yet. I find it disturbing (in general, not to you) that when talking about that draft that you didn't even mention Spiller...what does THAT say? Exactly. Most of the people on here hated the pick the moment it was made, and that's when we actually thought he would be Reggie Bush at the least and Chris Johnson at the best.....We just had such bigger needs. Turns out he's not even that. What an effin waste of a pick for the hundredth year in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 This isn't baseball. Players don't play in a vacuum. Are you saying that baseball isn't a team sport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Do you get a prize for saying a player sucks first? Because I got dibs on next year's 1st rounder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted September 3, 2011 Author Share Posted September 3, 2011 Do you get a prize for saying a player sucks first? Because I got dibs on next year's 1st rounder! i think Andrew Luck will be a stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodnarb Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 (edited) I was going to reply to the earlier thread on Troup but I didn't want to elevate it. It's not worthy. It's almost entirely worthless as a discussion thread. I watched the same game and come to the complete opposite conclusion. He did a good job in this game even without the use of one hand. He pancaked a guard on two plays, made several solo tackles with good penetration, and did his job as a NT by holding up against double teams on several plays. To say after this game that "Troup is terrible", you might as well say that Merriman was terrible, too. All Merriman did was get a key stop on 3rd down and make an incredible diving TFL in the span of 6 downs. Even though he has been impressive enough in a cast, let's see what Troup can do with that cast off his hand. If you're going make a statement about a player, back it up. Cue Deep Voice... Edited September 3, 2011 by nodnarb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEPA Bills Fan Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Good post Bro!!! I'm with you on Troup. Nasty player, big and tough!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 You know Nod I thought I saw your evil twin earlier on the board......but nobody likes him.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Troup is better than Mccargo.......I see no reason to hate on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 People who bag on Troup have absolutely no idea what a Nose does in a 34 defense....they are expecting Williams type play but Troup is a different kind of player Troup is a space eater that pushes the pocket.....the question is are linebackers making plays when Troup is in the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEPA Bills Fan Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Maybe i should change my name to Captian Bill Walsh said I was the next Joe Montana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 I for one am excited to see Dareus Williams and Troup wreck some shop this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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